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NYCBrave
09-23-2013, 02:17 PM
Braves:

1. Jason Heyward (L) CF
2. Jordan Schafer (L) RF
3. Justin Upton (R) LF
4. Chris Johnson (R) 3B
5. Evan Gattis (R) C
6. Andrelton Simmons (R) SS
7. Joey Terdoslavich (S) 1B
8. Paul Janish (R) 2B
9. Mike Minor (R) P

Brewers:


1. Norichika Aoki (L) RF
2. Carlos Gomez (R) CF
3. Jonathan Lucroy (R) C
4. Aramis Ramirez (R) 3B
5. Khris Davis (R) LF
6. Sean Halton (R) 1B
7. Yuniesky Betancourt (R) 2B
8. Jeff Bianchi (R) SS
9. Marco Estrada (R) P

weso1
09-23-2013, 02:22 PM
Need to give Simmons some good rest these last few games, imo.

bravesnumberone
09-23-2013, 02:28 PM
I'm cool with this. We need to figure out which guys are going to be on our bench come playoff time. I'd give BJ a start tomorrow.

nsacpi
09-23-2013, 02:30 PM
Is this the first time Heyward has played center with Schafer in the lineup? Seems to be a tip-off there regarding the plan for the playoffs.

jpx7
09-23-2013, 02:44 PM
Is this the first time Heyward has played center with Schafer in the lineup? Seems to be a tip-off there regarding the plan for the playoffs.

You mean, besides the later innings yesterday? When Gonzalez pulled Gattis for defensive purposes, he kept Heyward in CF, but slid Justin to LF and inserted Schafer at RF.

graffy
09-23-2013, 02:52 PM
I'm not sure this lineup is a tip-off for anything. I believe the McCanns had a baby girl this morning, so he isn't available (at least to start).

MadduxFanII
09-23-2013, 03:05 PM
Under-appreciated aspect of this season: Justin shaking off a history of mild-to-moderate injury problems and staying in the lineup just about every day. When paired with Freeman, who's been in there every damn day after going on the DL in April, the two have provided some much-needed stability in the middle of the order.

BlackwaterPark
09-23-2013, 03:16 PM
Kinda wish Betancourt would get to start a game or two.

stpeteirish
09-23-2013, 03:27 PM
don't get Janish at 2b at all. Uggla hasn't played enough to need to be rested, and EJohnson is at least a little better than Janish, isn't he?

Really can't see any use for Janish besides late inning D and emergency SS.

bravebonebook
09-23-2013, 03:29 PM
Need to win home field advantage and build some momentum going into the playoffs. I understand McCann being out with a new baby but there should not be more than 1 regular out per game (not counting the Uggla/EJ and BJ/Schaffer platoons) until the best record is no longer at stake. These guys can rest during the play-in wildcard game.

cajunrevenge
09-23-2013, 04:41 PM
Screw home field advantage, we need to win to keep the Nats from taking the division. According to ESPN they very well could win 15 out of the next 8 games.

The Chosen One
09-23-2013, 05:27 PM
Screw home field advantage, we need to win to keep the Nats from taking the division. According to ESPN they very well could win 15 out of the next 8 games.

That's what most people don't realize. Yesterday was the hypothetical clinch celebration. Not the mathematical.

Braves1976
09-23-2013, 05:46 PM
Simmons and CJ both needed a day off, oh well maybe tomorrow. Also, it seems Fredi really is going with Garcia over Wood for playoff rotation. That is a terrible idea but nothing surprises me with Fredi anymore. A couple games doesn't make Garcia a good pitcher. Garcia also owned Nats with O's earlier this year, but stunk against most everyone else. The Nats won't be in the playoffs. This is just more of Fredi's if he's a veteran he's a better option nonsense. If that wouldn't so no way a bum like Loe is even on this team.

thethe
09-23-2013, 05:50 PM
I actually think we need wood out of the pen. I don't love the move but I don't hate it

Braves1976
09-23-2013, 05:53 PM
I actually think we need wood out of the pen. I don't love the move but I don't hate it

If we need another lefty in the pen, try Maholm there. He can probably be effective as a lefty specialist. But whatever the case Garcia shouldn't even be in the discussion. I'd go with a three man rotation before considering Garcia.

thethe
09-23-2013, 05:56 PM
Wood would dominate out of the pen and in a playoff series a relief pitcher could have more of an impact than your fourth starter. I think Garcia could give us a decent 5 innings. Its not his first rodeo.

Braves1976
09-23-2013, 06:05 PM
Wood would dominate out of the pen and in a playoff series a relief pitcher could have more of an impact than your fourth starter. I think Garcia could give us a decent 5 innings. Its not his first rodeo.

Yea, you also thought Maholm was better than Huddy etc. So excuse me if that doesn't change my view of Garcia. Plus this talk about Garcia being better for us is ignoring that he also pitched well vs Nats with O's earlier this year (pitched a great game vs them in fact). But he was still terrible against most everyone else outside of lowly Miami and a few others.

This isn't Loe's first rodeo either, I guess we should have him pitch in playoffs too.

Julio3000
09-23-2013, 06:08 PM
I'm not sure this lineup is a tip-off for anything. I believe the McCanns had a baby girl this morning, so he isn't available (at least to start).

Gosh, I thought I read somewhere that he'd been watching his diet.

Braves1976
09-23-2013, 06:19 PM
Maholm pitching against the Brewers this series isn't a good idea. I don't care if it's home or road, Maholm always gets hammered or at least loses to the Brewers. No team owns him like they do. I'd pitch Hale in his spot and move him back to first game vs Philly.

The Brewers are a good hitting team vs lefties generally speaking too.

Braves1976
09-23-2013, 06:24 PM
It's so good to see Heyward leading off again, hopefully he'll have his timing and get hot in time for playoffs.

I hope Joey T gets more starts this week since we'll need him for post-season bench. He has to be cold as ice as little as he's been starting. I'd try to get him a few starts in a row if possible. I really don't think Reed Johnson is going to be ready for playoffs. He missed a lot of time and cannot start, so hard for him to get back going in such a short term. Plus if he cannot play the field he's not as much an option.

thethe
09-23-2013, 06:28 PM
Minor really has picked a bad time to not throw his best ball. Hopefully the light clicks in the postseason.

Julio3000
09-23-2013, 06:35 PM
That's what most people don't realize. Yesterday was the hypothetical clinch celebration. Not the mathematical.

All they have to do is have Bryce Harper fly around the earth as fast as he can, in the direction opposite its rotation . . .

Braves1976
09-23-2013, 06:45 PM
Simmons looks hurt, we need to take him out. We cannot afford to lose him, he should've been given a day off tonight anyway.

stpeteirish
09-23-2013, 06:49 PM
I don't know why people think a bench guy shouldn't be expected to hit because he doesn't play regularly (Terdo). If he can't hit with sporadic AB's and isn't going to start what good is he?

bravesnumberone
09-23-2013, 06:50 PM
Damn Minor, throw the ball.

Braves1976
09-23-2013, 06:53 PM
I don't know why people think a bench guy shouldn't be expected to hit because he doesn't play regularly (Terdo). If he can't hit with sporadic AB's and isn't going to start what good is he?

Huh? Any player has to get an occasional start to stay sharp. The longer a bench player goes without starting the less effective they tend to be. This is true across the board, it isn't just Joey T.

nsacpi
09-23-2013, 06:59 PM
Minor's recent issues have mainly had to do with the first inning.

Braves1976
09-23-2013, 07:04 PM
Minor's recent issues have mainly had to do with the first inning.

Plus the Brewers hit lefties well, so I'd say he's doing good so far. He gave up a solo homer but pitch count not bad and only one run through 4 innings.

nsacpi
09-23-2013, 07:06 PM
Plus the Brewers hit lefties well, so I'd say he's doing good so far. He gave up a solo homer but pitch count not bad and only one run through 4 innings.

In his last start he gave up 3 to the Gnats in the first, then shut them out the next five.

Braves1976
09-23-2013, 07:09 PM
Halladay's fastball didn't top 83 mph before he was taken out early tonight. Bad news for him. The Machado injury for the O's was bad too. What a blow to the O's to go along with their playoff hopes going down the drain.

Braves1976
09-23-2013, 07:11 PM
In his last start he gave up 3 to the Gnats in the first, then shut them out the next five.

He's the new Huddy, that's what it is. Seriously, Huddy historically has had first inning issues at times. But if you don't get him in the first you usually don't get him at all. Hopefully that's all it is for Minor too.

stpeteirish
09-23-2013, 07:14 PM
Huh? Any player has to get an occasional start to stay sharp. The longer a bench player goes without starting the less effective they tend to be. This is true across the board, it isn't just Joey T.

No, you construct a bench with players who are useful. Either they can hit off the bench, or are primarily defensive specialists. If he can't hit off the bench, he's worthless. Plenty of guys can hit off the bench, that's why you sign them to be back ups. Redd Johnson, Hinske, guys like that.

Julio3000
09-23-2013, 07:17 PM
Chip likes the NL batting leader bunting with 2 on & nobody out in the 4th.

stpeteirish
09-23-2013, 07:17 PM
CJ's two K's tonight have been ludicrious. Swinging at crap nowhere's close.

Braves1976
09-23-2013, 07:17 PM
No, you construct a bench with players who are useful. Either they can hit off the bench, or are primarily defensive specialists. If he can't hit off the bench, he's worthless. Plenty of guys can hit off the bench, that's why you sign them to be back ups. Redd Johnson, Hinske, guys like that.

Nah, even Reed Johnson and Hinske needed an occasional start to stay sharp. If you want to debate how often they need one, that's another discussion. But to try to argue they don't need an occasional start is nonsense.

Braves1976
09-23-2013, 07:19 PM
CJ's two K's tonight have been ludicrious. Swinging at crap nowhere's close.

As I said, CJ like Simmons really need a day off. I had hoped to see them get an off day tonight. Oh well.

stpeteirish
09-23-2013, 07:19 PM
CJ's two K's tonight have been ludicrious. Swinging at crap nowhere's close.

and then there's Gattis.

bravesnumberone
09-23-2013, 07:20 PM
Need to do a better job of coming through in these situations.

Pretty freaking pitiful right there.

Braves1976
09-23-2013, 07:21 PM
The offense may be a little hung over from yesterday too. Personally, I really didn't expect us to be sharp tonight after the big day and celebration yesterday. This is also why'd I'd rested more regulars than usual that need it. Then just hope Minor pitches a gem and bench comes through.

A Bobby Cox Sunday only on Monday.

jsebe10
09-23-2013, 07:22 PM
Really bad plate discipline from Gattis, CJ, and Simmons.

jsebe10
09-23-2013, 07:22 PM
I can't but feel they are taking these games as stat padders

Braves1976
09-23-2013, 07:25 PM
Werth homers off Wainwright, a two run shot gives the Nats an early 2-0 lead.

emk418
09-23-2013, 07:27 PM
and that is why we are going to struggle to go on a run in the playoffs. 2nd and 3rd with one out and we strike out back to back.

stpeteirish
09-23-2013, 07:27 PM
Really bad plate discipline from Gattis, CJ, and Simmons.

Yeah like WTF. I don't think any of the pitches they swung at were strikes, after he walked the first two guys in the inning.

Braves1976
09-23-2013, 07:27 PM
Really bad plate discipline from Gattis, CJ, and Simmons.

I'd probably give all three a day off tomorrow, at least CJ and Simmons.

ProbationDeac
09-23-2013, 07:29 PM
Werth homers off Wainwright, a two run shot gives the Cardinals an early 2-0 lead.

Nats have early lead.

Braves1976
09-23-2013, 07:30 PM
Ouch, I thought that was an easy out off the bat but it took off.

bravesnumberone
09-23-2013, 07:30 PM
Good grief, ANOTHER home run given up.

The Chosen One
09-23-2013, 07:30 PM
Minor has not been good lately.

I'd be tempted to use Minor as the lefty in the pen during the NLDS instead of Wood and have Wood start.

Braves1976
09-23-2013, 07:30 PM
Nats have early lead.

Right I meant to type Nats there but I was rushing, lol.

striker42
09-23-2013, 07:32 PM
You can tell their hitters to a man are coming to the plate wanting to hit the ball the other way. They have a great scouting report on Minor and are up there with a purpose in mind. And the Brewers are a team playing for nothing.

Our hitters are just up there marking time. And we're fighting for homefield advantage and to get ready for the playoffs.

ProbationDeac
09-23-2013, 07:34 PM
Minor has not been good lately.

I'd be tempted to use Minor as the lefty in the pen during the NLDS instead of Wood and have Wood start.

Feels like that's get said about everyone but Freeman and Simmons lately doesn't it?

Minor hasn't been as sharp but not terrible. His ERA has been a little high this month at 4.26. We look a little hung over as a team today which is probably to be expected with the celebration yesterday. Need to start clicking as a team going into next week.

stpeteirish
09-23-2013, 07:34 PM
Minor has not been good lately.

I'd be tempted to use Minor as the lefty in the pen during the NLDS instead of Wood and have Wood start.

Tempted maybe, but you can't do it, not with him winning 13 games and anchoring the rotation all year.

striker42
09-23-2013, 07:35 PM
Feels like that's get said about everyone but Freeman and Simmons lately doesn't it?

Minor hasn't been as sharp but not terrible. His ERA has been a little high this month at 4.26. We look a little hung over as a team today which is probably to be expected with the celebration yesterday. Need to start clicking as a team going into next week.

Yeah, when Heyward went down this team kind of shut down. Now they're having trouble getting it started again. It's worrisome.

ProbationDeac
09-23-2013, 07:36 PM
Tempted maybe, but you can't do it, not with him winning 13 games and anchoring the rotation all year.

Agreed, you don't put him in the bullpen. He's a valuable starter even with a "so-so" September.

stpeteirish
09-23-2013, 07:36 PM
You can tell their hitters to a man are coming to the plate wanting to hit the ball the other way. They have a great scouting report on Minor and are up there with a purpose in mind. And the Brewers are a team playing for nothing.

Our hitters are just up there marking time. And we're fighting for homefield advantage and to get ready for the playoffs.

We talk the talk, say these games matter,but play like its a spring training game.

The Chosen One
09-23-2013, 07:37 PM
Well Joe and Chip just said Maholm or Freddy would be the 4th starter in the NLDS...

It should be Wood. :facepalm:

Good news is, Medlen is scheduled to pitch this weekend so he could pitch Game 1 on regular rest. Medlen has earned it as he's clearly been the hottest pitcher the last few weeks.

Braves1976
09-23-2013, 07:39 PM
Agreed, you don't put him in the bullpen. He's a valuable starter even with a "so-so" September.

Everyone has a so-so month, if Minor goes one more inning and no more runs. That's another quality start against a team that hits lefties well. This seems to me more overreaction by some huge Medlen fans that have never given Minor enough credit.

ProbationDeac
09-23-2013, 07:39 PM
Yeah, when Heyward went down this team kind of shut down. Now they're having trouble getting it started again. It's worrisome.

We are what we are. We strike out a lot, steaky hitting, rely on the homerun ball, and have some injuries in the pitching department. That said we've managed to win the division and we are in position to finish with the best record in the NL. All you can do is hope that things start clicking this week and we play well next week.

ProbationDeac
09-23-2013, 07:40 PM
Everyone has a so-so month, if Minor goes one more inning and no more runs. That's another quality start against a team that hits lefties well. This seems to me more overreaction by some huge Medlen fans that have never given Minor enough credit.

Agreed, that was my point above is that he hasn't been as sharp this month but hardly terrible.

stpeteirish
09-23-2013, 07:41 PM
Maybe we'll get some good pitching from those two guys since they're in essence pitching for a spot in the playoffs this week. Loser is probably done as a Brave.

I'm rooting for Freddy. Maholm can go bye bye for all I care.

striker42
09-23-2013, 07:42 PM
How many times have we seen this team dominate the regular season, build a huge lead, and then let off the gas? I just don't get it.

Braves1976
09-23-2013, 07:43 PM
Nats gave one back already, 2-1 now.

nsacpi
09-23-2013, 07:44 PM
Great catch by JHey

Braves1976
09-23-2013, 07:44 PM
How many times have we seen this team dominate the regular season, build a huge lead, and then let off the gas? I just don't get it.

Well, outside of the two streaks we've been pretty much a .500 team right? Thankfully those streaks were huge.

Great catch by Heyward there!

thethe
09-23-2013, 07:46 PM
Medlen is our game 1 starter...any questions?

striker42
09-23-2013, 07:47 PM
Well, outside of the two streaks we've been pretty much a .500 team right? Thankfully those streaks were huge.

Great catch by Heyward there!

That's most playoff teams. They go .500 when they're cold and have a few hot streaks that make them into a playoff team. The Braves this year were more extreme than most but it's not atypical.

stpeteirish
09-23-2013, 07:48 PM
[QUOTE=striker42;44564]How many times have we seen this team dominate the regular season, build a huge lead, and then let off the gas? I just don't get it.[/QUOT

Team blows hot and cold. If we go into the playoffs cold, we're toast. Its that simple. They won't win a game. Pitching is decent but they won't shut people out.

Braves1976
09-23-2013, 07:50 PM
That's most playoff teams. They go .500 when they're cold and have a few hot streaks that make them into a playoff team. The Braves this year were more extreme than most but it's not atypical.

I know, I don't think we disagree. I was just noting that.

stpeteirish
09-23-2013, 07:53 PM
Chip and Joe making it sound like the Brewers are a powerhouse team and were lucky to be hanging in there with them.

tvsportscaster
09-23-2013, 07:53 PM
I'm still very concerned about this offense. Once again they are getting carved up by a freakin mediocre pitcher. What the hell are they going to do when they actually face great pitching in the post-season.

Braves1976
09-23-2013, 07:56 PM
I am not concerned at all about how this game has gone. I expected the offense to be a bit hungover after yesterday. Now if it continues throughout this week then I will become concerned. If y'all want to be concerned about something it should be that Fredi favors Garcia over Wood to start in playoffs. That is really concerning to me!

Braves1976
09-23-2013, 08:00 PM
Uh oh, Minor gave up three runs in 7 innings. A quality start, how terrible he is!

Where's Medlen? Where's my Medlen at, bring on Medlen to save the day!

stpeteirish
09-23-2013, 08:02 PM
I'm still very concerned about this offense. Once again they are getting carved up by a freakin mediocre pitcher. What the hell are they going to do when they actually face great pitching in the post-season.

Get shut out, strike out on pitches in the dirt, pop up the first pitch, same as tonight.

The Chosen One
09-23-2013, 08:08 PM
Angel Hernandez you are a cunt.

Braves1976
09-23-2013, 08:08 PM
Are you kidding me? That's almost never called but of course it is against us.

stpeteirish
09-23-2013, 08:09 PM
should be pinch hitting for worthless Janish here

The Chosen One
09-23-2013, 08:09 PM
Fredi has the divisional championship swag to kick the dirt now.

jpack1
09-23-2013, 08:10 PM
Why can't mlb get rid of these garbage umps. They are ruining the game.

The Chosen One
09-23-2013, 08:11 PM
Uggla's had plenty of HBP's where he barely tries to move out of the way.

It's just Angel Hernandez being a see you en tee.

striker42
09-23-2013, 08:13 PM
Angel Hernandez is almost as bad as CB Bucknor. Both those guys should have been fired a LOOOOOOOONG time ago. They're the worst in the game. Why MLB ignores consistently terrible umpires is beyond me.

Braves1976
09-23-2013, 08:13 PM
I hope this isn't a playoff preview as far as umps go. We have a history of such come playoff time.

stpeteirish
09-23-2013, 08:14 PM
Fredi finally arguing like he means it, must be that first divisional title talking. Seriously, how can you not pinch hit for Janish there?

yeezus
09-23-2013, 08:14 PM
How many times have we seen this team dominate the regular season, build a huge lead, and then let off the gas? I just don't get it.

THIS team? Never.

stpeteirish
09-23-2013, 08:15 PM
Angel Hernandez is almost as bad as CB Bucknor. Both those guys should have been fired a LOOOOOOOONG time ago. They're the worst in the game. Why MLB ignores consistently terrible umpires is beyond me.

really don't get it, its not like there aren't any other umps to replace them.

Braves1976
09-23-2013, 08:18 PM
Varvaro hung one there and it go byebye. I hope the Nats help us out by winning tonight.

Braves1976
09-23-2013, 08:21 PM
A good throw gets him at second but that wasn't even close.

Braves1976
09-23-2013, 08:23 PM
Well, Simmons made a great play but the throw hit the mound. No one backed up Gattis on the play either.

That's called an error but not deserved. It reminds me of an error Simmons got saving a bad throw by Freeman, then throwing falling wide of first after doing so.

stpeteirish
09-23-2013, 08:23 PM
Yeah, seems like I say this every night but Justin is not a good defender. And now this garbage play. Wake up Varvaro.

stpeteirish
09-23-2013, 08:25 PM
Average SS doesn't get to that one, result is the same except its "unearned" this way.

Braves1976
09-23-2013, 08:30 PM
Yeah, seems like I say this every night but Justin is not a good defender. And now this garbage play. Wake up Varvaro.

He hasn't been good anywhere this year, esp. bad in left though. Historically he's been good in right as far as range and getting to balls for outs. But always been bad with the ball because his throws are rarely accurate if strong enough. But even worse he often throws to the wrong bag too. I am hoping that will change here in Atlanta over time though. I have noticed him throwing more to second than throwing home when he shouldn't lately. Though yesterday the runner almost fell so his throw to second turned out wrong too.

jsebe10
09-23-2013, 08:30 PM
They better pull their head out of their behinds and come back tomorrow and play some GD baseball.

Braves1976
09-23-2013, 08:32 PM
Average SS doesn't get to that one, result is the same except its "unearned" this way.

Yea, the best of shortstops might have more errors simply because they get to more balls others don't even go for. Simmons has such a great arm he can play really deep and get to more than anyone.

stpeteirish
09-23-2013, 08:33 PM
Schafer is another guy who has no business getting any meaningful AB's (like Janish). I though with Heyward back we wouldn't see him, but wrong again.

Fredi wrote this one off. And we played like it.

Braves1976
09-23-2013, 08:34 PM
LaRoche hit into a double play with runners on first and third to kill a Nats inning. Now Nats have blown the lead and about to fall behind it seems. A hit means two more runs for Cardinals, Carpenter is up. He struck out so stays tied for now.

Braves1976
09-23-2013, 08:40 PM
Schafer is another guy who has no business getting any meaningful AB's (like Janish). I though with Heyward back we wouldn't see him, but wrong again.

Fredi wrote this one off. And we played like it.

Since this was a stinker it's a shame we didn't rest Simmons and CJ tonight. I would've did a Bobby Cox Sunday on Monday personally. Now we'll have to rest them tomorrow.

stpeteirish
09-23-2013, 08:45 PM
at least it was quick. 2 1/2 hours is all I can take.

bravebonebook
09-23-2013, 08:51 PM
Well those good feelings from Sunday faded fast, didn't they. What a way to celebrate the championship at home.

Braves1976
09-23-2013, 08:55 PM
Cardinals on their way to beating the Nats now, so bad night all around it seems. While yesterday was good day all around. Oh well.

Cardinals beat Nats. I won't be surprised if Nats are swept by them. I just hope the Brew Crew don't sweep us, given the pitching match-ups they could.

bravesnumberone
09-23-2013, 10:54 PM
Alright we had the hangover game. Now it's time to go play some damn baseball.

The Chosen One
09-23-2013, 10:58 PM
Why do some people feel the need to explain this game as "us mailing it in" or us not caring? Last year and this year proved to me this team doesn't give up. Sometimes you just have a bad game. When we were down 10-0 to the Nationals last year and came back to win I have never been proven wrong so badly. Plenty of games this year we've been proven wrong.

Team had a bad day at the office. Just because we got shutout does not indicate we mailed it in. Sometimes you have to tip your cap. When Freddy had two good starts against Mia and Wsh im sure the other teams were saying the same thing. How are we getting held down by a washed up 8 era pitcher? Its baseball.

bravesnumberone
09-23-2013, 11:25 PM
I don't think I would classify it that way at all. Team just celebrated a division championship and had a tough night at home. The bothersome things extend beyond just this game tonight. We've struggled a lot this year at producing runs with runners on base and less than two out and relied a ton on the long ball. Thanks to some fantastic pitching, we've been able to get away with it more often than not, but we've got to produce more consistently in those situations starting next week.

As long as we could do that, I could care less about a loss to the Brewers in late September.

bravesnumberone
09-23-2013, 11:27 PM
And the night wasn't a complete downer. The Nats officially got eliminated. :cooter:

tvsportscaster
09-23-2013, 11:29 PM
And the night wasn't a complete downer. The Nats officially got eliminated. :cooter:

At the expense of losing to the Cards and having St. Louis get a game closer to us. I would have preferred Washington to win, because they weren't going anywhere anyway.

bravesnumberone
09-23-2013, 11:34 PM
At the expense of losing to the Cards and having St. Louis get a game closer to us. I would have preferred Washington to win, because they weren't going anywhere anyway.

Sorry, I'll remain happy as hell the Nats are done. If we can't hold onto homefield with all home games against the Brewers and Phillies, then that's our problem.

cajunrevenge
09-24-2013, 12:00 AM
Happy Nats elimination day everyone. I hear ESPN is flying their flags at half mast and are in a state of mourning.

bravebonebook
09-24-2013, 10:31 AM
They're not done yet! Bud Selig and the boys at ESPN still have 6 days to figure out some loophole to get them in...maybe grade tampering or illegal "pay for play"???? Maybe add 2 additional wild card teams before Sunday "for the betterment of the MLB fanbase"!

50PoundHead
09-24-2013, 10:34 AM
At the expense of losing to the Cards and having St. Louis get a game closer to us. I would have preferred Washington to win, because they weren't going anywhere anyway.

True, but by the same token we shouldn't go out and put in a half-hearted attempt against the Brewers.

Glad the Nats are out of the running. There's just something about that team (maybe it's the hard core fan base) that rubs me the wrong way.

cajunrevenge
09-24-2013, 04:48 PM
For me its the media slobbering all over them that rubbed me the wrong way. They had one good year where virtually everything that could go right did. The braves have been competitve for nearly 25 years straight and its a forgone conclusion to the media that the one year wonders would win the division. There is nothing bad the nats have faced this year the braves haven't. Theres no luck involved with this.

I love that the nats fans think if anyone I ther than Davey Johnson was their manager they would have won the division. I bet they make the same excuse next year.

cajunrevenge
09-24-2013, 05:07 PM
For me its the media slobbering all over them that rubbed me the wrong way. They had one good year where virtually everything that could go right did. The braves have been competitve for nearly 25 years straight and its a forgone conclusion to the media that the one year wonders would win the division. There is nothing bad the nats have faced this year the braves haven't. Theres no luck involved with this.

I love that the nats fans think if anyone I ther than Davey Johnson was their manager they would have won the division. I bet they make the same excuse next year.