Acuna called up

[Heyward]

About time, Tucker's been trash for the last 2 weeks.

Let's get it on.

Daniel Álvarez Montes
‏@DaniAlvarez_16
Source: Ronald Acuña has been called up to the Big Leagues. #Braves.

[The Chosen One]

Now just waiting for Snitker and Hernandez fired.

[CrimsonCowboy]

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[Hawk]

LET THE NEW ERA BEGIN

[jpx7]

LET THE NEW ERA BEGIN

Dare I say, a reason to believe it's a ...

...

...

BRAVE NEW WORLD?

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[DaneHill]

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[goldfly]

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[Freshmaker]

WOOHOO

[Runnin]

Meanwhile, Tucker still leads the team with 18 rbi. His contribution thus far won't be forgotten.

[goldfly]

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/31301891_10100295381665622_4897495506197938176_n.j pg?_nc_cat=0&oh=a9bde425ece603c825db597831dc4e87&oe=5B59856C

[DaneHill]

989004823369527296

[drewdat]

Meanwhile, Tucker still leads the team with 18 rbi. His contribution thus far won't be forgotten.

Yeah, Michael Tucker was a nice player for us

[UNCBlue012]

LET’S GO, SON!

[striker42]

This should improve the lineup and the bench as Tucker is a better hitter than any of our current backups.

[GeorgiaGirl]

I'm ready to see him play regardless but I think it's pretty funny that the wait ended up being until "2 terrible losses to the Reds".

[bravesfanMatt]

He will probably walk the leadoff hitter too

[50PoundHead]

I'm ready to see him play regardless but I think it's pretty fun that the wait ended up being until "2 terrible losses to the Reds".

Can he do a mini-Otani and play OF and be a relief pitcher?

[Super]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8b/36/30/8b363088ebf6bf66b90b878f3f84d4a9.jpg

[bravesfanMatt]

What is your lineup with Acuna. What will twits be?

[bravesfanMatt]

I like
Oz. Dans. FF. Kurt. Nick. Acuna. Jo-gun. Pitcher. Ender.

Twitner.
Ender. Oz. FF. Neck. Kurt. Dans. RF. Acuna. Pitcher.

[msstate7]

What is your lineup with Acuna. What will twits be?

Me...
Albies
Swanson
FF
Suzuki
Markakis
Acuna
Ender
Camargo

Snot...
Ender
Albies
FF
Markakis
Suzuki
Swanson
Flaherty
Acuna

[Evad]

Best Rusev Day yet!

[thethe]

Super pumped but this should have happened much sooner. Hopefully we don't miss out on a WC by a game or 2.

Now lets play Camargo and use Bautista to give days off to Nick and Freddie during the year while sneaking him at third every now and again.

Call up Goahara/Soroka.

Get Flowers healthy.

Game on...

[bravesguy]

I like ender, ozzie, freddie, joey, acuna, dansdy, suzyki, marky,

[UNCBlue012]

Super pumped but this should have happened much sooner. Hopefully we don't miss out on a WC by a game or 2.

Now lets play Camargo and use Bautista to give days off to Nick and Freddie during the year while sneaking him at third every now and again.

Call up Goahara/Soroka.

Get Flowers healthy.

Game on...

I don't agree with it either, but there's absolutely no doubt Bautista is starting at third for us. Camargo will fill in and be a spot-starter.

[AerchAngel]

Now just waiting for Snitker and Hernandez fired.


I get shamed when I say this, what gives?

[Russ2dollas]

Super pumped but this should have happened much sooner. Hopefully we don't miss out on a WC by a game or 2.

Now lets play Camargo and use Bautista to give days off to Nick and Freddie during the year while sneaking him at third every now and again.

Call up Goahara/Soroka.

Get Flowers healthy.

Game on...

I am excited to see him. I'll be very excited when an extension is announced next offseason. Hopefully we can buy out some of those late twenties. Even if the last team option is a team option for 50 million, we might want to pay that in 7 years.

I still think AA did the right thing with him. I still think Tucker was a great addition for us and could be a 1 WAR starting OF with a 2 WAR ceiling. I like Tucker on the bench. I think once you play the service time game you need the young guy to be playing really well before you bring him up. And I think when you bring him up you have to be committed to him playing every day (OK with him sitting down vs a tough righty every 10 games or so if you must).

I do not understand your obsession with Comargo.
Gohara is no where near ready. Soroka is 21 and the starters have been fine. Soroka would likely be on some insane innings restriction.

upgrading the bench from Culberson, Burojas, Pena, Comargo to Flaherty/Bautista, Tucker, Flowers/Suzuki and Comargo is a HUGE improvement.

I think the pen is better than they are showing. And I think we have options in the minors. I have an irrational thought of Weigel coming up after the deadline and being an impact BP arm. I do think Minter, Winkler and Viz are good pen arms. I love Carle so far. I think BP Wisler who focuses on Slider first and FB 93+ in a short outing could be good.

It's a LONG season folks.

And if we miss the WC by a couple of games then we were 10+ games better than I thought we were.
At the beginning of the year I said I wanted:
FF to be FF and healthy
Swanson, Albies, Acuna to show that they are all 3+ WAR players and at least one to be a star
Minter healthy and high leverage
Figure out if Gohara, Folty and Newcombe are MLB starters


I think if we are that close to the WC then we've had really good years from the guys that are long term pieces that matter.

[CyYoung31]

Me...
Albies
Swanson
FF
Suzuki
Markakis
Acuna
Ender
Camargo

Snot...
Ender
Albies
FF
Markakis
Suzuki
Swanson
Flaherty
Acuna

You’re both wrong. It will be:

Ender
Albies
Freeman
Markakis
Suzuki
Tucker
Swanson
Flaherty

[salmagundy]

Does this mean we are finally rid of Bourjos? Keeping Tucker adds fresh legs, and a LH bench bat. Then we rid our selves of Culberson when Bautista arrives, pushing out of our dreams of a Camargo at 3rd. How long Bautista lasts is a dart board special.

[thewupk]

Does this mean we are finally rid of Bourjos? Keeping Tucker adds fresh legs, and a LH bench bat. Then we rid our selves of Culberson when Bautista arrives, pushing out of our dreams of a Camargo at 3rd. How long Bautista lasts is a dart board special.

This would seem logical.

[thewupk]

I get shamed when I say this, what gives?

Because Snitker doesn't play everyone's lovechild Camargo so he sucks.

[thewupk]

I was going to start a Tucker Watch thread on how bad he's been since the date Acuna could have been called up. This saves me some time.

[salmagundy]

I get shamed when I say this, what gives?

I've agreed with your thoughts on Hernandez and Snits from long before you started. I was down on Hernandez from day 1 of his tenure when I read his "resume" of failures.

[Five]

Can’t wait to see what all the fuss is about.

[msstate7]

Because Snitker doesn't play everyone's lovechild Camargo so he sucks.

He sucks bc he sucks. How many double switches this year have cost us ABs from our better hitters?

[thewupk]

He sucks bc he sucks. How many double switches this year have cost us ABs from our better hitters?

very few?

[jsebe10]

Look I’m excited as the next guy about Acuna but isn’t this just simply a ploy to cover what the real problem is....the fckn pitching. Acuna can come out and hit 30+ HRs the rest of the season but it simply won’t amount to much when our pitching staff can’t hold a lead.

[salmagundy]

He sucks bc he sucks. How many double switches this year have cost us ABs from our better hitters?

Last night was the most recent time of costing ABs from better hitters. PH with Camargo and take out Albies?? Going to extra innings I'd prefer Albies over a declining Flaherty who was weak all night.

[UNCBlue012]

Look I’m excited as the next guy about Acuna but isn’t this just simply a ploy to cover what the real problem is....the fckn pitching. Acuna can come out and hit 30+ HRs the rest of the season but it simply won’t amount to much when our pitching staff can’t hold a lead.

Our staff hasn't been an issue this year. Not even in the least. Our bullpen on the other hand.

[msstate7]

very few?

3 of our 10 losses we ended up with...

3/30... Carle hitting in Swanson spot
4/17... bourjas hitting in tucker spot
4/24... Perez hitting in albies spot

[Evad]

Last night was the most recent time of costing ABs from better hitters. PH with Camargo and take out Albies?? Going to extra innings I'd prefer Albies over a declining Flaherty who was weak all night.

I was curious as to why Albies was not in the game and Camargo was when we went to extra innings.

[zitothebrave]

The ideal lineup

Swanson
Albies
Acuna
Freeman

Doesn't matter after that aside from Ender hitting lower. When Acuna proves himself a bit more move Albies to 1 Acuna to 2, Swanson to 5, and catcher to 3.

[bravesfanMatt]

The idea of the double switch was correct. The problem with last nights double switch was you moved the picther batting order only two spots at the expense of Ozzie

[mossy]

Can he pitch?

[UNCBlue012]

Can he pitch?

As long as he walks the leadoff hitter, he'd fit right in.

[thewupk]

3 of our 10 losses we ended up with...

3/30... Carle hitting in Swanson spot
4/17... bourjas hitting in tucker spot
4/24... Perez hitting in albies spot

So....very few, right?

[msstate7]

So....very few, right?

I just looked back at losses... if you consider 30% a small number, sure

[thewupk]

I just looked back at losses... if you consider 30% a small number, sure

So why not all the games?

[msstate7]

So why not all the games?

Mainly bc I'm at least trying to look like I'm working

[thewupk]

Mainly bc I'm at least trying to look like I'm working

Word

[bravesfanMatt]

Mainly bc I'm at least trying to look like I'm working

So your manager hasn’t noticed the bacon egg cheese biscuit not being done in time?

[msstate7]

So your manager hasn’t noticed the bacon egg cheese biscuit not being done in time?

I run the drink machine now #movingup

[AerchAngel]

I run the drink machine now #movingup

With the "The Jeffersons" theme song?

[SJ24]

Let the 30/30 campaign begin in earnest.

[msstate7]

Let the 30/30 campaign begin in earnest.

Neither today, just 2 2b

[CJ9]

Haven't seen this posted on here, but ESPN wrote a really good story about him a few days ago: http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/23245463/introducing-ronald-acuna-mlb-next-superstar

[Bravesfan]

Is he playing today? I live an hour from Cinci. Might make the trip if he is in the line up. Cant make it tomorrow because work.

[msstate7]

Is he playing today? I live an hour from Cinci. Might make the trip if he is in the line up. Cant make it tomorrow because work.

Snit probably gonna keep tucker in after the 9th inning double

Acuna will start

[UNCBlue012]

I really hope everyone has seen Josh's tweet. If not, take a look:

989001346069254144

[Southcack77]

Suzuki
Freeman
Albies
Swanson
Bautista
Markakis
Inciarte
Acuna

Tucker
Flowers
Camargo
Flaherty

So ultimately this is what it is going to settle into right?

[Orphan Black]

Who got sent down or released?

Glad he's finally been called up.

[msstate7]

Who got sent down or released?

Glad he's finally been called up.

Camargo wouldn't surprise me

[bravesfanforlife88]

Would imagine Bourjos. But with it being confirmed late last night and no move announced yet, I wonder if there are more moves being made.

[msstate7]

Would imagine Bourjos. But with it being confirmed late last night and no move announced yet, I wonder if there are more moves being made.

I'd like to see...

Up... Flowers, acuna, and Corbin clouse
Down/dfa... Perez, bourjas, and fried

Who knows if clouse is ready, but I think he is probably as good as any of up/DFA/back to Gwinnett club

[CJ9]

I'd like to see...

Up... Flowers, acuna, and Corbin clouse
Down/dfa... Perez, bourjas, and fried

Who knows if clouse is ready, but I think he is probably as good as any of up/DFA/back to Gwinnett club

If we're calling up a reliever from Mississippi, give me Jacob Webb.

[msstate7]

If we're calling up a reliever from Mississippi, give me Jacob Webb.

He's killing it this year. I think clouse has more upside though, which could mean we should leave him down longer

[DaneHill]

Didn't realize how close Acuna came to originally signing with the Royals. That's gotta make Royals fans sick to their stomach to know they were a phone call away from having a potential generational talent.

[UNCBlue012]

Didn't realize how close Acuna came to originally signing with the Royals. That's gotta make Royals fans sick to their stomach to know they were a phone call away from having a potential generational talent.

I saw that earlier. So glad it worked in our favor!

[Enscheff]

Let the 30/30 campaign begin in earnest.

You better hope so.

[bravesfanforlife88]

I saw that earlier. So glad it worked in our favor!

Where at?

[Enscheff]

Crazy prediction:

Acuna makes his MLB debut June 4 when the Braves go out to SD/LA so he can face all those LHed SPs...Kershaw, Wood, Ryu, Richard and Lucchesi.

Or a few days earlier vs the Nats if Gio is pitching.

Or whenever the Braves are scheduled to see another LHer.

Can anyone guess which hand Finnegan uses to throw the baseball?

[jpx7]

Camargo wouldn't surprise me

Especially since he has options and (seemingly) isn’t presently considered an option for more PA with Cobb County.

[Bluedevilruss]

Can anyone guess which hand Finnegan uses to throw the baseball?

We are all very proud of you.

[DaneHill]

Where at?

"In fact, when Acuna woke up the morning of July 2, 2014, the first day of the signing period, he planned to sign with another team, for even less money. "I was going to sign with the Royals,” Acuna said. "But that same day, the Braves called and offered me more money. So, I decided to sign with the Braves.”"

https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/2017-minor-league-player-of-the-year-ronald-acuna/

[Super]

"In fact, when Acuna woke up the morning of July 2, 2014, the first day of the signing period, he planned to sign with another team, for even less money. "I was going to sign with the Royals,” Acuna said. "But that same day, the Braves called and offered me more money. So, I decided to sign with the Braves.”"

https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/2017-minor-league-player-of-the-year-ronald-acuna/

#ThanksFrank

[Enscheff]

We are all very proud of you.

Compare that to the guy with a much higher IQ than me


Acuna will come up the first day eligible after they gain the additional year of control.

Bourjos will be cut and Acuna will play 95% of the games moving forward between RF/CF.

That prediction is already 2/3 wrong. If Bourjos gets dumped at least tehteh will be 1/3...a solid improvement for him!

[Southcack77]

Can anyone guess which hand Finnegan uses to throw the baseball?

You serious, Clark?

[AerchAngel]

Can anyone guess which hand Finnegan uses to throw the baseball?

SMH

100% genius 100% douche 0% personality

[Garmel]

Compare that to the guy with a much higher IQ than me



Your baseball IQ is higher than his. Your emotional intelligence isn't even close.

[Enscheff]

Your baseball IQ is higher than his. Your emotional intelligence isn't even close.

Good morning stalker. How was the night sleeping in the weeds? Warm enough?

Did you watch that episode of Modern Family where you stole that line through my window?

[thewupk]

#ThanksFrank

Wren opened up those purse strings!

[Garmel]

Good morning stalker. How was the night sleeping in the weeds? Warm enough?

Did you watch that episode of Modern Family where you stole that line through my window?

Big surprise. http://www.rebelcircus.com/blog/people-who-take-gym-selfies-have-psychological-problems/

[AerchAngel]

Look Enscheff, I love your posts when you bring it. Probably the best on the board and would put Scout board to shame, especially sticking it to Bill Skanks,
but come on man, quit being a prick on here. It just takes away all the good you bring.

I enjoy coming here looking for your posts especially, because I learn something every time but instead I get this puerile crap directed at someone. We get it.

Come on man, just be nice, please?

[nsacpi]

Didn't realize how close Acuna came to originally signing with the Royals. That's gotta make Royals fans sick to their stomach to know they were a phone call away from having a potential generational talent.

makes up a little for how we lost Felix Hernandez and Tom Seaver

[4maddux_cy's]

Look Enscheff, I love your posts when you bring it. Probably the best on the board and would put Scout board to shame, especially sticking it to Bill Skanks,
but come on man, quit being a prick on here. It just takes away all the good you bring.

I enjoy coming here looking for your posts especially, because I learn something every time but instead I get this puerile crap directed at someone. We get it.

Come on man, just be nice, please?

Has to be getting close to being suspended again. It's so annoying.

[4maddux_cy's]

makes up a little for how we lost Felix Hernandez and Tom Seaver

What was the story on King Felix? I missed that one.

[thewupk]

What was the story on King Felix? I missed that one.

Pretty sure Braves offered Felix the most money but had a family member or knew someone associated with the Mariners and took their offer. It was like Arod all over again except nobody cared until 6 years later.

[Chico]

So is it Acuna and Flowers up and Bourjos and Garcia out?

[CJ9]

Braves make it official, Bourjos out.

[UNCBlue012]

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[Enscheff]

Acuna was obviously called up to face the LHed SP tonight .

If Snit starts Tucker vs Bailey tomorrow I expect a full force melt down around here.

The Flaherty over Camargo melt downs were just warm ups.

[msstate7]

Braves make it official, Bourjos out.

Is flowers official also?

[Super]

Braves make it official, Bourjos out.

noo please stay..........

[JohnAdcox]

Compare that to the guy with a much higher IQ than me

Can you narrow that down?

[Ozzie Swanson]

Acuna was obviously called up to face the LHed SP tonight .

If Snit starts Tucker vs Bailey tomorrow I expect a full force melt down around here.

The Flaherty over Camargo melt downs were just warm ups.

If Acuna doesn't start every game for the next 6+ years outside of injury/rest situations then I'm breaking out the torches and pitchforks.

[Garmel]

Can you narrow that down?

Posts like these make me wish the Nominate button worked.

[AerchAngel]

Braves make it official, Bourjos out.

Hallelujah!!!!!!!

[DaneHill]

:Bowman: :happy0157:

989203579637583872

[thewupk]

I'm just glad Acuna quit pouting so he could get promoted.

[Tapate50]

I'm just glad Acuna quit pouting so he could get promoted.

Those posts were the BEST.

[DaneHill]

Just want to immortalize it in this thread....

989200603212668933

[AerchAngel]

Just want to immortalize it in this thread....

989200603212668933

Flowers, please hurry back, we don't need two toothpicks in the lineup.

[DaneHill]

Flowers, please hurry back, we don't need two toothpicks in the lineup.

I honestly have yet to see Perez get a hit.

[Russ2dollas]

Just want to immortalize it in this thread....

989200603212668933

I know most of us said Acuna would be in LF.

But there were several folks that said LF would be a travesty. Where are those folks today?

[Southcack77]

I know most of us said Acuna would be in LF.

But there were several folks that said LF would be a travesty. Where are those folks today?

Probably still thinking its a travesty?

[BeanieAntics]

If Suzuki were in that lineup, it would look really really good. Perez is just such a downer to see in there lol

[AerchAngel]

I honestly have yet to see Perez get a hit.

Me either.

He is like another pitcher at the plate.

[Enscheff]

I know most of us said Acuna would be in LF.

But there were several folks that said LF would be a travesty. Where are those folks today?

Only a few of the usual suspects thought Acuna would be in RF.

He will be in RF where he belongs soon enough, just not right now.

[Southcack77]

Only a few of the usual suspects thought Acuna would be in RF.

He will be in RF where he belongs soon enough, just not right now.

you think they can convince Harper to play Left?

[salmagundy]

Who got sent down or released?

Glad he's finally been called up.

Bourjos DFA'd

[Enscheff]

you think they can convince Harper to play Left?

Good point. Maybe Acuna will be in LF forever.

[salmagundy]

:Bowman: :happy0157:

989203579637583872

Bowman didn't mention Wilt,the stilt, Chamberlain

[jpx7]

Those posts were the BEST.

I don’t really abide or endorse Escheff’s “derpalytics” denigrations, generally; but that rationale—argued by a surprising number, given its inanity—really was something else, and something pretty derpy.

[jsebe10]

I honestly have yet to see Perez get a hit.

Unfortunately I was there to witness him break up DeGromm’s NoNo last Saturday.

[Enscheff]

I don’t really abide or endorse Escheff’s “derpalytics” denigrations, generally; but that rationale—argued by a surprising number, given its inanity—really was something else, and something pretty derpy.

I’ve added a couple rs to it, it’s derrrpalytics.

[CrimsonCowboy]

Can we please stay on topic without the back and forth? How many times am I going to have to ask?

[nsacpi]

I’ve added a couple rs to it, it’s derrrpalytics.

more advanced version...of which Acuna pouting is certainly a fine example

certainly there is a fine tradition here...Freddie Freeman's body language whenever he goes a few games without a hit is something that has been brought up many times the last year or two...Freddie "looks lost"...i wish more of our players pouted or looked lost

[SJ24]

It's almost time.

The Sensation. The Phenom. The Chosen One. The Wonder Boy. The Magician. The Maestro. The Natural.

The Rookie.

The Venezuelan Trout.

[thewupk]

It's almost time.

The Sensation. The Phenom. The Chosen One. The Wonder Boy. The Magician. The Maestro. The Natural.

The Rookie.

The Venezuelan Trout.

is tonight the greatest night of your life?

[msstate7]

It's almost time.

The Sensation. The Phenom. The Chosen One. The Wonder Boy. The Magician. The Maestro. The Natural.

The Rookie.

The Venezuelan Trout.

Acuna and albies are magic man and el Diablo

[sturg33]

Finally get to enjoy the full Wren era

[SJ24]

"I want to be like Mike Trout. I want to be at that level. I want to be great. I want to get to the big leagues, stay in the big leagues and play for a lot of years. Everything that comes with it. Be an All-Star, win championships, all that."

Ronald Acuna

[Enscheff]

"I want to be like Mike Trout. I want to be at that level. I want to be great. I want to get to the big leagues, stay in the big leagues and play for a lot of years. Everything that comes with it. Be an All-Star, win championships, all that."

Ronald Acuna

Has any player ever thought any differently?

Just once I'd like to see a player say, "You know, I don't really care if I play at the MLB level. If I get there, I'd be happy with just sitting on the bench for a losing team, collect about 18 career PAs, and fade away into oblivion so I can get started on my used car salesman career".

[msstate7]

Has any player ever thought any differently?

Just once I'd like to see a player say, "You know, I don't really care if I play at the MLB level. If I get there, I'd be happy with just sitting on the bench for a losing team, collect about 18 career PAs, and fade away into oblivion so I can get started on my used car salesman career".

How many actually have the talent to match the desire? Acuna COULD be one of the very few

[SJ24]

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@sportscrack
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Ronald Acuna Jr is 20 years and 128 days old.

The last five starting outfielders to make their MLB debut at a younger age:
Bryce Harper, 2012
Mike Trout, 2011
Miguel Cabrera, 2003
Andruw Jones, 1996
Ken Griffey Jr., 1989

[nsacpi]

Finally get to enjoy the full Wren era

Gonna be a Golden Era

[Enscheff]

How many actually have the talent to match the desire? Acuna COULD be one of the very few

I just think the "he loves to play the game" story lines are amusing.

There will be no shortage of Acuna hype for the next few days...unless he gets off to a slow start, of course.

A slow start will send this board into a melt down over how he was rushed, isn't mentally ready for the MLB, and all sorts of other derrrpalytics.

[msstate7]

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@sportscrack
12m12 minutes ago
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Ronald Acuna Jr is 20 years and 128 days old.

The last five starting outfielders to make their MLB debut at a younger age:
Bryce Harper, 2012
Mike Trout, 2011
Miguel Cabrera, 2003
Andruw Jones, 1996
Ken Griffey Jr., 1989

Awesome

[GeorgiaGirl]

I'm ready to see him play regardless but I think it's pretty funny that the wait ended up being until "2 terrible losses to the Reds".

agh, this should've said funny, not fun...wasn't awake as it was early.

[CrimsonCowboy]

CUT IT OUT RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!

[Runnin]

Gonna be a Golden Era
The Atlanta Golden Wrens. Replace the chop with the whistle.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/83/e5/7a/83e57ac6b2d501097ca5dfd9c1e8ae0f.jpg

[DaneHill]

https://i.imgur.com/eBOXVa6.gif

[Bravesfan]

In before someone tells us not to enjoy it becuase he is going to regress to the mean lol. He isnt going to slug .900!!!

[thewupk]

In before someone tells us not to enjoy it becuase he is going to regress to the mean lol. He isnt going to slug .900!!!

he might

[BeanieAntics]

Just an FYI on the Acuna sprint speed topic, on his infield single today statcast had him at 30.4 ft/sec.

[thewupk]

Just an FYI on the Acuna sprint speed topic, on his infield single today statcast had him at 30.4 ft/sec.

80 grade!

[smootness]

80 grade!

I don't know if this is sarcasm or not, but that is definitely 80 grade speed.

[thewupk]

I don't know if this is sarcasm or not, but that is definitely 80 grade speed.

why would that be sarcasm? it's simple math.

[BeanieAntics]

why would that be sarcasm? it's simple math.

.... was that sarcasm? You are playing some professional grade sarcastaball right now.

[thewupk]

.... was that sarcasm? You are playing some professional grade sarcastaball right now.

science is never wrong

[BeanieAntics]

science is never wrong

Randy Marsh has nothing on you.

[Enscheff]

While 30+ ft/s is certainly 80 grade speed, we are only seeing the ones commentators want to showcase...the best ones. This is not an apples to apples comparison when talking about the average sprint speed of other players with more data collected for them.

When he has enough sprint events to have the same average that's calculated for every other player, we will have his sprint speed. Then we can compare apples to apples. It's looking like that 60 grade speed may have been a little conservative so far though.

There's no need to rush to conclusions and pimp Acuna even more...the hype is already at 9 of 10.

[thewupk]

While 30+ ft/s is certainly 80 grade speed, we are only seeing the ones commentators want to showcase...the best ones. This is not an apples to apples comparison when talking about the average sprint speed of other players with more data collected for them.

When he has enough sprint events to have the same average that's calculated for every other player, we will have his sprint speed. Then we can compare apples to apples. It's looking like that 60 grade speed may have been a little conservative so far though.

There's no need to rush to conclusions and pimp Acuna even more...the hype is already at 9 of 10.

mine goes up to 11

[BeanieAntics]

While 30+ ft/s is certainly 80 grade speed, we are only seeing the ones commentators want to showcase...the best ones. This is not an apples to apples comparison when talking about the average sprint speed of other players with more data collected for them.

When he has enough sprint events to have the same average that's calculated for every other player, we will have his sprint speed. Then we can compare apples to apples. It's looking like that 60 grade speed may have been a little conservative so far though.

There's no need to rush to conclusions and pimp Acuna even more...the hype is already at 9 of 10.

Yeah I agree with this. I just didn't expect this type of speed, but you are right that there are likely other events that will bring his average down a bit.

[Enscheff]

Yeah I agree with this. I just didn't expect this type of speed, but you are right that there are likely other events that will bring his average down a bit.

Maybe, maybe not. I find it unlikely the entire scouting community missed 80 Grade speed, but it could certainly be better than 60.

We will know for sure soon enough.

Regardless of his speed grade (or the inevitable slump that is coming), it's clear he's a great player.

[NinersSBChamps]

Not even going to bother reading through the pages of you guys circle jerking.
Jason Heyward started his career off with a bang too and overall had a solid rookie campaign.

[GeorgiaGirl]

I missed his first HR live. :(

[nsacpi]

I missed his first HR live. :(

he pouted

[Bluedevilruss]

Not even going to bother reading through the pages of you guys circle jerking.
Jason Heyward started his career off with a bang too and overall had a solid rookie campaign.

What a happy life you must lead.

[smootness]

Maybe, maybe not. I find it unlikely the entire scouting community missed 80 Grade speed, but it could certainly be better than 60.

We will know for sure soon enough.

Regardless of his speed grade (or the inevitable slump that is coming), it's clear he's a great player.

If you have 2 sprints in your first 2 games that are 30+ f/s, I think it's safe to say your speed grade is higher than 60.

They don't have Statcast data in the minors, do they? So it's mostly just observation? Seems like they could hang a 'plus' grade on a guy who is actually elite. And FG had him at 60, but others had him at 70.

[msstate7]

If you have 2 sprints in your first 2 games that are 30+ f/s, I think it's safe to say your speed grade is higher than 60.

They don't have Statcast data in the minors, do they? So it's mostly just observation? Seems like they could hang a 'plus' grade on a guy who is actually elite. And FG had him at 60, but others had him at 70.

More fangraphs' bias favoring braves - thewupk

[nsacpi]

More fangraphs' bias favoring braves - thewupk

the bias only applies to non-Wren players

[Enscheff]

If you lower the minimum to 5, Acuna's sprint speed is now listed as 28.3.

That is an apples to apples comparison (though still maybe a bit of a SSS) to the other values we use to grade player speed rather than cherry picking the best numbers to splash on a hype graphic.

28.3 is roughly Grade 60 speed. It is not the ~30 value we see from 80 grade guys like Buxton, Turner, Hamilton and Gordon.

Several Braves are faster than Acuna...

LAdams 29.6
Bourjos 29.3
Swanson 29.1
Albies 29.0


I have no doubt this will continue to be debated ignorantly though.

[thewupk]

If you lower the minimum to 5, Acuna's sprint speed is now listed as 28.3.

That is an apples to apples comparison (though still maybe a bit of a SSS) to the other values we use to grade player speed rather than cherry picking the best numbers to splash on a hype graphic.

28.3 is roughly Grade 60 speed. It is not the ~30 value we see from 80 grade guys like Buxton, Turner, Hamilton and Gordon.

Several Braves are faster than Acuna...

LAdams 29.6
Bourjos 29.3
Swanson 29.1
Albies 29.0


I have no doubt this will continue to be debated ignorantly though.

damn. math wins again.

[Super]

I have no doubt this will continue to be debated ignorantly though.

is this not a small enough sample to where another ~30 could raise it tho?

[Enscheff]

is this not a small enough sample to where another ~30 could raise it tho?

Sure, and another 27 could lower it. His sprint speed is calculated exactly the same way as everyone else.

He's a great player with good speed. Why does this board insist on making him a great player with elite speed?

I realize folks want to turn the Acuna hype up to 11, but come on.

[bravesfanMatt]

My hype is 13


See what I did there.

[Super]

Sure, and another 27 could lower it. His sprint speed is calculated exactly the same way as everyone else.

He's a great player with good speed. Why does this board insist on making him a great player with elite speed?

I realize folks want to turn the Acuna hype up to 11, but come on.

i'm not, just asking.

[Hawk]

My hype is 13


See what I did there.

My hype is 1337

Boom, bitch.

[BeanieAntics]

If you lower the minimum to 5, Acuna's sprint speed is now listed as 28.3.

That is an apples to apples comparison (though still maybe a bit of a SSS) to the other values we use to grade player speed rather than cherry picking the best numbers to splash on a hype graphic.

28.3 is roughly Grade 60 speed. It is not the ~30 value we see from 80 grade guys like Buxton, Turner, Hamilton and Gordon.

Several Braves are faster than Acuna...

LAdams 29.6
Bourjos 29.3
Swanson 29.1
Albies 29.0


I have no doubt this will continue to be debated ignorantly though.

To be fair, since I was the one that started this topic I will say that grading speed is something that I am definitely not experienced at. I was under the incorrect assumption that speed could be graded more quickly than it actually should be. So when I saw 30.4 ft/sec I assumed that would put him near the top of the league in top speed. I'm open to numbers changing my mind, which they have.

[Enscheff]

To be fair, since I was the one that started this topic I will say that grading speed is something that I am definitely not experienced at. I was under the incorrect assumption that speed could be graded more quickly than it actually should be. So when I saw 30.4 ft/sec I assumed that would put him near the top of the league in top speed. I'm open to numbers changing my mind, which they have.

I was unsure about it as well. I have heard comments that lead me to believe speed can be measured as a one time (or nearly one time) deal.

The single 30.4 for Acuna isn't the same as the 30.4 sprint speed posted for Buxton though. It wasn't an apples to apples comparison. We have the apples (mostly) for Acuna now.

There is probably a graphic out there somewhere showing Buxton at 31+ for a trip from 1st to 3rd.

[Enscheff]

It's settled...Acuna and Albies both have a 20% chance of making the HOF.

https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/instagraphs/acunas-hall-of-fame-chances-are-higher-than-you-think/

[thewupk]

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/04/27/sport/atlanta-braves-fan-ronald-acuna-jr-home-run-ball/index.html


Webster and his friend left Atlanta and arrived in Cincinnati early Thursday morning. They got their autographs. And then, sitting in the stadium, it hit them.
"Let's look at a spray chart from the minors and see where he might hit his first major league homer," Webster said. "I just happened to put myself in the right spot."


This fan knows more about analytics than Coppy

[bravesfanMatt]

It's settled...Acuna and Albies both have a 20% chance of making the HOF.

https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/instagraphs/acunas-hall-of-fame-chances-are-higher-than-you-think/

If they work together it could be 40%

[Enscheff]

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/04/27/sport/atlanta-braves-fan-ronald-acuna-jr-home-run-ball/index.html



This fan knows more about analytics than Coppy

Acuna is still pouting...

[JxnMissFan]

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/04/27/sport/atlanta-braves-fan-ronald-acuna-jr-home-run-ball/index.html



This fan knows more about analytics than Coppy

Back in Joe Simpson’s day fans didn’t need advanced stats to catch HR balls. Fans had grit and determination. These advance stats are ridiculous and ruining fans.

[Tapate50]

Acuna went hitless? What kind of sorcery did the pitcher use?

Is he a bust yet ? Niners wants to know.

[thewupk]

Acuna already +1 on DRS and Outs Above Average due to the 4 star play he caught the other night. And with surprisingly plus defense from Nick the defense in the OF is looking really good right now.

[nsacpi]

Acuna already +1 on DRS and Outs Above Average due to the 4 star play he caught the other night. And with surprisingly plus defense from Nick the defense in the OF is looking really good right now.

it would make sense to slightly adjust Inciarte's positioning toward right with Acuna in left

[nsacpi]

Acuna went hitless? What kind of sorcery did the pitcher use?

Is he a bust yet ? Niners wants to know.

as soon as he goes back to pouting he'll be fine

[thewupk]

Acuna sitting at 27.9 feet per second in sprint speed after 8 events so far. That's good for the 90-100 range. So while disappointing from the first post that got brought up about it's pretty much in line with what the scouts had him at with plus speed. Doesn't look like he's grade 70 like Albies.

[msstate7]

Acuna sitting at 27.9 feet per second in sprint speed after 8 events so far. That's good for the 90-100 range. So while disappointing from the first post that got brought up about it's pretty much in line with what the scouts had him at with plus speed. Doesn't look like he's grade 70 like Albies.

How many events is a sufficient sample size for this stat?

[thewupk]

How many events is a sufficient sample size for this stat?

Statcast has their initial set at 10 minimum. I think we are getting to a spot where 'this is it'. Acuna can max out at 30 f/s but clearly it's not going to be the norm. So far he's shown 60 grade overall speed which is what most scouts had him pegged at.

[thethe]

Is every run tracked? If so I've I've that metric is faulty because how often are guys running with max effort?

[thewupk]

Is every run tracked? If so I've I've that metric is faulty because how often are guys running with max effort?

It's defined at the top of the page where the information is located

Sprint Speed is Statcast’s foot speed metric, defined as “feet per second in a player’s fastest one-second window” on individual plays. For a player’s seasonal average, the following two types of plays currently qualify for inclusion in Sprint Speed. The best of these runs, approximately two-thirds, are averaged for a player’s seasonal average.
* Runs of two bases or more on non-homers, excluding being a runner on second base when an extra base hit happens
* Home to first on “topped” or “weakly hit” balls.

[Enscheff]

Is every run tracked? If so I've I've that metric is faulty because how often are guys running with max effort?

It is measured and calculated exactly the same for every player. Since grades are used to rate against other players, that’s all that matters.

Notice folks only question it now that they want Acuna to have a higher speed grade than it actually is?

[mfree80]

It is measured and calculated exactly the same for every player. Since grades are used to rate against other players, that’s all that matters.

Notice folks only question it now that they want Acuna to have a higher speed grade than it actually is?

Sounds more like trying to increase understanding of what the number means than questioning it so Acuna can have a higher grade.

[Enscheff]

Sounds more like trying to increase understanding of what the number means than questioning it so Acuna can have a higher grade.

We’ve talked about sprint speed for over a year. Nobody ever questioned it until they didn’t like Acuna’s grade.

So no, I doubt intellectual curiosity suddenly struck some posters who have never shown that mental trait in the past. They want to keep thinking Acuna has elite speed because he “looks fast”.

[thewupk]

We’ve talked about sprint speed for over a year. Nobody ever questioned it until they didn’t like Acuna’s grade.

So no, I doubt intellectual curiosity suddenly struck some posters who have never shown that mental trait in the past. They want to keep thinking Acuna has elite speed because he “looks fast”.

It's the same way defensive stats get questioned by some when propping up Heywards value for example but for Albies he's a true 6+ WAR guy.

[Bravesfan]

We’ve talked about sprint speed for over a year. Nobody ever questioned it until they didn’t like Acuna’s grade.

So no, I doubt intellectual curiosity suddenly struck some posters who have never shown that mental trait in the past. They want to keep thinking Acuna has elite speed because he “looks fast”.

Im more into basketball analytics than baseball. This isnt about Acuna but a general question. How do you account for effort? Or is it just assumed that throughout time the effort will even out? Therefore you can still get a true grade.

[GeorgiaGirl]

Just fwiw from our main statcast guy:

https://twitter.com/_dadler/status/990661824017305601

I'm not questioning the sprint speed, but it may be possible that he's not going all out at all times.

[thewupk]

Just fwiw from our main statcast guy:

https://twitter.com/_dadler/status/990661824017305601

I'm not questioning the sprint speed, but it may be possible that he's not going all out at all times.

He's clearly fast. But do you think this only applies to Acuna?

[GeorgiaGirl]

He's clearly fast. But do you think this only applies to Acuna?

No.

[BeanieAntics]

The varying numbers on Acuna will get answered in this next week or so. I think its pretty clear that he has somewhere in between 60 grade and 70 grade speed.

[Southcack77]

I honestly don’ t care if Acuna is a 50 a 60 or a WD-40 but I again wonder whether averaging speed is the best measure. If that’s how they do it even.

No objection the the idea there are faster players who put up faster isolated times. I doubt Acuna is the fastest player in baseball given he didn’t really have that reputation.

He’s probably plenty fast though.

[thewupk]

I honestly don’ t care if Acuna aid a 50 a 60 or a WD-40 but I again wonder whether averaging speed is the best measure. If that’s how they do it even.

No objection the the idea there are faster players who put up faster isolated times. I doubt Acuna is the fastest player in baseball given he didn’t really have that reputation.

He’s probably plenty fast though.

They take the top 2/3's though.

[nsacpi]

seems obvious to me Acuna is still pouting and not running as hard as he can

hope he enjoys his off day in the big apple

[Southcack77]

They take the top 2/3's though.

See there you go. Makes sense.

[sturg33]

990716644228988929

[thethe]

990716644228988929

He's living up to an insane amount of hype so far in his early career.

[thewupk]

990716644228988929

That's impressive. I think his issue right now will be if he can make enough contact to make good use of his swing to be productive and so far it's more than enough.

[Julio3000]

He'll have his ups and downs but I'm encouraged by his early patience and confident that when he hits it, it stays hit. I'm sorely tempted to call him Andruw with a flatter learning curve.

[thethe]

He'll have his ups and downs but I'm encouraged by his early patience and confident that when he hits it, it stays hit. I'm sorely tempted to call him Andruw with a flatter learning curve.

The most glaring thing is that plate discipline. He identifies spin quickly and can distinguish between the fastball and offspeed early.

[zitothebrave]

If any mother****ers break this man's jaw, we're gonna fight. I don't mean me and that pitcher, I mean the whole board and that pitcher.

[thewupk]

If any mother****ers break this man's jaw, we're gonna fight. I don't mean me and that pitcher, I mean the whole board and that pitcher.

I mean. It can't happen twice, right?

[BeanieAntics]

I mean. It can't happen twice, right?

Tell that to every hitter on our team's wrist/hand.

[thewupk]

Tell that to every hitter on our team's wrist/hand.

:Sad:

We've been lucky on that this year so far.

[GovClintonTyree]

He'll have his ups and downs but I'm encouraged by his early patience and confident that when he hits it, it stays hit. I'm sorely tempted to call him Andruw with a flatter learning curve.

All you whippersnappers might not appreciate this, but he really doesn't favor Andruw as much as he does a young Willie Mays.

[weso1]

It's a lot of fun to watch he and Albies play.

[Super]

i might be most impressed by his approach so far. he's not free-swinging. idk when we can start looking at his swing %s to get a good idea, but he definitely seems to have a good idea of what he's seeing.

idk how he was even k-ing the way he was in the minors. was definitely pouting.

[GovClintonTyree]

i might be most impressed by his approach so far. he's not free-swinging. idk when we can start looking at his swing %s to get a good idea, but he definitely seems to have a good idea of what he's seeing.

idk how he was even k-ing the way he was in the minors. was definitely pouting.

Oh, yeah. No question

[thewupk]

Just fwiw from our main statcast guy:

https://twitter.com/_dadler/status/990661824017305601

I'm not questioning the sprint speed, but it may be possible that he's not going all out at all times.

So to come back to this Acuna now sits with 12 readings and is at 28.9 f/s which rates 32nd in baseball. Ozzie is at 29.2

Will be interesting to see where this settles as more information comes in.

Does look like he was undersold a bit in the speed dept.


Also interesting is that Swanson is 21st in baseball at 29.1

[msstate7]

So to come back to this Acuna now sits with 12 readings and is at 28.9 f/s which rates 32nd in baseball. Ozzie is at 29.2

Will be interesting to see where this settles as more information comes in.

Does look like he was undersold a bit in the speed dept.


Also interesting is that Swanson is 21st in baseball at 29.1

Im surprised Swanson is that fast

[Enscheff]

So to come back to this Acuna now sits with 12 readings and is at 28.9 f/s which rates 32nd in baseball. Ozzie is at 29.2

Will be interesting to see where this settles as more information comes in.

Does look like he was undersold a bit in the speed dept.


Also interesting is that Swanson is 21st in baseball at 29.1

That's 70 grade.

[msstate7]

Who is #1-5 in speed?

[Enscheff]

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/sprint_speed_leaderboard

[msstate7]

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/sprint_speed_leaderboard

I didn't know story was so fast. Guess he doesn't sprint after all those HRs vs the braves

[Enscheff]

I'm guessing now that Acuna's number is showing 70 grade, nobody has any issues with the statistic lol.

[msstate7]

I'm guessing now that Acuna's number is showing 70 grade, nobody has any issues with the statistic lol.

If it is indeed 70 grade, you nervous about 30 SB?

[thewupk]

If it is indeed 70 grade, you nervous about 30 SB?

If sprint speed directly lead to SB he might be.

[msstate7]

If sprint speed directly lead to SB he might be.

#1 was 29/37 in SB
#2 was 29/30
#3 was 8/9 (301 PA)
#4 was 7/9
#5 was 59/73

[Enscheff]

#1 was 29/37 in SB
#2 was 29/30
#3 was 8/9 (301 PA)
#4 was 7/9
#5 was 59/73

So...like he said...if it was directly related I would be.

[msstate7]

So...like he said...if it was directly related I would be.

That's 132/158 (.835). What is normal steal success?

[jpx7]

Interesting that Bourjos was the highest ranked Braves player. Guess he really did have that skill still working for him, if nothing else.

[Enscheff]

That's 132/158 (.835). What is normal steal success?

Was the bet based on SB rate, or SB total? Do you think I don't know what I'm getting myself into when I propose these bets?

If you want to look up average SB success rate, go to the FG leader boards, click League, sort by SB%, then go to each year you're interested in.

The general rule of thumb is that SBs are only a plus if the success rate is 75%, so I imagine it's right around there.

[jpx7]

If sprint speed directly lead to SB he might be.

So...like he said...if it was directly related I would be.

To this point, it's also interesting that Inciarte is way down at #183 (27.1, and barely above Preston Tucker's 27.0), yet he's clearly been the most effective base-stealer for the Braves so far.

[thewupk]

#1 was 29/37 in SB
#2 was 29/30
#3 was 8/9 (301 PA)
#4 was 7/9
#5 was 59/73

So 1 in the top 5 got to 30 SB?

The Braves 2 fastest runners have a combined 5 SB this year so far. And someone with average sprint speed has 11 or whatever now.

[msstate7]

So 1 in the top 5 got to 30 SB?

The Braves 2 fastest runners have a combined 5 SB this year so far. And someone with average sprint speed has 11 or whatever now.

Acuna is 1/1. He will run if he is on 1b imo. Albies keeps hitting extra base hits, so no reason to run

[jpx7]

Acuna is 1/1. He will run if he is on 1b imo. Albies keeps hitting extra base hits, so no reason to run

Have to assume Acuña will likewise rarely be on first outside of walks.

[thethe]

Have to assume Acuña will likewise rarely be on first outside of walks.

There is always third and home brah!

[thewupk]

Acuna is 1/1. He will run if he is on 1b imo. Albies keeps hitting extra base hits, so no reason to run

I'm not saying he can't get to 30. But I thought it was well established that being fast =/= good base stealer/runner.

[CJ9]

I remember reading some reports on Acuña in the minors about how his instincts as a base stealer were not very good. Will be interesting to see if that's true as he gets more chances.

[msstate7]

I'm not saying he can't get to 30. But I thought it was well established that being fast =/= good base stealer/runner.

I was just wanting to see how well that correlates to elite speed, not just above avg. I had no idea, so I asked mlb steal success rate. I was gonna compare that number to the elite guys' rate.

ETA... found it... 73% success rate last season, so elite speed guys were about 10% better than avg

[Nerfherders]

Stealing has almost as much to do with properly reading the pitcher as it does speed. I think the more important aspect of speed is running with a ball in play. Infield hits, Breaking up DP's, taking an extra base on a hit, going 1st to 3rd, scoring from 2nd are all IMO more important than stealing bases in most circumstances.

[jpx7]

I was just wanting to see how well that correlates to elite speed, not just above avg. I had no idea, so I asked mlb steal success rate. I was gonna compare that number to the elite guys' rate.

ETA... found it... 73% success rate last season, so elite speed guys were about 10% better than avg

I didn't immediately find an sb% column by which I could sort, so I used fangraphs' wSB stat instead (which is supposed to estimate "the number of runs a player contributes to his team by stealing bases, as compared to the average player"). I then compared that to the Sprint Speed Leaderboard Enscheff linked.



Player
wSB Rank
Sprint Speed Rank


Trea Turner
#1
#6


Michael A Taylor
#2
#39


Ender Inciarte
#3
#183


Tim Anderson
#4
#10


Dee Gorden
#5
#9


Billy Hamilton
#6
#5


Trevor Story
#7
#4


Jean Segura
#8
#108


Andrew Benintendi
#9
#142


Mike Trout
#10
#24



Half the players are in both top-tens; but a third of the wSB top-ten are outside the top-hundred. Grains of salt apply, given this is just 2018, so just over a month's worth of data. And obviously, if your manager doesn't send you, or you hit too many bombs like Albies, you're not going to show up very high in the wSB rankings. But I think this very imperfectly reflects that speed is helpful, but not sufficient, for adding value in the steals department.

Sidenote: that was exhausting and I don't know how Enscheff does this sort of **** (and with a lot more complexity) all the time. Back to reading poems.

[nsacpi]

Back to reading poems.

how about writing one about Ozymandias

i help with first line

I met a traveller from a little island

[jpx7]

how about writing one about Ozymandias

i help with first line

I met a traveller from a little island

Bold choice to rewrite Shelley's pentameter in hendecasyllabics—though it does nicely suggest an imperial mode.

And on his rosined bat, these words are scrawled:
My name is Ozymandias, the Little King;
Look on my launch-angle, ye skeptics, and despair!
No one on base remains. And round the stands
Of that infernal suburb, boundless and bare,
The high and arcing bombs sing with the fans.

[msstate7]

If acuna steals at league avg (.73), he would have to run 41 times. In 5 games, he has run 1 time. 135 games left, he has to pick up the pace, SJ

[nsacpi]

Bold choice to rewrite Shelley's pentameter in hendecasyllabics—though it does nicely suggest an imperial mode.

And on his rosined bat, these words are scrawled:
My name is Ozymandias, the Little King;
Look on my launch-angle, ye skeptics, and despair!
No one on base remains. And round the stands
Of that infernal suburb, boundless and bare,
The high and arcing bombs sing with the fans.

very nice...all you needed was a little inspiration...Ozymandias, the Little King has a nice ring to it

[nsacpi]

Little King might stick

[Enscheff]

I didn't immediately find an sb% column by which I could sort, so I used fangraphs' wSB stat instead (which is supposed to estimate "the number of runs a player contributes to his team by stealing bases, as compared to the average player"). I then compared that to the Sprint Speed Leaderboard Enscheff linked.



Player
wSB Rank
Sprint Speed Rank


Trea Turner
#1
#6


Michael A Taylor
#2
#39


Ender Inciarte
#3
#183


Tim Anderson
#4
#10


Dee Gorden
#5
#9


Billy Hamilton
#6
#5


Trevor Story
#7
#4


Jean Segura
#8
#108


Andrew Benintendi
#9
#142


Mike Trout
#10
#24



Half the players are in both top-tens; but a third of the wSB top-ten are outside the top-hundred. Grains of salt apply, given this is just 2018, so just over a month's worth of data. And obviously, if your manager doesn't send you, or you hit too many bombs like Albies, you're not going to show up very high in the wSB rankings. But I think this very imperfectly reflects that speed is helpful, but not sufficient, for adding value in the steals department.

Sidenote: that was exhausting and I don't know how Enscheff does this sort of **** (and with a lot more complexity) all the time. Back to reading poems.

The trick is to write data classes used over and over that import all the data. Write them once and the data is all there all the time.

At that point you can compare all wSB values with all Sprint Speed values for all players across multiple seasons and look for correlation. Once you have the R2 value you know the answer without need for any qualifying words.

[jpx7]

The need for qualifying words is my wheelhouse, though.

[GovClintonTyree]

Bold choice to rewrite Shelley's pentameter in hendecasyllabics—though it does nicely suggest an imperial mode.

And on his rosined bat, these words are scrawled:
My name is Ozymandias, the Little King;
Look on my launch-angle, ye skeptics, and despair!
No one on base remains. And round the stands
Of that infernal suburb, boundless and bare,
The high and arcing bombs sing with the fans.

Just extraordinary. Chapeau

[Enscheff]

It probably doesn't surprise anyone, but Acuna has only been up for like a week ,and he already has 3 of the 7 hardest hit balls of any Brave.

The complete Top 10:

1. Acuna 111.8 mph
2. Tucker 111.2 mph
3. Acuna 110.9 mph
4. Tucker 110.4 mph
5. Tucker 110.3 mph
6. Freeman 109.2 mph
7. Acuna 108.7 mph
8. Freeman 108.7 mph
9. Albies 108.7 mph
10. Albies 108.4 mph

For reference, the hardest hit balls in all of MLB so far in 2018 are:

1. CarGo 118.3
2. Judge 118.1
3. Stanton 117.9
4. Hanley 117.5
5. Stanton 117.3
6. Ozuna 117.2
7. Schwarber 117.2
8. Franchy Cordero (who?) 116.9
9. Cruz 116.9
10. Stanton 116.9

Braves hitters have a ways to go to catch the real mashers haha. It's just a matter of time before Stanton or Judge hit one 120+.

[thewupk]

Looks like you need more than 5-10 sprint speed readings before making any determinations...


Acuna has 17 runs that has averaged 29.8 ft/s which is 7th in baseball. 70 grade speed indeed.

[sturg33]

It probably doesn't surprise anyone, but Acuna has only been up for like a week ,and he already has 3 of the 7 hardest hit balls of any Brave.

The complete Top 10:

1. Acuna 111.8 mph
2. Tucker 111.2 mph
3. Acuna 110.9 mph
4. Tucker 110.4 mph
5. Tucker 110.3 mph
6. Freeman 109.2 mph
7. Acuna 108.7 mph
8. Freeman 108.7 mph
9. Albies 108.7 mph
10. Albies 108.4 mph

For reference, the hardest hit balls in all of MLB so far in 2018 are:

1. CarGo 118.3
2. Judge 118.1
3. Stanton 117.9
4. Hanley 117.5
5. Stanton 117.3
6. Ozuna 117.2
7. Schwarber 117.2
8. Franchy Cordero (who?) 116.9
9. Cruz 116.9
10. Stanton 116.9

Braves hitters have a ways to go to catch the real mashers haha. It's just a matter of time before Stanton or Judge hit one 120+.

If you don't know Cordero, you should watch a few of his highlights. Dude can MASH and run

But he strikes out a ton. Reminds me of Aaron Judte