THURSDAY MINORS FINAL 7/20 ... Miss. wins in 12

[rico43]

THURSDAY SCOREBOARD

CLASS AAA

Indianapolis 11, Gwinnett 1

LP: Peterson (1-3) 1 IP, 7 H, 6 ER, 2 BB, 0 K
Phillips 2 IP, 3 H, 2 ER, 1 BB, 2 K
Dirks 2 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 0 K
Cruz 2 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K
Minter 1 IP, 2 H, 2 ER, 0 BB, 0 K, HR
Tuiasosopo 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 2 K

Albies 1-5, HR (8th), RBI
Acuna 1-4, 2B
L. Adams 0-4, 3 K

LINK (http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?gid=2017_07_20_indaaa_gwiaaa_1&t=g_box&sid=milb)

CLASS AA

Mississippi 5, Biloxi 4 (12)

SP: Pike 4.1 IP, 8 H, 2 ER, 3 BB, 3 K
Webb 1.2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 K
Watts 1.1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 1 K
Pheifer 2.2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 1 K
WP: Mader (5-4) 2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K

Morales 1-3, HR (1st), RBI
Curcio 1-5, 3B, 2 R
Neslony 2-5, 2 RBI
Demeritte 1-4, 3 K

LINK (http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?gid=2017_07_20_blxaax_msbaax_1&t=g_box&sid=milb)

ADVANCED CLASS A

Lakeland @ Florida (DH), ppd.

CLASS A

GAME ONE
Rome 3, Lakewood 1 (7)

WP: Weitz (5-3) 6 IP, 4 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 8 K
Kennedy (Save, 4) 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 0 K

Pache 2-3, R, RBI, SB
Martinez 2-3 (.318)
Bush 1-3, RBI

LINK (http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?gid=2017_07_20_lwdafx_romafx_1&t=g_box&sid=milb)

GAME TWO
Lakewood 2, Rome 0 (7)

LP: Rangel (1-3) 5 IP, 5 H, 2 ER, 2 BB, 3 K
Schlosser 2 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 0 K

Josephina 1-3, SB
Ventura 1-3

LINK (http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?gid=2017_07_20_lwdafx_romafx_2&t=g_box&sid=milb)


SHORT-SEASON

GCL Braves 7, GCL Phillies 5

SP: Contreras 1.2 IP, 1 H, 4 ER, 4 BB, 1 K
Julian 2.1 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 3 BB, 1 K
Jerez 2 IP, 1 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, 2 K
WP: Bacon (1-1) 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 K
Lourie 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 1 K
Sepulveda (Save, 1) 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 0 K

Soria 1-4, 2B
J.C. Encarnacion 2-4, 3B, R, 3 RBI (.384)
Severino 1-3, 2B, 2 R, 2 RBI (.339)

LINK (http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?gid=2017_07_20_phlrok_brarok_1&t=g_box&sid=milb)

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Danville 7, Greeneville 6
Walk-off win on Griffin Benson 2-run 1B
5 straight runs over final 3 innings!

SP: Muller 5 IP, 6 H, 4 ER, 1 BB, 1 K, 2 HR
Hyssong 0.1 IP, 2 H, 2 ER, 2 BB, 1 K
Rice 2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 0 K
WP: Weisenberg (1-1) 1.2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 0 K

Michel 3-3, 2B, R, 2 BB (.390)
Lugbauer 2-5, 2 HR (6th,7th), 3 RBI
Shumpert 1-4, 2B, 2 RBI
Cruz 3-5
Waters 1-4, R, BB, 3 K
Maitan 1-5, 2 K
Griffin 1-4, 2 RBI

LINK (http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?gid=2017_07_20_gvlrok_dnvrok_1&t=g_box&sid=milb)

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DSL Braves 7, DSL Athletics 5

WP: Santos (2-0) 2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 4 K
J. Diaz (Save, 1) 2 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 2 K

Negret 1-4, R, 2 RBI
Blanco 1-3, R, 2 RBI
Reyes 1-3, RBI

LINK (http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?gid=2017_07_20_datrok_dbrrok_1&t=g_box&sid=milb)


All Times Eastern

[Tapate50]

Pretty good slate of arms today.

[smootness]

It's time to start talking about just how much power potential Acuna might have. I feel like he has often been talked about as being sort of a 20 HR guy in the future, but I think it's clear he has blown past that in terms of ceiling at this point. He's shown the ability to consistently produce 110+ mph exit velocity, and that is pretty scary from a 19-year-old with room still to fill out some and add strength. He's no Aaron Judge, but his bat speed is elite.

Compare him to Yoan Moncada, who has always been seen as a guy with potentially huge power but is still getting there. He's now 22 and is not showing quite the level of power than Acuna is. I think the common sentiment has been that Acuna is positioned to be a worse-fielding, better-hitting version of Robles or a better-fielding, worse-hitting version of Jimenez. But I'm not so sure we can rule out him having a similar offensive ceiling to Jimenez at this point.

Also, Albies' .150 ISO in AAA at 20 is not getting enough attention, either. For a guy always considered to have elite bat-to-ball skills but very little power, he's showing that he may be able to put up some pretty nice pop for a MIF.

[bravesfanMatt]

Bacon has been crisp his last two GCL appearances.

[smootness]

Also, what kind of chance does Acuna have at the Minor League POY? Bo Bichette and Carter Kieboom have strong cases, but they've both been in A-ball all year. I think Soroka could have a shot as well.

[Super]

Also, what kind of chance does Acuna have at the Minor League POY? Bo Bichette and Carter Kieboom have strong cases, but they've both been in A-ball all year. I think Soroka could have a shot as well.

Kieboom has only played in 29 games. I don't think he has a shot. I think Vlad Jr. has a chance.

[smootness]

Kieboom has only played in 29 games. I don't think he has a shot. I think Vlad Jr. has a chance.

Yeah, good call on that. I didn't realize Kieboom had played so little.

I looked at Vlad Jr., but to me if you're going to consider him, then Bichette sticks out as clearly having a better year. May still not be quite the prospect Vlad is, but his year has definitely been better.

[50PoundHead]

Bacon has been crisp his last two GCL appearances.

Bacon gave up 4 runs in 1/3 of an inning in his debut and since then hasn't allowed a baserunner in two innings over two appearances (striking out 4 in the process).

[bravesfanMatt]

Bacon gave up 4 runs in 1/3 of an inning in his debut and since then hasn't allowed a baserunner in two innings over two appearances (striking out 4 in the process).

He has render his opposition helpless..

[Super]

Yeah, good call on that. I didn't realize Kieboom had played so little.

I looked at Vlad Jr., but to me if you're going to consider him, then Bichette sticks out as clearly having a better year. May still not be quite the prospect Vlad is, but his year has definitely been better.

Bichette has had the better seaosn, but Jr is getting a ton of hype and he has the name.

[jpx7]

Bichette has had the better seaosn, but Jr is getting a ton of hype and he has the name.

Not a Dante Bichette fan, I see?

[50PoundHead]

He has render his opposition helpless..

I'd say Bacon is sizzlin'.

[msstate7]

Bacon and Riley will both pan out and be really good players. I know they will bc they both signed with miss state. I'll always wonder if they could've helped us win a natty

[smootness]

Bacon and Riley will both pan out and be really good players. I know they will bc they both signed with miss state. I'll always wonder if they could've helped us win a natty

Having Riley at 3B this year would have been real nice.

[CJ9]

Aaron Blair was the starter for tonight's game, but he was just scratched and now it's a reliever. Maybe nothing, maybe something.

[Julio3000]

Maybe surrender to the inevitable.

[msstate7]

Wentz...
6.0 ip 4 h 1 r 1 bb 8 k
Season era now 2.65

Pache 2-3, SB (21)

[thethe]

Wentz...
6.0 ip 4 h 1 r 1 bb 8 k
Season era now 2.65

Pache 2-3, SB (21)

There is still another wave of pitching after allard/Soroka/Wright/Gohara/Sims. It's a good thing.

[depley]

Aaron Blair was the starter for tonight's game, but he was just scratched and now it's a reliever. Maybe nothing, maybe something.

talk of Garcia and Twins.. but Blair? he is the last guy I would bring up

[thethe]

talk of Garcia and Twins.. but Blair? he is the last guy I would bring up

Whose turn is it in the rotattoo tomorrow? Because those two are the only options. Next start will be the time you call up the one you think is most ready for a shot.

[Southcack77]

Having Riley at 3B this year would have been real nice.

Smootness as in Fred Smoot, then?

[Southcack77]

Interesting that they have not promoted Severino yet. Is that a positional conflict with Maitan or someone else at Danville, do you think?

[thethe]

Albies with a leadoff homer. This increase in power has change his profile dramatically.

[Enscheff]

Albies with a leadoff homer. This increase in power has change his profile dramatically.

Yeah, but it was only a solo shot. Not enough to get him back into the Top 50.

[CJ9]

Interesting that they have not promoted Severino yet. Is that a positional conflict with Maitan or someone else at Danville, do you think?

He needs to get the strikeouts down before I'd move him up. Jean Carlos Encarnacion is the one that needs to get moved up.

[UNCBlue012]

Albies has been amazing for a while now. He's just such a pure hitter. DO NOT TRADE HIM, COPPY

[Deester11]

Yeah, but it was only a solo shot. Not enough to get him back into the Top 50.
Funny. I've watched him since Rome and said he's easily a top 20 prospect and people dropped him for the dumbest reasons. That solo shot only moved him to 51 En....

[smootness]

Smootness as in Fred Smoot, then?

Oh heck yes.

[CJ9]

Another two Ks in his first three at bats for Drew Waters tonight.

[thethe]

Lugbauer hits 2HR tonight. Having a nice start to his professional career.

[Ozzie Swanson]

So are we ready to admit that Acuna was promoted too early since he is striking out at a ridiculous rate at AAA?

[CJ9]

Minter getting crushed again in Gwinnett, ERA is over 10 now.

[jpx7]

So are we ready to admit that Acuna was promoted too early since he is striking out at a ridiculous rate at AAA?

The collective impatience seemingly displayed by the powers-that-be is something to watch.

[Enscheff]

So are we ready to admit that Acuna was promoted too early since he is striking out at a ridiculous rate at AAA?

Some of us were ready to admit that weeks ago.

[smootness]

So are we ready to admit that Acuna was promoted too early since he is striking out at a ridiculous rate at AAA?

Wut

[smootness]

Haha you guys are so ready to pounce you don't even check to see if he's right. Acuna came into tonight K'ing at 20%, and is still at 26% after a 3 K night.

[bravesfanMatt]

Haha you guys are so ready to pounce you don't even check to see if he's right. Acuna came into tonight K'ing at 20%, and is still at 26% after a 3 K night.

Send him to Danville.

[Enscheff]

Haha you guys are so ready to pounce you don't even check to see if he's right. Acuna came into tonight K'ing at 20%, and is still at 26% after a 3 K night.

I don't need to see his K rate in AAA to know the Braves are rushing him.

[bravesfanMatt]

I don't need to see his K rate in AAA to know the Braves are rushing him.

I don't think rushing him to AAA is near as detrimental as rushing him to the majors and then benching him when he eventually struggles. I hope he struggles a bit more then learns how to battle through it.. which he can do in AAA just fine.

[Enscheff]

I don't think rushing him to AAA is near as detrimental as rushing him to the majors and then benching him when he eventually struggles. I hope he struggles a bit more then learns how to battle through it.. which he can do in AAA just fine.

If anyone thinks the FO is going to stop rushing him just because he's in AAA...they haven't been paying attention.

[bravesfanMatt]

If anyone thinks the FO is going to stop rushing him just because he's in AAA...they haven't been paying attention.

One can hope

[smootness]

If anyone thinks the FO is going to stop rushing him just because he's in AAA...they haven't been paying attention.

They stopped 'rushing' Albies when he got to AAA. And Dansby never even saw AAA. They've treated everyone differently, though with an overall aggressive approach.

[Enscheff]

They stopped 'rushing' Albies when he got to AAA. And Dansby never even saw AAA. They've treated everyone differently, though with an overall aggressive approach.

Bet you $1 Albies is in Atlanta this season, despite the current log jam on the infield that has their former top prospect riding the pine.

[smootness]

Bet you $1 Albies is in Atlanta this season, despite the current log jam on the infield that has their former top prospect riding the pine.

Even if so, he's still spent an entire year in AAA.

[Tapate50]

Wentz not getting enough love.

Top 100 guy for me pretty easily.

[thethe]

Wentz not getting enough love.

Top 100 guy for me pretty easily.

One of the primary reasons Anderson was drafted. He's been great.

[50PoundHead]

Lugbauer now tied for the lead in HRs in the Appalachian League. Strikes out quite a bit, but it seems when he hits it, it stays hit. They've played him at C, 1B and 3B. Hope he can cut down the Ks and find a position.

[Super]

One of the primary reasons Anderson was drafted. He's been great.

Think he starts next season at AA?

[Super]

Whose turn is it in the rotattoo tomorrow?

I like the idea of calling a rotation a "rotato" (pronounced like potato)

[50PoundHead]

Think he starts next season at AA?

They've been much more cautious with the 2016 draftees then they were with Soroka. Wentz has averaged less than 5 innings per start and they may not want to have him leapfrog High A. Of course, they jumped Allard aggressively, so I may be dead wrong in my assessment. Wentz has been solid.

[bravesguy]

They've been much more cautious with the 2016 draftees then they were with Soroka. Wentz has averaged less than 5 innings per start and they may not want to have him leapfrog High A. Of course, they jumped Allard aggressively, so I may be dead wrong in my assessment. Wentz has been solid.

I think he and Wilson could go to AA but he has had different health issues (dead arm) so they want him to gain strength without setbacks. I don't think it will matter which league he is in but likely on a pitch count in any of them.

[Super]

They've been much more cautious with the 2016 draftees then they were with Soroka. Wentz has averaged less than 5 innings per start and they may not want to have him leapfrog High A. Of course, they jumped Allard aggressively, so I may be dead wrong in my assessment. Wentz has been solid.

True. I think the injury thing for Wentz will be what keeps him out of AA next season, at least at the beginning. Very encouraging season regardless.

[zbhargrove]

Not sure we can say Acuna was rushed. He's already showing flashes of brilliance at AAA. It all depends on the adjustments he makes regarding K's. It's kinda early and he reduced his rate at Miss really quickly after adjusting.

[zbhargrove]

Wentz and Wilson both need to be top 10 prospects in the system.

[zbhargrove]

Lugbauer now tied for the lead in HRs in the Appalachian League. Strikes out quite a bit, but it seems when he hits it, it stays hit. They've played him at C, 1B and 3B. Hope he can cut down the Ks and find a position.

Was curious why he fell. His raw power in college was impressive. Guess it's the K tendencies. All or nothing type guy at the moment.

[thethe]

Think he starts next season at AA?

I don't see why not. He's been every bit as good as allard/soroka were in Rome and is slightly older at the same time.

[thethe]

Wentz and Wilson both need to be top 10 prospects in the system.

Hard to say who drops. So many deserving candidates.

[zbhargrove]

Hard to say who drops. So many deserving candidates.

They both need to be above Pache and Anderson for one

[Super]

They both need to be above Pache and Anderson for one

Anderson's stuff is quite a bit better than Wilson's.

[thethe]

They both need to be above Pache and Anderson for one

The reports on Andersons stuff has been elite though. Not sure we should be quick to displace him.

[zbhargrove]

Anderson's stuff is quite a bit better than Wilson's.

You need to read some updated scouting reports.

[zbhargrove]

The reports on Andersons stuff has been elite though. Not sure we should be quick to displace him.

He needs to be able to pitch faster than 88 mph. He has good stuff but Wilson's stuff has taken a giant leap forward in a number of scouts eyes. He's this years Soroka. Has a ton of effective pitches.

[striker42]

Wentz > Anderson

[zbhargrove]

Wentz > Anderson

Wentz>Wilson>Anderson

[Tapate50]

He needs to be able to pitch faster than 88 mph. He has good stuff but Wilson's stuff has taken a giant leap forward in a number of scouts eyes. He's this years Soroka. Has a ton of effective pitches.

Ummm 88?

[nsacpi]

Ummm 88?

That's where he was at in his last start. He seems to be carrying an injury.

[bravesfanMatt]

That's where he was at in his last start. He seems to be carrying an injury.

Was that confirmed reports or still that guy on Twitter.

[Super]

You need to read some updated scouting reports.

what scouting reports have wilson's stuff better than anderson's?

[smootness]

That's where he was at in his last start. He seems to be carrying an injury.

Yeah, he is probably dealing with an injury. Hopefully nothing lasting. Regardless, why would someone use that and pretend that's what he throws? He has been 92-96, has he not?

[Tapate50]

That's where he was at in his last start. He seems to be carrying an injury.

Which is possible. But I wouldn't categorically class him as throwing 88 just because that was his last starts numbers.

Seems shortsighted.

[smootness]

Wentz and Wilson both need to be top 10 prospects in the system.

I wouldn't say that. They could be there, but I don't think it's a definite. Wilson still needs to prove he has a third pitch, I know he's made progress there but I haven't seen anyone say that his prospect status has clearly taken a leap forward.

I don't see how you could put him ahead of Anderson.

[Enscheff]

Was that confirmed reports or still that guy on Twitter.

Pretty sure he was scouting him like you do...through the radio.

[bravesfanMatt]

Pretty sure he was scouting him like you do...through the radio.

Oh, then he is probably right.

[zbhargrove]

Which is possible. But I wouldn't categorically class him as throwing 88 just because that was his last starts numbers.

Seems shortsighted.

Well it's concerning when he had a month+ layoff with no explanation. Then the next time we see him he's topping out at 88 and still no talk of injury.... Bryse Wilson has arguably been the best pitcher in the league.

[zbhargrove]

I wouldn't say that. They could be there, but I don't think it's a definite. Wilson still needs to prove he has a third pitch, I know he's made progress there but I haven't seen anyone say that his prospect status has clearly taken a leap forward.

I don't see how you could put him ahead of Anderson.

He's been better than Anderson his entire professional career thus far. Some new scouting reports on Wilson have pretty much done a 180 on him.

[zbhargrove]

Here is the latest writeup I could find. It's a fan site but it's also written by Eric Cole who is really good and knows his stuff

https://www.talkingchop.com/2017/6/30/15897038/bryse-wilson-is-quietly-becoming-one-of-atlanta-braves-best-pitching-prospects

[Super]

He's been better than Anderson his entire professional career thus far. Some new scouting reports on Wilson have pretty much done a 180 on him.

Could make the argument Anderson has been better at A-ball this year.

[jpx7]

Do the Braves have anything in Neslony? I know he's already twenty-three, and really only plays 1B and corner OF, but could he develop into a decent bench bat, or is he destined to comprise organizational filler?

[smootness]

He's been better than Anderson his entire professional career thus far. Some new scouting reports on Wilson have pretty much done a 180 on him.

Just depends on how you define 'better'. Personally, I weigh K rate more than BB rate for pitchers at the lower levels. And Anderson's scouting reports were much, much better before the season. Do you have anything but Talking Chop claiming he's significantly improved his stock? Because FG gave him a FV of 40 before the season.

[zbhargrove]

Could make the argument Anderson has been better at A-ball this year.

Other than K/9 it's not even close man

[zbhargrove]

Just depends on how you define 'better'. Personally, I weigh K rate more than BB rate for pitchers at the lower levels. And Anderson's scouting reports were much, much better before the season. Do you have anything but Talking Chop claiming he's significantly improved his stock? Because FG gave him a FV of 40 before the season.

Yes but his changeup has improved significantly since the beginning of the season. The Talking Chop article is the only article to talk about his substantial improvements during the year. And the author Eric Cole is not a homer. He's very good.

[smootness]

Yes but his changeup has improved significantly since the beginning of the season. The Talking Chop article is the only article to talk about his substantial improvements during the year. And the author Eric Cole is not a homer. He's very good.

You very well may be right, but if the only thing I have right now is from Talking Chop, I'll just wait to see what others say.

[CJ9]

I haven't read the whole thread, just saw a comment that the prospect guys at Talking Chop aren't homers and I about passed out.

[Super]

Other than K/9 it's not even close man

Anderson bests him in FIP, and his k/9 is way better.