Friday MINORS THREAD 5/19 ... Rome loses in 18

[rico43]

FRIDAY SCOREBOARD

CLASS AAA

Durham 6, Gwinnett 1

SP: Sims 3.1 IP, 7 H, 5 ER, 2 BB, 5 K, 3 HR
Morris 1.2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 3 K
De La Cruz 2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 0 K
Peterson 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 0 K

Albies 1-5, E
Kazmar 3-5, R, SB
Adams 2-4, 2 2B, RBI
*Loney 1-4, K (DH)
*Peterson 1-2, 2B, 2 BB (1st game of '17)
Franco 0-4, 3 K (playing 1B) first AAA game

LINK (http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?gid=2017_05_19_gwiaaa_dubaaa_1&t=g_box&sid=milb)


CLASS AA

Jacksonville 5, Mississippi 4
Walk-off win for Jax

SP: Allard 5 IP, 7 H, 3 R, 1 BB, 6 K
Pfiefer 1 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 3 BB, 2 K
Phillips 2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 3 K
LP: Mader (3-2) 0.2 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 1 K

Acuna 1-4, R, BB, SB
Meneses 3-5, 2B, RBI
Moore 1-3, 2B, R
Demeritte 1-4 HR (6th), RBI, BB, 3 K
Valenzuela 2-5, 2B, 2 RBI

LINK (http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?gid=2017_05_19_msbaax_jaxaax_1&t=g_box&sid=milb)

ADVANCED CLASS A

Palm Beach 8, Florida 0

LP: Franco (0-2) 6 IP, 9 H, 3 ER, 1 BB, 1 K
Graham 1 IP, 2 H, 5 ER, 3 BB, 2 K
Santiago 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K

Riley 1-3, 2B
Davidson 2-3, 2B
Seymour 3-4, 2 E
Moss 2-3

LINK (http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?gid=2017_05_19_floafa_pbcafa_1&t=g_box&sid=milb)


CLASS A

Lexington 7, Rome 6 (18)

SP: Wentz 1.2 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 K
Caicedo 4.1 IP, 6 H, 5 ER, 0 BB, 3 K
Matos 1.2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 4 K
Davidson 2.1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 3 K
B.S. White 3 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 K
McCreery 3 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 4 K
Grullon 2 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 2 K (infielder pitching)

Ventura 1-9, 4 K
Ellison 4-8, 2B, 3B, R, 2 RBI, SB
Pache 3-8, R
Herbert 2-6, 2 R, RBI
Josephina 2-8, 3B, R, RBI
Yepez 0-8, 2 K

(top three hitters for Lexington: 1-19, 8 K)

Time of game: 5:38.

LINK (http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?gid=2017_05_19_lexafx_romafx_1&t=g_box&sid=milb)


All Times Eastern

[TheBravos]

Not too shabby of a lineup...

[zbhargrove]

After the Freeman tragedy, this is a nice set of pitcher to follow on a Friday.

[bravesguy]

How many more quality starts does it take before people start thinking Sims is a real SP prospect again?

He has been basically dominant this year. His walks are way down also.

[Enscheff]

How many more quality starts does it take before people start thinking Sims is a real SP prospect again?

He has been basically dominant this year. His walks are way down also.

Probably a lot more than 41 IP considering his track record of poor control over his previous 500+ IP.

I think he has already earned a shot at the MLB level, and probably pretty soon.

If he is still rocking a 4:1 K:BB ratio after 100 IP we can start talking about him "figuring it out".

[smootness]

How many more quality starts does it take before people start thinking Sims is a real SP prospect again?

He has been basically dominant this year. His walks are way down also.

I think he has definitely put himself back on the map, but we'll still have to wait and see. His BABIP is low this year, and his GB rate is way down, LOB rate up. So his results suggest he's had some luck. But yeah, if he keeps up the K and BB rates, he definitely becomes a real option.

[bravesguy]

So you think if he maintains this pace for 17ish starts we should start looking for him to be a top target?

That should put him in line trade deadline time

[Enscheff]

According to FG, BB rates for pitchers stabilize after 170 batters faced:

http://www.fangraphs.com/library/principles/sample-size/

Sims has faced 158 so far this year, so maybe he closer to showing true improvement than I originally gave him credit.

[bravesfanMatt]

According to FG, BB rates for pitchers stabilize after 170 batters faced:

http://www.fangraphs.com/library/principles/sample-size/

Sims has faced 158 so far this year, so maybe he closer to showing true improvement than I originally gave him credit.

despite you posi-brave spin.. I think 200 batters is something we need to see before we should completely trust him. Hard to ignore the past.

[smootness]

Btw, Touki has faced 182 batters.

[Enscheff]

despite you posi-brave spin.. I think 200 batters is something we need to see before we should completely trust him. Hard to ignore the past.

And his walk rate is only part of it. If he still has that straight as an arrow FB, he will get shelled at the MLB level.

Regardless, he's at the age now where giving him a look can't hurt anything.

[Jay212033]

Probably a lot more than 41 IP considering his track record of poor control over his previous 500+ IP.

I think he has already earned a shot at the MLB level, and probably pretty soon.

If he is still rocking a 4:1 K:BB ratio after 100 IP we can start talking about him "figuring it out".

I agree with this!

[CJ9]

Coppy on Gohara during the #AskCoppy thing on Twitter: "He was placed on 7-day DL. Going to miss one start, but we expect to him to make the next start. Precautionary w/ a special arm & person."

[bravesguy]

This is awesome.

[Deester11]

And his walk rate is only part of it. If he still has that straight as an arrow FB, he will get shelled at the MLB level.

Regardless, he's at the age now where giving him a look can't hurt anything.I feel dirty agreeing with you so much... Ha

[zbhargrove]

Coppy just said Franco is going to AAA today and they will look at both him and Loney to replace Freeman

[CJ9]

Rome Braves sports information guy is saying Wentz starts tonight. It's usually Anderson's turn in the rotation and he was previously listed as the starter. I'm going to try not to panic, but no promises.

[bravesguy]

Coppy just said Franco is going to AAA today and they will look at both him and Loney to replace Freeman

This is a pretty good option. I am glad they are doing it.

1) He is 25 and probably would never get a promotion to MLB just to fill a position.
2) If he succeeds, maybe his newly found approach could offer us a quality bench player when Freddie comes back. Better version of Jace.
3) If he fails, no sweat, we had no better options.

Truly no downside...its not like he is blocking someone.

[bravesguy]

Rome Braves sports information guy is saying Wentz starts tonight. It's usually Anderson's turn in the rotation and he was previously listed as the starter. I'm going to try not to panic, but no promises.

I'm with you, but I like both of these guys and they are both doing well so far. I'm hoping they are just extremely careful with these guys.

[bravesfanMatt]

Coppy just said Franco is going to AAA today and they will look at both him and Loney to replace Freeman

Not a fan of just adding guys to the 40 man, just to see what they have.. but I guess he is 25 and deserves a shot at some point.

[zbhargrove]

Not a fan of just adding guys to the 40 man, just to see what they have.. but I guess he is 25 and deserves a shot at some point.

I think they are just looking at both at AAA, not adding him to the 40 man. If he keeps mashing at AAA you have to see what he may have.

[bravesfanMatt]

I think they are just looking at both at AAA, not adding him to the 40 man. If he keeps mashing at AAA you have to see what he may have.

yeah... I didn't mean to imply he was being added now.. but lets say he jumps out hot for the next week. he will most certainly be brought up to the big club. at that point we have to keep him on the 40 man roster regardless of what he does after that... Again. at 25, I guess this isn't so bad... I just could see some bad things playing out here.

[CJ9]

Whoa, Alex Jackson to the DL. No injury listed.

[CJ9]

Dustin Peterson returns tonight at Gwinnett. Playing LF and hitting sixth.

[zbhargrove]

yeah... I didn't mean to imply he was being added now.. but lets say he jumps out hot for the next week. he will most certainly be brought up to the big club. at that point we have to keep him on the 40 man roster regardless of what he does after that... Again. at 25, I guess this isn't so bad... I just could see some bad things playing out here.

I guess my thing is that Loney would also have to be put on the 40... and Franco's already been a minor league free agent who's elected to stay with us. At 25, I'd rather see what he can do than see Loney in there. If he keeps hitting at AAA of course.

[bravesfanMatt]

Dustin Peterson returns tonight at Gwinnett. Playing LF and hitting sixth.

that is good. Franco/Albies/Peterson could be a good lineup.

[zbhargrove]

Whoa, Alex Jackson to the DL. No injury listed.

Coppy just answered a question about him... said he's dealing with soreness but no fracture... so not sure what body part he's talking about.

[TheBravos]

Yeah, they are kinda quiet on what the exact injury is....

[thewupk]

Yeah, they are kinda quiet on what the exact injury is....

Suckitis

[Julio3000]

It's his only regret.

[SJ24]

Anfernee Seymour is 2-2 tonight for the Fire Frogs. His average is up to .385.

Ronald Acuna is 1-1 tonight for Mississippi. Now hitting .447.

[CJ9]

Acuna single and stolen base off Jeff Locke.

[SJ24]

Acuna single and stolen base off Jeff Locke.

9th stolen base so far in AA.

He could be a .300 avg, 20 HR, and 30 SB centerfielder for the Braves. We've got a perennial All-Star on our hands, IMO.

[CJ9]

Joey Wentz just got smoked by a comebacker, looked a little bit above his knee. He was having trouble standing without assistance and ended up hobbling to the dugout with the help of a teammate.

[SJ24]

All the talk about rebuilding with pitching and our best prospects are hitters: Swanson, Albies, Maitan, and Acuna. Those 4 are untouchable, IMO.

[SJ24]

Joey Wentz just got smoked by a comebacker, looked a little bit above his knee. He was having trouble standing without assistance and ended up hobbling to the dugout with the help of a teammate.

Damn, that sucks.

[TheBravos]

Anfernee Seymour is 2-2 tonight for the Fire Frogs. His average is up to .385.

Ronald Acuna is 1-1 tonight for Mississippi. Now hitting .447.

I was told on here that Seymour was a non prospect....so sorry. 😂

[Oklahomabrave]

All the talk about rebuilding with pitching and our best prospects are hitters: Swanson, Albies, Maitan, and Acuna. Those 4 are untouchable, IMO.
Agreed except I'd say Allard is one of our top 3.

[TheBravos]

And we "hopefully" will be adding another hitter in the draft...

[rico43]

it is amazing how the fortunes have changed for the Fire Frogs. After all those 10-run outbursts, this could be the seventh straight game in which they've scored one run or less.

[CJ9]

it is amazing how the fortunes have changed for the Fire Frogs. After all those 10-run outbursts, this could be the seventh straight game in which they've scored one run or less.

Promotions have turned that into a mostly uninteresting team.

[bravesguy]

Because Acuna left...

[CJ9]

Because Acuna left...

And Gohara plus Soroka/Allard/Fried skipping the level. None of the pitching there is all that interesting to me besides Touki.

[TheBravos]

Any other news on Wentz?

[CJ9]

Any other news on Wentz?

I doubt there will be. Braves are real quiet with minor league injuries.

I'm totally guessing, but I don't see how he avoids the DL. He was struggling to put any weight on the leg.

[msstate7]

Loney 1-1
Franco 0-2, 2k

Loney is dh and Franco at 1b. That's weird to me... is Franco getting the first look to fill 1b?

[CJ9]

Demeritte inside the park homer.

[CJ9]

Meanwhile it has fallen apart for Sims. Walks aren't bad, he's just getting lit up.

[Garmel]

Lucas Sims with a bad night. He's given up a grand slam and a two run shot tonight.

[CJ9]

Dustin Peterson two-run double off the RF wall.

[TheBravos]

Lucas Sims with a bad night. He's given up a grand slam and a two run shot tonight.

Oh well...everyone has a bad start now and then. Let's see how he handles it going into his next start.

[msstate7]

Davidson 2-3, 2b, bb
Hitting .231 now

[CJ9]

Pache is 2-5 with an outfield assist, now hitting .285 this year. Eric Longenhagen said Pache was the first hitter off his preseason top 100. He's going to be a good one.

[thethe]

Dustin Peterson reminding everyone why he became a legit prospect last year. It would be nice if we could pencil him into a COF spot for the next few years.

At this point Kemp might bring in a haul if we decide to trade him.

[bravesfanMatt]

Dustin Peterson reminding everyone why he became a legit prospect last year. It would be nice if we could pencil him into a COF spot for the next few years.

At this point Kemp might bring in a haul if we decide to trade him.

Look. Even a fellow posi knows KEMvP won't get a haul. Not without kicking some cash.

[thethe]

Look. Even a fellow posi knows KEMvP won't get a haul. Not without kicking some cash.

Rather take this outside the minor league thread but happy to discuss.

[msstate7]

Look. Even a fellow posi knows KEMvP won't get a haul. Not without kicking some cash.
Then keep him.

[bravesfanMatt]

Whoa don't turn on me guys. I will go to the dark side if you push me too much.

[msstate7]

Whoa don't turn on me guys. I will go to the dark side if you push me too much.

Enscheff won't accept you bc your smart comments. You'll be an outcast

[thethe]

Whoa don't turn on me guys. I will go to the dark side if you push me too much.

Not turning on you sir. Just don't want to muddle up the minor league thread with talks about the big league roster.

[striker42]

If Kemp keeps this up we could probably find a taker for what we're paying on his contract. That would be huge as we'd be out from under the money from the Olivera catastrophe.

[TheBravos]

If Dpet does well, I would expect one of Kemp or Nick (probably Nick), to be dealt this year. Both are doing well and you stunt Dustins development as a bench peice or either keeping him too long in AAA.

[Russ2dollas]

If Kemp keeps this up we could probably find a taker for what we're paying on his contract. That would be huge as we'd be out from under the money from the Olivera catastrophe.

I agree. I think coppy considers him a long term piece. Our only hope is some al team is desperate and is willing to give up a lh pitcher

[TheBravos]

If I'm an AL team and are a DH from serious contention....you won't get much better than Kemp.

[zbhargrove]

I agree. I think coppy considers him a long term piece. Our only hope is some al team is desperate and is willing to give up a lh pitcher

LH pitcher who's been through TJ surgery

[smootness]

I was told on here that Seymour was a non prospect....so sorry. 😂

And I still believe that. Not a personal shot at him, just the way I see it. And I said it when he was hitting well over .400.

Would love to be wrong, though.

[50PoundHead]

And I still believe that. Not a personal shot at him, just the way I see it. And I said it when he was hitting well over .400.

Would love to be wrong, though.

Seymour appears to be a one-tool guy with tremendous speed and that gets overrated in the low minors. He's going to have to prove he can hit. It's possible he could develop into a decent bench guy, but I think that's his ceiling.

[Eyeman]

I hadn't really thought about trading Kemp. Our front office trading Kemp if he brought only something minor back would shock the heck out of me. But it actually is becoming more and more likely if Kemp keeps putting up this type stats since we might actually get an offer that Coppy can't pass up. Btw, this just made me also think, can Kemp play 1st base at all?

[GovClintonTyree]

I think it's time to start including Cumberland in our top 30 prospects with his .430 OBP.

14 hits, 19 walks and 13 HBP. That's gotta be tracking for a record. He's gonna be a 50-50-50 guy.