GDT -- 3/1/18-- split squad-- home game

[salmagundy]

Typical split squad line up for game vs Nats

Inciarte-- 8
Santana-- 7
Camargo-- 5
Markakis-- 9
Culberson-- 4
Colon--6
Ruiz-- 3
Adams-- DH
Brantly-- 2

Wisler-- throwing

[salmagundy]

Splirt Squad road game line up-- Tigers

Albies-- 4
Swanson-- 6
Acuna-- 8
Suzuki-- 2
Decker-- 9
Riley-- 5
Tucker-- 7
Peterson-- DH
Franco-- 3

Newcomb-- throwing

[msstate7]

Splirt Squad road game line up

Albies-- 4
Swanson-- 6
Acuna-- 8
Suzuki-- 2
Decker-- 9
Riley-- 5
Tucker-- 7
Peterson-- DH
Franco-- 3

Newcomb-- throwing

This is the game I will follow

[nsacpi]

no Freddie?...wonder if he has an injury

[msstate7]

no Freddie?...wonder if he has an injury

Hopefully just wanting to get Ruiz, camargo, Riley, and Franco action

[Enscheff]

Wasn't the game with the Tigers supposed to be an ESPN game?

[Julio3000]

Yikes, with Freeman out our cleanup options are Neck and Godzuki.

[nsacpi]

Yikes, with Freeman out our cleanup options are Neck and Godzuki.

even with Freeman they will bat cleanup

[msstate7]

even with Freeman they will bat cleanup

Put Swanson there. His over .750 ops will drive in some runs lol

[msstate7]

Detroit radio gushing over Albies. Said outstanding bat speed on that double

[Super]

Detroit radio gushing over Albies. Said outstanding bat speed on that double

8 WAR, 2nd in MVP voting

[msstate7]

Wisler carved up Goodwin

[msstate7]

Last outing wisler had a bunch of ground balls. Last 2 outs today were fly balls. I was hoping for more ground balls from him

[UNCBlue012]

Albies is the best.

[Enscheff]

Tucker smoked liner to RF off a LHP. He's looking better than I expected.

[Enscheff]

Let's hope Newk has his **** together today...

[msstate7]

Tucker smoked liner to RF off a LHP. He's looking better than I expected.

Detroit radio was impressed with that line drive

[Julio3000]

For anyone not able to follow:

Albies doubled and stole third, Swanson HBP, Acuña Juña popout, Godzuki SF RBI, Decker BB, Riley HBP, Tucker lineout. 1-0

[bravesfanMatt]

Hoping wiz can go three. Newk actually facing real hitters today.

[bravesfanMatt]

Any online streams today

[Enscheff]

Newk's first inning...

Rocket to 1B for an out.
Routine grounder to 1B for an out.
Sharp grounder to 2B for an out.

Seems like he has the breaking ball working and the fastball is wrangled under control just enough so far.

The first 2 hitters for Detroit never walk, so they were good match ups for Newk.

[msstate7]

Is At Bat app correct, 3-pitch inning for wisler?

[bravesfanMatt]

Is At Bat app correct, 3-pitch inning for wisler?

At bat is wrong in spring. It will one pitch for a hit or out. 4
Pitch for a walk. And three for a K

[Enscheff]

For anyone not able to follow:

Albies doubled and stole third, Swanson HBP, Acuña Juña popout, Godzuki SF RBI, Decker BB, Riley HBP, Tucker lineout. 1-0

I didn't have the feed on in time. Was it another first pitch?

[msstate7]

Lane Adams struggling

[msstate7]

What pitch was that homerun on?

[bravesfanMatt]

I didn't have the feed on in time. Was it another first pitch?

MLB Gameday? How do you see count and pitch?

[Julio3000]

I didn't have the feed on in time. Was it another first pitch?

I do not know.

[Julio3000]

MLB Gameday? How do you see count and pitch?

I think radio is the only way to know. ST Gameday is not reliable.

[msstate7]

I didn't have the feed on in time. Was it another first pitch?

Yes

[bravesfanMatt]

I wouldn’t be opposed to Newk being a AAA pitcher to start the year. He sometimes seems lazy and thinks his stuff should get folks out. He needs to deserve a spot IMO.

[Enscheff]

Newk's second inning:

Long HR to LF
Line drive HR to LF
K looking (fastball at 95 according to announcers)
Pop up to RF
K looking (announcers said the change was good and was swung on and missed, fastball on outside corner at 94)

[msstate7]

thinks his stuff should get folks out..

It should. Throw strikes, Newcomb

[bravesfanMatt]

It should. Throw strikes, Newcomb

It can. But he literally looks like he just goes up there with no plan or clue.

[Enscheff]

Acuna with a jam shot bloop over SS.

[Enscheff]

It can. But he literally looks like he just goes up there with no plan or clue.

It's not his job to have a plan. His job is to execute a plan that is given to him.

[Enscheff]

Bloop hit for Suzuki.

[Enscheff]

This LHP is throwing mid-80s. I expect Riley to own him.

[Enscheff]

He grounds out instead.

[striker42]

It can. But he literally looks like he just goes up there with no plan or clue.

A frequent problem for the ultra talented. Their natural ability allows them to succeed without having to develop good work habits. When they hit a point that their talent alone can't carry them they struggle. At this point they either develop the habits necessary for success or settle for mediocrity.

When you have ultra talent paired with extremely good work habits, you get guys like Chipper.

[bravesfanMatt]

Just saw RILEY is hitting .273. Ops.

[Enscheff]

Soroka in to pitch:

Ground out to 3B
K swinging
Ground out to 3B

No mention of velocity or anything else. Announcers talked about Mahtook leading off the whole time.

[clvclv]

Yikes, with Freeman out our cleanup options are Neck and Godzuki.

Me like.

[Enscheff]

Soroka's second inning

K looking (94 on the outside corner for strike 1 looking)
Ground out to 3B, Riley almost threw it away
Ground out to Soroka

If Soroka is really throwing that sinker at 94-96 with that easy balanced motion and that plus control...that's something to be excited about.

[Enscheff]

Swanson handles a fastball for a hit, as usual.

This Tigers pitcher is throwing nothing but heaters 93-95.

[Enscheff]

Swanson steals 2B then comes off the bag to get tagged out.

[Tapate50]

It really feels like both Acuna and Soroka might be the guys up after about 4 weeks at AAA.

[Enscheff]

Suzuki lines out. I think he's ready.

[Enscheff]

It really feels like both Acuna and Soroka might be the guys up after about 4 weeks at AAA.

I think Acuna is going to need 200+ PAs in AAA, but Soroka sure is impressive.

I'm getting more comfortable with my Derek Lowe comp for him...solid 2-3 win 190+ IP workhorse with a few 4+ win seasons sprinkled in.

[Enscheff]

Looks like Wright got knocked around pretty good by the Nats.

[Ozzie Swanson]

Riley with a long home run. Tigers announcers are raving about how far he hit it.

[msstate7]

Just saw RILEY is hitting .273. Ops.

.708 now

[nsacpi]

.708 now

God bless the small samples of spring

[bravesfanMatt]

.708 now

Mashing

[Enscheff]

Looks like Gomez and Minter both had effective outings. Wish I could have seen them.

[drewdat]

Newcomb only hitting 110 today, but it's too soon to worry since he's got all spring to get that velocity up

[buck75]

It really feels like both Acuna and Soroka might be the guys up after about 4 weeks at AAA.

Just my guesses: Acuna - in May. Soroka & Riley - probably in July.

[msstate7]

Just my guesses: Acuna - in May. Soroka & Riley - probably in July.

Unless we are a surprise this season, I think we have enough starting pitching to keep soroka down this year.

[zbhargrove]

It really feels like both Acuna and Soroka might be the guys up after about 4 weeks at AAA.

I don't know.... after this Spring so far, just not sure Acuna's ever gonna make it (sarcasm!)

[zbhargrove]

I think Acuna is going to need 200+ PAs in AAA, but Soroka sure is impressive.

I'm getting more comfortable with my Derek Lowe comp for him...solid 2-3 win 190+ IP workhorse with a few 4+ win seasons sprinkled in.

Soroka may end up being one of our best draft picks in a LONG time... they absolutely loved him when nearly everyone thought... "who the hell is this guy?"

[zbhargrove]

Looks like Wright got knocked around pretty good by the Nats.

I'm not souring on Wright or anything... but I do question how highly ranked he is when he's really done nothing. His stats last year in limited work were nothing special... not bad, but not dominating either... levels he should probably already be dominating. I definitely thinks he has all the talent and stuff.... but I really want to see it translate somewhere in the pros to get too excited. I haven't seen that yet personally. But way too early to be down on him... just think its a case where his reputation has him ranked higher than he should be at this stage.

[zbhargrove]

I'm hoping Gohara, Soroka, and Wright can be 3 studs.... and then maybe two of Newcomb/Fried/Allard/Anderson/Wentz/Wisler/Skinny Blair actually work out. Wisler has honestly impressed me a bit this spring in a very short time. He did go through the one stretch his first full MLB year where he dominated for a month or two before falling apart. He has a nice mix of stuff, just no single eye popping thing. If he can learn to pitch and keep the grounders going... he may not be done.

[Tapate50]

Soroka may end up being one of our best draft picks in a LONG time... they absolutely loved him when nearly everyone thought... "who the hell is this guy?"

Oh the bitching in here was unbelievable.

[Horsehide Harry]

Oh the bitching in here was unbelievable.

I'm willing to admit, I thought he was a reach at where they took him. I didn't have anything against him but thought he could have been had next Braves pick down. The same goes for my thoughts at the time on Riley.

I could say now that I was wrong. And I might be. BUT, we'll never know if either or both could have been picked next Braves pick down because it didn't happen that way.

I think about it like the the Raiders taking PK Sebastian Janikowski with the 17th pick in the first round of the NFL draft. He had an 18 year career with them so the pick was an obvious success. But, could they have picked him as easily in the 3rd round? Probably.

[jpx7]

Oh the bitching in here was unbelievable.

May have been primarily the Chris Reitsma connection, to be fair.

[Super]

I'm willing to admit, I thought he was a reach at where they took him. I didn't have anything against him but thought he could have been had next Braves pick down. The same goes for my thoughts at the time on Riley.

I could say now that I was wrong. And I might be. BUT, we'll never know if either or both could have been picked next Braves pick down because it didn't happen that way.

I think about it like the the Raiders taking PK Sebastian Janikowski with the 17th pick in the first round of the NFL draft. He had an 18 year career with them so the pick was an obvious success. But, could they have picked him as easily in the 3rd round? Probably.

Janikowski is a bad comparison. That was a bad pick because he was a kicker. Even taking a reliever in the 1st round isn't terrible if you're pretty sure he's going to have a long career. No one was going to take a kicker in the 1st.
Soroka may well have not been there, we'll never know. But it so far has been a great pick.

[msstate7]

Janikowski is a bad comparison. That was a bad pick because he was a kicker. Even taking a reliever in the 1st round isn't terrible if you're pretty sure he's going to have a long career. No one was going to take a kicker in the 1st.
Soroka may well have not been there, we'll never know. But it so far has been a great pick.

I like to compare him more to Tom Brady... best draft pick of all time and the GOAT

[nsacpi]

Oh the bitching in here was unbelievable.

umm...Soroka has had at least one strong advocate around here from the start

[Tapate50]

umm...Soroka has had at least one strong advocate around here from the start

During the draft thread, nearly everyone said it was a stupid pick.

Some of it was overflow from taking pitcher after pitcher, but it wasn’t a highly regarded pick at that time. Since, he has had a lot of followers. He still is likely our most underrated prospect by our fans.

[thethe]

I'm just glad that the same people running the draft 4 years ago are still here.

[nsacpi]

I'm just glad that the same people running the draft 4 years ago are still here.

we drafted very well in 2015...im less impressed with 2016 and 2017

[thethe]

we drafted very well in 2015...im less impressed with 2016 and 2017

Commenting in a draft 2 years out and less seems like a futile exercise.

[nsacpi]

Commenting in a draft 2 years out and less seems like a futile exercise.

ok...let us know when the appropriate time comes

[thethe]

ok...let us know when the appropriate time comes

How about in their second full seasons?

2016 draft has produced Anderson/Wentz/Wilson/Cumberland/Davidson/Clouse this far. Even a guy like Neslony is flying under the radar.

I'd say it's looking good but needs more time to evaluate.

[Super]

ok...let us know when the appropriate time comes

i think seeing how the players, you know, play out is probably good. we've barely gotten a look at the 2017 kids. not sure what's not to like about 2016 so far, either.

[Enscheff]

How about in their second full seasons?

2016 draft has produced Anderson/Wentz/Wilson/Cumberland/Davidson/Clouse this far. Even a guy like Neslony is flying under the radar.

I'd say it's looking good but needs more time to evaluate.

Hey, we haven't seen you list out some names to make them seem more impressive in a while!

[Enscheff]

i think seeing how the players, you know, play out is probably good. we've barely gotten a look at the 2017 kids. not sure what's not to like about 2016 so far, either.

I think it's perfectly reasonable for someone to be underwhelmed with a draft whenever they feel it is appropriate. I was against the Anderson/Wentz/Muller draft the moment it happened.

I had no problems with the Allard/Soroka draft at the time though. I saw Allard as a Top 10 talent that fell to the Braves due to injury concerns, and the Braves were taking a chance on getting a Top 10 talent with pick #14. They obviously weren't projecting him to be throwing 89 mph at 20 years old though.

I don't even pretend to know enough about draft prospects to have a real opinion on guys after the Top 10 or so.

[Super]

I think it's perfectly reasonable for someone to be underwhelmed with a draft whenever they feel it is appropriate. I was against the Anderson/Wentz/Muller draft the moment it happened.
.

Sure. But it can't be a called a success or a failure until the players play more than a year. I think the 2016 draft is looking pretty good based on results vs. feelings.

[bravesfanforlife88]

Inciarte down on strikes.

[bravesfanforlife88]

2-0 on albies, started him off on 2 bad curveballs.....fastball outside for a ball to make it 3-0

[bravesfanforlife88]

Camargo rips a double down the line...Linedrive, scores Albies, 1-0 braves

[msstate7]

Camargo rips a double down the line...Linedrive, scores Albies, 1-0 braves

Wrong thread, mane

[bravesfanforlife88]

Acuna with a tater to dead center! Crushed it

[nsacpi]

mane

southern for mate?

[msstate7]

southern for mate?

Yep