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SJ24
04-30-2018, 10:27 PM
I think this young man has a chance to be a very good pitcher for us.

AA at age 20: 7 starts, 39.2 IP, 3.69 FIP, 9.98 K/9, 4.99 BB/9, .276 BABIP, 70.3% LOB.

AA at age 21: 5 starts, 24.1 IP, 3.42 FIP, 12.21 K/9, 4.44 BB/9, .304 BABIP, 61.6% LOB.

Great time to be a Brave.

Hawk
04-30-2018, 10:51 PM
I almost forgot he was in the organization.

msstate7
04-30-2018, 10:54 PM
The florida trout

Deester11
04-30-2018, 10:57 PM
I think this young man has a chance to be a very good pitcher for us.

AA at age 20: 7 starts, 39.2 IP, 3.69 FIP, 9.98 K/9, 4.99 BB/9, .276 BABIP, 70.3% LOB.

AA at age 21: 5 starts, 24.1 IP, 3.42 FIP, 12.21 K/9, 4.44 BB/9, .304 BABIP, 61.6% LOB.

Great time to be a Brave.
He's so much projection and because he's not Soroka he will always be about the tools he possesses versus his results. Finally got a look at him other than Rome. Gotta say he had improved so much. Even then his defense was miserable behind him. If it were all about ERA you could write him off bullpen fodder, but I feel he should start until he can't. I like Touki a great deal.

UNCBlue012
05-01-2018, 04:37 AM
Touki's the type of player I could see us trading away as a part of a deal and regret when he goes on to have a great career.

striker42
05-01-2018, 05:15 AM
The comp I use for Touki is Tom Gordon. Good fastball and a curve so nasty it fools umpires as well as hitters. If he has a career like Gordon I'd be very pleased.

TheBravos
05-01-2018, 06:38 AM
Prospect fatigue. He is still very up and down though. One day he is lights out and the next day getting torched.

He could be a stud closer. I’m afraid he will remind us of Viz....who makes me nervous every time he comes in (because you never know what Viz shows up each day).

Think of a pen that has Minter, Touki, and Weigel...it’s coming.

msstate7
05-01-2018, 06:41 AM
Prospect fatigue. He is still very up and down though. One day he is lights out and the next day getting torched.

He could be a stud closer. I’m afraid he will remind us of Viz....who makes me nervous every time he comes in (because you never know what Viz shows up each day).

Think of a pen that has Minter, Touki, and Weigel...it’s coming.

Clouse will be in the atlanta pen

bravesfanMatt
05-01-2018, 06:43 AM
Clouse will be in the atlanta pen

Yes. But to bravos point. Weigel might be the best of the bunch. True miller type role

msstate7
05-01-2018, 06:45 AM
Yes. But to bravos point. Weigel might be the best of the bunch. True miller type role

Weigel is one of my favorite prospects. I haven't given up on his as a starter. When will he throw again?

bravesfanMatt
05-01-2018, 06:48 AM
Weigel is one of my favorite prospects. I haven't given up on his as a starter. When will he throw again?

Probably not this year. Didn’t he get it last June.

TheBravos
05-01-2018, 06:55 AM
Probably not this year. Didn’t he get it last June.

It will be next year for sure.

msstate7
05-01-2018, 06:59 AM
Probably not this year. Didn’t he get it last June.

Something like that.

50PoundHead
05-01-2018, 07:00 AM
It will all boil down to command with him. If he sharpens things up, he has a pretty high ceiling. I like the Gordon comp except Toussaint is a lot bigger physically. Like striker42, I think if he can be a facsimile of Gordon, that would be pretty awesome.

jpx7
05-01-2018, 07:03 AM
Probably not this year. Didn’t he get it last June.

It will be next year for sure.

According to this report (https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/news/braves-patrick-weigel-begins-throwing-following-surgery/), he started throwing again in January, and could return to the minor-league mound as early as July.

msstate7
05-01-2018, 07:05 AM
https://s7.postimg.cc/5i9l3ff63/937_CA672-8_D61-4_A5_E-9_CD0-_FFA9_A139_DFFB.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

I must have had 100 of these as a kid

msstate7
05-01-2018, 07:05 AM
According to this report (https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/news/braves-patrick-weigel-begins-throwing-following-surgery/), he started throwing again in January, and could return to the minor-league mound as early as July.

Wow... great info

bravesfanMatt
05-01-2018, 07:13 AM
According to this report (https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/news/braves-patrick-weigel-begins-throwing-following-surgery/), he started throwing again in January, and could return to the minor-league mound as early as July.

That is crazy. Don’t rush it man. Call Venters for advice.

Carp
05-01-2018, 07:35 AM
Clouse will be in the atlanta pen

How close is Clouse? If Clouse is close is it possible he could close? If so, we could be close to seeing a closing Clouse.

msstate7
05-01-2018, 07:46 AM
How close is Clouse? If Clouse is close is it possible he could close? If so, we could be close to seeing a closing Clouse.

He needs to keep closeting himself on throwing strikes. If he does that, I see the FO closuring on his closeness soon

thewupk
05-01-2018, 08:06 AM
The florida trout

isn't that a marlin?

Tapate50
05-01-2018, 08:28 AM
isn't that a marlin?

:HeywardWut:

Tapate50
05-01-2018, 08:28 AM
Sadly, something Touki and I have in common on this board. :Sad:

thewupk
05-01-2018, 08:33 AM
Sadly, something Touki and I have in common on this board. :Sad:

inconsistent performance?

Enscheff
05-01-2018, 11:28 AM
Touki has terrible command, period. Difference is, and something I certainly seem to forget about him quite a bit for some reason, is that he is still only 22.

Guys like Newk and Fried are past the age where they are likely to markedly improve their command, but Touki is not. He should not be lumped in that group yet.

He still has 1-2 more seasons until we need to start worrying about his poor command being terminal.

Deester11
05-01-2018, 12:03 PM
Touki has terrible command, period. Difference is, and something I certainly seem to forget about him quite a bit for some reason, is that he is still only 22.

Guys like Newk and Fried are past the age where they are likely to markedly improve their command, but Touki is not. He should not be lumped in that group yet.

He still has 1-2 more seasons until we need to start worrying about his poor command being terminal.
So much of this. I wouldn't earmark him for the pen before we know his command won't get better. Think of it like this : when I first saw him, he usually sat at 70 pitches in the third /4th inning. No efficient innings due to command. His other peripherals are really pretty good so to Enscheff's point, I think it's about 2 years too soon to worry about the pen. (I'm not making the umpire excuse, but that curve is deadly)!

clvclv
05-01-2018, 12:43 PM
Prospect fatigue. He is still very up and down though. One day he is lights out and the next day getting torched.

He could be a stud closer. I’m afraid he will remind us of Viz....who makes me nervous every time he comes in (because you never know what Viz shows up each day).

Think of a pen that has Minter, Touki, and Weigel...it’s coming.

And Fried.

Southcack77
05-01-2018, 08:44 PM
Weigel seemed to me to be the most likely of that first wave to succeed as a starter. Think he might have succeeded but for injury.

Wouldn’t have pigeonholed him as a reliever.