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salmagundy
02-28-2018, 12:44 PM
Rag tag lineup


Acuna-- 8
Santana-- 9
Freddie -- 3
Flowers--2
Tucker-- 7
Swanson-- 6
Riley-- DH
Ruiz-- 5
Colon-- 4
McCarthy-- 1

Enscheff
02-28-2018, 12:55 PM
And no video. Lame.

msstate7
02-28-2018, 01:16 PM
Acuna struggling

Enscheff
02-28-2018, 01:19 PM
Acuna struggling

Really wish I could have seen his AB where he got the hit. The only ball I saw him hit hard in his 7 televised ABs was when he saw 4 straight fastballs and hit the 4th one to the warning track in CF.

Every other AB he has been completely neutralized by MLB pitch sequencing, as I predicted while watching him in the Fall Stars game.

BeanieAntics
02-28-2018, 01:23 PM
Mccarthy with 3 strikeouts in 1.1 innings so far.

thethe
02-28-2018, 01:24 PM
When are we getting a top 50 prospect for mccarthey?

msstate7
02-28-2018, 01:25 PM
Mccarthy with 3 strikeouts in 1.1 innings so far.

Our ace

msstate7
02-28-2018, 01:33 PM
Touki and allard will pitch today

thethe
02-28-2018, 01:37 PM
Touki and allard will pitch today

This makes me happy

msstate7
02-28-2018, 01:42 PM
Tucker so far this spring... .500 BA, 1.334 ops

Any chance he beats our lane Adams?

msstate7
02-28-2018, 01:44 PM
Riley flies out on 3-2 count. No K, so progress haha

Enscheff
02-28-2018, 01:44 PM
Touki and allard will pitch today

Now I REALLY wish we could see video.

msstate7
02-28-2018, 01:46 PM
McCarthy pitching a 3rd inning

UNCBlue012
02-28-2018, 01:48 PM
McCarthy looks really good so far.

msstate7
02-28-2018, 01:49 PM
McCarthy looks really good so far.

3.0 ip 1 h 0 er 0 bb 3 k

nsacpi
02-28-2018, 01:54 PM
Tucker so far this spring... .500 BA, 1.334 ops

Any chance he beats our lane Adams?

he and Adams might platoon in left until Acuna comes up

Enscheff
02-28-2018, 01:54 PM
McCarthy pitching a 3rd inning

I have an idea. Let's have the most fragile pitcher in baseball go 3 innings in his ST debut.

msstate7
02-28-2018, 01:55 PM
Acuna groundout

Enscheff
02-28-2018, 01:55 PM
he and Adams might platoon in left until Acuna comes up

Yeah, I don't think they were ever competing against each other for a job...

It's more like Lane and Santana are competing for the backup CF spot.

thethe
02-28-2018, 01:56 PM
Three innings in the first game? Sounds like auditioning to me

nsacpi
02-28-2018, 01:57 PM
McCarthy looks really good so far.

he's a good pitcher...when healthy

msstate7
02-28-2018, 01:57 PM
I have an idea. Let's have the most fragile pitcher in baseball go 3 innings in his ST debut.

Never question snit

msstate7
02-28-2018, 01:58 PM
Carle in and his pitch is out. 1-1

Enscheff
02-28-2018, 02:02 PM
he's a good pitcher...when healthy

He is a legit #3, and maybe a tick better. Obviously the problem is he can never take the mound. The only 2 seasons he has thrown 170+ innings he produced 4.4 and 2.9 fWAR.

He could very well be the Ace of the staff if he tosses 150+ innings. Or he could throw 50 innings and be replaced by Soroka in 2 months.

CyYoung31
02-28-2018, 02:04 PM
He is a legit #3, and maybe a tick better. Obviously the problem is he can never take the mound. The only 2 seasons he has thrown 170+ innings he produced 4.4 and 2.9 fWAR.

He could very well be the Ace of the staff if he tosses 150+ innings.

Sounds like he needs Leo’s throwing program.

nsacpi
02-28-2018, 02:04 PM
He is a legit #3, and maybe a tick better. Obviously the problem is he can never take the mound. The only 2 seasons he has thrown 170+ innings he produced 4.4 and 2.9 fWAR.

He could very well be the Ace of the staff if he tosses 150+ innings.

some of the injuries have been freaky...hit on the head by a line drive...hurt non throwing shoulder lifting weights

msstate7
02-28-2018, 02:04 PM
I’m gonna go out on a limb and guess carle doesn’t make the big team

Enscheff
02-28-2018, 02:06 PM
some of the injuries have been freaky...hit on the head by a line drive...hurt non throwing shoulder lifting weights

Dodge, dip, duck, dive and...dodge. If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball.

thethe
02-28-2018, 02:22 PM
Wow...Swanson got a hit

msstate7
02-28-2018, 02:26 PM
Wow...Swanson got a hit

.856 ops, boy!

nsacpi
02-28-2018, 02:36 PM
.856 ops, boy!

I suwenda

thethe
02-28-2018, 02:47 PM
Allard has certainly not impressed in game action so far

Enscheff
02-28-2018, 02:50 PM
Allard has certainly not impressed in game action so far

Biggest thing that stood out to me with Allard was how much effort goes into that 89 MPH fastball. His finish seemed to be out of control and almost violent.

Compare that to Soroka who looked like he was easily getting that 94-96 MPH sinker up there. His motion was completely under control and his finish was smooth.

After seeing Soroka, I'm starting to worry about my bet with nsacpi where I claimed Wright will be better.

msstate7
02-28-2018, 02:54 PM
Allard has certainly not impressed in game action so far

3.0 ip 0 h 0 er 3 bb 1 k

Certainly not great, but he is holding his own

msstate7
02-28-2018, 03:08 PM
Acuna with 2-rbi single. Now 2-4 today

thethe
02-28-2018, 03:09 PM
Culberson might end up being a real good pickup to solidify the bench and have some flexibility to double switch

thethe
02-28-2018, 03:10 PM
Acuna with 2-rbi single. Now 2-4 today

And now a stolen base. Can't wait till he is playing everyday at sun trust

Super
02-28-2018, 03:13 PM
if soroka is easily pumping 94-96 MPH sinkers in there, we're in for a helluva time with him.

Super
02-28-2018, 03:16 PM
there will very likely be a big adjustment period and struggles at first for acuna but he'll probably be fun to watch even with them.

salmagundy
02-28-2018, 03:19 PM
After 7 ---

Braves 4-3 on 11 hits, 0 errors, 1-9 w/RISP, 1 DBL, 6 LOB, Swanson GIDP

Acuna 2-4
Santana 3-4
Tucker 2-3
Swanson 2-3

Culberson and Colon with 1 hit each

Carle gave up all 3 Mets runs on 4 hits(1 HR), BB, in 1 IP

msstate7
02-28-2018, 03:26 PM
Apparently we won’t see touki. Radio said we would earlier, but I suppose plans changed

Enscheff
02-28-2018, 03:32 PM
Acuna with 2-rbi single. Now 2-4 today

Were they hits off MLB pitchers who were sequencing off speed pitches? Or were they hits off ST fodder that was pumping 92 mph fastballs the whole AB?

I hate not being able to watch.

Enscheff
02-28-2018, 03:35 PM
For example, Rhame is a guy who was a PTBNL in some trade.

I hope Acuna plays in the televised game tomorrow.

salmagundy
02-28-2018, 03:42 PM
Ravin in to throw the 9th

Retires 1st batter with called K, retires 2nd batter on called 3rd strike, gives up a single to RF, WP advances runner to 2nd, RBI single to RF ties the score. Gives up 2 run HR, now 6-4 Mets and I'm done.

BeanieAntics
02-28-2018, 03:45 PM
Ravin in to throw the 9th

Retires 1st batter with called K, retires 2nd batter on called 3rd strike, gives up a single to RF, WP advances runner to 2nd, RBI single to RF ties the score. Gives up 2 run HR, now 6-4 Mets and I'm done.

Hey at least Pache is going to get an at bat now!

BeanieAntics
02-28-2018, 03:47 PM
I really want to see Touki, Soroka, Acuna, Pache, and Riley tomorrow in the televised game

salmagundy
02-28-2018, 03:54 PM
In 9th -- Pache GO, Reed Ks looking, Adams Ks looking

Braves lose 6-4. 12 hits, 10 Ks, 2 BBs, 1-11 w/RISP, 8 LOB

msstate7
02-28-2018, 03:58 PM
I really want to see Touki, Soroka, Acuna, Pache, and Riley tomorrow in the televised game

Split roster games, right?

Enscheff
02-28-2018, 04:09 PM
TV game tomorrow is the one at Detroit. That means we will be seeing the ST travel squad, while the everyday players play in the home game.

Enscheff
02-28-2018, 04:11 PM
Apparently we won’t see touki. Radio said we would earlier, but I suppose plans changed

McCarthy needed 3 innings to get 21 pitches, so Touki likely was bumped to tomorrow's game at Detroit.

Tapate50
02-28-2018, 04:43 PM
I have an idea. Let's have the most fragile pitcher in baseball go 3 innings in his ST debut.

Ha. 21 pitches?

Mike Hampton would like a word on that most fragile pitcher in baseball title.

msstate7
02-28-2018, 04:52 PM
3.0 ip 0 h 0 er 3 bb 1 k

Certainly not great, but he is holding his own

I wasn’t listening/watching allard’s 2 appearances. Obviously the velocity has been discussed here a lot, but how has he looked other than that? The 3 Ks are obviously bad, but no hits looks nice... has he just been lucky with hard contact being caught or what?

Julio3000
02-28-2018, 05:07 PM
Ha. 21 pitches?

Mike Hampton would like a word on that most fragile pitcher in baseball title.

He was walking over to his computer to respond, but he pulled a hammy and is out of action for a while.

Enscheff
02-28-2018, 05:15 PM
I wasn’t listening/watching allard’s 2 appearances. Obviously the velocity has been discussed here a lot, but how has he looked other than that? The 3 Ks are obviously bad, but no hits looks nice... has he just been lucky with hard contact being caught or what?

He has also hit a batter. Allowing 4 free base runners in 3 IP is not good when you're a control LHP that throws 89.

With no video I can't say how he looked today, but here is how I described his first inning in his ST debut:

"Allard was very underwhelming, even more so than I gathered from the comments here. No control over an 89 fastball. Gave up a walk and a rocket to RF that was miraculously turned into 2 outs by a great play. Then a warning track fly ball to Gonzo to end the inning. It’s clear why he has tumbled down prospect lists."

I don't think he has done anything to excite anyone. Pure luck got him out of the first inning unscathed. That catch in RF by Avery is a play Markakis has 0% chance of making. If Gonzo hit his fly ball into the same wind that killed Acuna's fly out earlier in the week, it would have been a bomb under normal conditions.

Without the baseball gods smiling on him, Allard could have very easily given up 3+ runs in his debut.

According to the game log, here is how Allard's 2 innings went today:

Walk (den Dekker)
Line out to RF (Rosario)
Walk (Nimmo)
Fly out to CF (Lobaton)
Fly out to CF (Tebow)

HBP (Alonso)
K Swinging (Borenstein)
GIDP (Cecchini)

That's 1 out via grounder (well, 2 since it was a DP) in 3 IP. Another less than good sign for a LHP throwing 89.

The liner to RF was caught by Santana, who has great range. How great of a play was it?

Did the wind eat up those fly balls to CF too, or were they poorly hit cans of corn?

This is why I wish we had video.

nsacpi
02-28-2018, 05:29 PM
He was walking over to his computer to respond, but he pulled a hammy and is out of action for a while.

Also fractured his left pinkie (pitching hand) hitting the shift key.

nsacpi
02-28-2018, 05:30 PM
He has also hit a batter. Allowing 4 free base runners in 3 IP is not good when you're a control LHP that throws 89.

With no video I can't say how he looked today, but here is how I described his first inning in his ST debut:

"Allard was very underwhelming, even more so than I gathered from the comments here. No control over an 89 fastball. Gave up a walk and a rocket to RF that was miraculously turned into 2 outs by a great play. Then a warning track fly ball to Gonzo to end the inning. It’s clear why he has tumbled down prospect lists."

I don't think he has done anything to excite anyone. Pure luck got him out of the first inning unscathed. That catch in RF by Avery is a play Markakis has 0% chance of making. If Gonzo hit his fly ball into the same wind that killed Acuna's fly out earlier in the week, it would have been a bomb under normal conditions.

Without the baseball gods smiling on him, Allard could have very easily given up 3+ runs in his debut.

According to the game log, here is how Allard's 2 innings went today:

Walk (den Dekker)
Line out to RF (Rosario)
Walk (Nimmo)
Fly out to CF (Lobaton)
Fly out to CF (Tebow)

HBP (Alonso)
K Swinging (Borenstein)
GIDP (Cecchini)

That's 1 out via grounder (well, 2 since it was a DP) in 3 IP. Another less than good sign for a LHP throwing 89.

The liner to RF was caught by Santana, who has great range. How great of a play was it?

Did the wind eat up those fly balls to CF too?

This is why I wish we had video.

I would still rate him as one of our better pitching prospects just off what he did in AA last year as a 19 year old.

Obviously behind Soroka, Gohara and Wright. But best of the rest imo.

Enscheff
02-28-2018, 05:32 PM
I would still rate him as one of our better pitching prospects just off what he did in AA last year as a 19 year old.

Obviously behind Soroka, Gohara and Wright. But best of the rest imo.

I've always had him ranked behind those 3 guys, and I'm actually inclined to slot him behind Anderson as well. Maybe even behind Wentz.

He has looked extremely mediocre.

depley
02-28-2018, 06:05 PM
I have an idea. Let's have the most fragile pitcher in baseball go 3 innings in his ST debut.

this:

“I asked for another inning,” McCarthy said. “I hate the one, two-inning outings. Feels like you’re not getting anything accomplished. So getting a third inning was nice, to be able to get back out there after I was a little bit tired in the second. You can settle back in, get a little bit of stuff worked on.”

thewupk
02-28-2018, 06:11 PM
Allard has a chance. But with poor velocity he's going to have compensate with location, sequencing, and offspeed pitches. Not impossible but makes it that much harder.

nsacpi
02-28-2018, 06:23 PM
I believe the Braves might have an attractive option on McCarthy in 2019.

This from Cot's

conditional club option for 2019 based on days spent on disabled list with a specific injury: $5M club option with more than 179 days on DL or $8M club option with 119-179 days

He missed most of 2015 (first year of the contract) and a chunk of 2016 recovering form TJ surgery.

Enscheff
02-28-2018, 07:33 PM
I believe the Braves might have an attractive option on McCarthy in 2019.

This from Cot's

conditional club option for 2019 based on days spent on disabled list with a specific injury: $5M club option with more than 179 days on DL or $8M club option with 119-179 days

He missed most of 2015 (first year of the contract) and a chunk of 2016 recovering form TJ surgery.

The “specific injury” was a stress reaction in his right shoulder.

nsacpi
02-28-2018, 07:42 PM
The “specific injury” was a stress reaction in his right shoulder.

that was last year...the TJ is the one that cost him much more time in 2015 and 2016

Enscheff
02-28-2018, 07:47 PM
that was last year...the TJ is the one that cost him much more time in 2015 and 2016

The option only applies to the shoulder injury he had repeatedly before he signed with the Dodgers. The TJ doesn’t trigger the option clause.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.truebluela.com/platform/amp/2014/12/16/7387651/brandon-mccarthy-contract-details

Enscheff
02-28-2018, 07:49 PM
why not

Because the contract says the injury must be related to the right shoulder stress reaction.

I’m not sure there’s any other way to explain it.

nsacpi
02-28-2018, 08:03 PM
Because the contract says the injury must be related to the right shoulder stress reaction.

I’m not sure there’s any other way to explain it.

ok...got it

jpx7
02-28-2018, 08:18 PM
I have an idea. Let's have the most fragile pitcher in baseball go 3 innings in his ST debut.

Johnny Venters isn’t on the Braves anymore.

The Chosen One
02-28-2018, 09:56 PM
I have an idea. Let's have the most fragile pitcher in baseball go 3 innings in his ST debut.

Terrible idea. What are you thinking?