GDT: Marlins @ Braves 5/18

[Garmel]

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[msstate7]

Wisler makes more sense....

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[Garmel]

Wisler makes more sense....

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LOL! Looks like we're having a bullpen game.

[Enscheff]

Looking forward to the overreactions to whatever Wisler does.

[msstate7]

Are we just pushing everyone back a day for rest or what?

[Onlyonegoal]

DOB's dumbass out here tweeting about Newcomb going on the DL. Then replies to someone asking about it saying "Not trying to be a smartass but did this many people not see the article yesterday about Newcomb going on the 10 day DL and why?"

Doesn't know the difference between Newcomb and Soroka. He has since deleted the tweets.

[nsacpi]

expecting a yuge game from Markakis

[goldfly]

we going to get today in? weather is garbage forever in Georgia these days

[Enscheff]

Are we just pushing everyone back a day for rest or what?

Probably

[sturg33]

But why not Fried then?

That's just weird

[clvclv]

DOB's dumbass out here tweeting about Newcomb going on the DL. Then replies to someone asking about it saying "Not trying to be a smartass but did this many people not see the article yesterday about Newcomb going on the 10 day DL and why?"

Doesn't know the difference between Newcomb and Soroka. He has since deleted the tweets.

Expecting a yuge game from DOB.

[Garmel]

DOB's dumbass out here tweeting about Newcomb going on the DL. Then replies to someone asking about it saying "Not trying to be a smartass but did this many people not see the article yesterday about Newcomb going on the 10 day DL and why?"

Doesn't know the difference between Newcomb and Soroka. He has since deleted the tweets.

LOL! That guy is a twat.

[clvclv]

Wisler/bullpen game actually makes the most sense with the iffy weather reports when you think about it actually - don't waste Newcomb/Julio preparation and then potentially have them go 2 or 3 innings.

More importantly you don't give Snitker the opportunity to run them back out there if there's an hour-plus delay early on.

[nsacpi]

was hoping Fried would be given a start to build up his trade value

[thethe]

997573557461901313

Yes thank you

[TheBravos]

It is crazy that when someone gets hurt, we pretty much have another rotation of solid guys who can fill in.

[Orphan Black]

Man I wanted to see Fried start. Oh well.

[UNCBlue012]

997573557461901313

Yes thank you

Crazy. Gohara will be an full-time start soon enough! We'll probably see Fried or Allard in the rotation after that.

We literally don't have enough rotation spots. lol

[Freshmaker]

Are we just pushing everyone back a day for rest or what?

haven't looked to verify this, but on the radio they said that Newcomb has gotten an extra day of rest before all but one start this year

[Enscheff]

But why not Fried then?

That's just weird

Might have something to do with the fact the Marlins have a 94 wRC+ vs LHP, and a much worse 72 wRC+ vs RHers.

Platoons in rotation spots...the newest market inefficiency!!

[thewupk]

Might have something to do with the fact the Marlins have a 94 wRC+ vs LHP, and a much worse 72 wRC+ vs RHers.

Platoons in rotation spots...the newest market inefficiency!!

When you have 20 starters that fit into the 5th starter/AAAA role you can execute this perfectly. Was the Braves plan all along.

[TheBravos]

Man I wanted to see Fried start. Oh well.

I don’t think he will ever see a chance again.

[Managuarantano's Volunteers]

Might have something to do with the fact the Marlins have a 94 wRC+ vs LHP, and a much worse 72 wRC+ vs RHers.

Platoons in rotation spots...the newest market inefficiency!!

Hahaha, I’m pretty sure other teams aren’t taking advantage of this much, so why not the Braves?

[msstate7]

Swanson not in Atlanta, Rome, or Gwinnett lineup. Hope he good

[bravesfanMatt]

Swanson not in Atlanta, Rome, or Gwinnett lineup. Hope he good

serving hot dogs right now..

[bravesfanMatt]

I will start the over reaction... Cy Wisler needs to be out there every 5th day.

[nsacpi]

serving hot dogs right now..

New market inefficiency

[bravesfanMatt]

Wisler needs to be sent down.

[Freshmaker]

serving hot dogs right now..

busy making new ads for his t-shirt line

[msstate7]

serving hot dogs right now..

WTH, dude needs to stay out of the fast food industry. That's my deal!

[bravesfanMatt]

those fastballs look terrible..

[bravesfanMatt]

Marlins...making every pitcher look good.

[nsacpi]

I will start the over reaction... Cy Wisler needs to be out there every 5th day.

extent

[salmagundy]

Did someone say this was goiing to be a BP game for the Braves??

24 pitches in 1st to get 3 Ks. Couldn't put batters away with 2 strikes on them.

[striker42]

Classic Wisler. Okay fastball, great slider, no third pitch

[msstate7]

Did someone say this was goiing to be a BP game for the Braves??

24 pitches in 1st to get 3 Ks. Couldn't put batters away with 2 strikes on them.

3 Ks... I'd say he put em away. Will it continue? Probably not, but he did well

[bravesfanMatt]

Classic Wisler. Okay fastball, great slider, no third pitch

the slider was weird. he has one that sweeps, but doesn't bite and they were just fouling it off.. then he threw a couple that dropped more and they swung over those. Fastball was very meh.. a couple should have been killed. one that was 91 cutting back to Castro was BP fastball.

[bravesfanMatt]

Acuna just missed his pitch..

[Southcack77]

When you have 20 starters that fit into the 5th starter/AAAA role you can execute this perfectly. Was the Braves plan all along.

Three year rebuild that ended with a first place team, great pitching depth and maybe one lineup hole with 50 million to address. Feels good man.

[Carp]

We're hitting the ball hard so far. A good sign.

[nsacpi]

Bout is the only hitter in their lineup Wisler need to show the changeup to.

[mfree80]

Dansby in the house!!!

[Garmel]

I hate Bautista at third.

[mfree80]

I hate Bautista at third.

When can the experiment be over?

[bravesfanMatt]

When can the experiment be over?

Tomorrow maybe..

[cajunrevenge]

Part of me believes AA is just doing Bautista a favor for all his time in Toronto.

[Hawk]

if he is called out here i will lose my ****

[cajunrevenge]

lol at the helmet falling off and hitting Camargo in the head.

[Garmel]

Looks like he's out.

[Tapate50]

Ugh, our luck blows

[USMA76]

This inning is over. The old "replay shows he came off the bag for a millisecond" trick.

[mfree80]

Have we ever won an appeal?

[bravesfanMatt]

easy call..

[mfree80]

NY shows up the umps again...:HeywardWut:

[pfiggy]

if he is called out here i will lose my ****

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[AJonesATL]

NY shows up the umps again...:HeywardWut:

In all seriousness does anyone have our split on challenges this year? It seems like it has to be 90% have not gone our way. It's pretty remarkable.

[msstate7]

This inning is over. The old "replay shows he came off the bag for a millisecond" trick.

The call was right, but I hate those sort of outs via replay. Technically it's right, but garbage nonetheless

[jsebe10]

if he is called out here i will lose my ****

It was stupid for him to even stretch that into a double with Wisler behind him...

[USMA76]

Have we ever won an appeal?

Even though this instance sucks, it's technically correct. The ones that grind my gears are like the calls in the second game of the Chicago series in which an ump blows a call and then the thieves in NY don't have the guts to correct it.

[Hawk]

The call was right, but I hate those sort of outs via replay. Technically it's right, but garbage nonetheless

what about plays at the plate which 'technically' show the runner beating a throw?

[Hawk]

quick inning

[msstate7]

Straily seems to always mow us down

[USMA76]

I hate Bautista at third.

I hate Bautista in a Braves uniform.

[chop2chip]

Thought Acuna connected on that swing. Just missed

[Hawk]

can we use wisler at 3b?

[msstate7]

Could good spot starts like these by Wisler maybe allow us to flip him and sims for someone like Jed Lowrie? Jed is in last year of contract

[bravesfanMatt]

Could good spot starts like these by Wisler maybe allow us to flip him and sims for someone like Jed Lowrie? Jed is in last year of contract

As long as we keep spot starting him against horrible offenses.

[Managuarantano's Volunteers]

C’mon Chip, you should know to compare Freddie vs himself and not the MLB with respect to shifts

[bravesfanMatt]

year to year baby...

[pfiggy]

Let's go Tyler, don't put any pressure on Joey Bad, just git 'er done son.

[bravesfanMatt]

other teams are laughing at us with BUSTista in there..

[UNCBlue012]

Please cut him

[CrimsonCowboy]

Bautista is washed up

[bravesfanMatt]

pick him up Jo-gun..

[USMA76]

other teams are laughing at us with BUSTista in there..

He really does suck donkey huevos.

[msstate7]

other teams are laughing at us with BUSTista in there..

AA's boy...

[Enscheff]

Is the experiment over yet?

[Hawk]

Balls are just dying in CF tonight

[UNCBlue012]

Always nice when you have an easy scoring opportunity against a meh pitcher against a horrible team.

[bravesfanMatt]

at least bat him 9th.. Bustista that is..

is there a 10th spot he can hit in?

[AerchAngel]

Swanson up, Joey "Colossal" Busts walking papers and a retirement home.

[Carp]

Camargo looking better at the plate lately. Smoked that one, just didn't get enough of it.

[bravesfanMatt]

This experiment should have never happened. however, it has not hurt us too bad...BUT IT NEEDS TO END TONIGHT!!!!!

[msstate7]

Camargo looking better at the plate lately. Smoked that one, just didn't get enough of it.

Put em at 3b

[bravesfanMatt]

Put em at 3b

I will take you at 3b if that means bustista can go away..

[USMA76]

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this home plate ump the same one that blew the call in the Braves favor in the marathon game against the Pirates a few years ago?

[Hawk]

Meals

[msstate7]

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this home plate ump the same one that blew the call in the Braves favor in the marathon game against the Pirates a few years ago?

Lol... no idea if he is or not, but you gotta let that go

[USMA76]

Wisler walks Rojas on a 3-3 count. This ump in the past five minutes missed ball four to Flowers and strike three to Rojas. The CS makes the second one moot, though.

[mfree80]

Challenge it... You'll win!

[USMA76]

Lol... no idea if he is or not, but you gotta let that go

No that was an instance in which a bad call appeared to go our way.

[Hawk]

No that was an instance in which a bad call appeared to go our way.

Apparently it was a kind of deal with the devil gone wrong

[USMA76]

Apparently it was a kind of deal with the devil gone wrong

It sure seems like we've been on the wrong end of the preponderance of bad calls since the advent of replay.

[bravesfanMatt]

We have become boring.. I hate this team../s

[UNCBlue012]

Oh yay, so glad we are now down.

[USMA76]

.162 average notwithstanding, I'd take Prado back. I think Seitzer could get him turned around.

[striker42]

Two pitches don't work a third time through

[UNCBlue012]

Lol. Wisler is back. For whatever reason, we aren’t very good at home

[USMA76]

About to be down three against a pitcher we can't seem to figure out.

[striker42]

Not getting to Straily is kind of embarrassing.

[USMA76]

Not getting to Straily is kind of embarrassing.

Actually, it's even worse than that.

[mfree80]

Not getting to Straily is kind of embarrassing.

This is a lot bigger deal than Wisler giving up a couple.

[msstate7]

Yeah, I'm not blaming wisler for this game. He has done a good job. We are getting punked by a garbage pitcher. This is on our position players, not wisler

[sturg33]

Lol. Wisler is back. For whatever reason, we aren’t very good at home

Clearly not trying

[UNCBlue012]

That’s my ace

[bravesfanMatt]

I think Maddon is very good in these games... I seriously doubt Wisler starts this inning if Maddon was skipper. Start fresh with Gohard..

[UNCBlue012]

Clearly not trying ah, how’d you know?

[USMA76]

Nice work by Gohara. That had all the makings of at least a three run deficit.

[EstebanBugatti]

Its time to just let Gohara start.

[USMA76]

ah, how’d you know?

It's taken on a life of its own, hasn't it?

[UNCBlue012]

It's taken on a life of its own, hasn't it? yeah, that’s an understatement. Luckily, I’ve always said it as a joke and think it’s hilarious!

[Hawk]

hmm, did that hit the screen first?

[jpack1]

That’s not a catch

[msstate7]

When we face straily, snit should start as many backups as possible. No one has the struggles vs this guy as the braves

[USMA76]

That’s not a catch

Good luck getting it overturned.

[striker42]

A correct call. I've just had a stroke

[USMA76]

Good luck getting it overturned.

I'm shocked.

[jsebe10]

Anybody wanna hit this god damn scrub tonight?!?!

[Managuarantano's Volunteers]

Not tie call goes to the Braves

[striker42]

Straily gets shelled by every other team

[GeorgiaGirl]

When we face straily, snit should start as many backups as possible. No one has the struggles vs this guy as the braves

Albies has looked awful today after his first AB, but he's 4-10 with 2 HR against him. Not sure about others in the lineup though.

This has been looking like a repeat of the Giants series though in this game. Braves 0-3 on barrels tonight.

[Hawk]

i had to chuckle at that overturned call being so utterly inconsequential; 2 outs, 0-2 count, down 2-0 with nobody on.

[Hawk]

yazzz luiz

[bravesfanMatt]

Go-hard slider is on point... can't locate his fastball though..

[msstate7]

PH for Bautista? Kinda playing, kinda not

[bravesfanMatt]

Bustista going to get some bloop stupid double and get another week of playing against RHP..

[msstate7]

F'n pathetic

[GeorgiaGirl]

Truth is the Braves probably should have more barrels vs Straily but there's some voodoo sh*t going on when none of your barrels are working and Starlin Castro gets a bloop double.

Now that Ender got out, this is going to be an easy 1-2-3.

[msstate7]

Hey braves, stop swinging early! You dummies aren't hitting crap

[Hawk]

rojas has a gun

[UNCBlue012]

Strailey is truly a bad pitcher. Come on, guys.

[jsebe10]

Fckn embarrassing....

These are games that we need to take advantage of...anything short of a sweep of these cunts is inexcusable.

[striker42]

We've actually crushed a ton of balls off Straily. Absolutely nothing is falling in. I think he's a wizard.

[bravesfanMatt]

Glad Jo-gun was out really.. rather see Gohard go one more and then start clean with a pinch hitter.

but you might see a double switch and take Joey Bust out and move pitcher spot to 7th.

[GeorgiaGirl]

We've actually crushed a ton of balls off Straily. Absolutely nothing is falling in. I think he's a wizard.

Another barrel, another out with Camargo.

[msstate7]

Miami run in 3,2,1...

[bravesfanMatt]

why Moylan.. good grief..

[TheBravos]

Just loving the fact that we seem to be cursed on our own field...

[msstate7]

Good job, Moylan

[bravesfanMatt]

I don't know Peter and I don't love Peter..

[bravesfanMatt]

Now lets make Peter a winner boys. Big 8th here..:tchop:

[nsacpi]

pen has been lights out the past four weeks

[msstate7]

What an embarrassing performance

[USMA76]

After the blown scoring chance, our offense has been at absolute whimper.

[msstate7]

After the blown scoring chance, our offense has been at absolute whimper.

Thanks AA for Bautista

[UNCBlue012]

Thanks AA for Bautista Flowers didn’t really help...

[USMA76]

He looked out to me, honestly.

[Managuarantano's Volunteers]

Ain’t no way this gets overturned, tie goes to the not-Braves

[bravesfanMatt]

no way..

[Tapate50]

Jesus H.

This is getting ridiculous

[Freshmaker]

and of course he's out...ugh

[CrimsonCowboy]

Shocker

[mfree80]

and of course he's out...ugh

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[bravesfanMatt]

I can agree with this.. don't think there was enough to over turn that...

[Coredor]

I am starting to hate the MLB office. We have enemies in that building.

[Hawk]

I can agree with this.. don't think there was enough to over turn that...

lol

[DirkPiggler]

Why even bother challenging?

This has to be part of the punishment for Coppygate.

[Managuarantano's Volunteers]

I can agree with this.. don't think there was enough to over turn that...
broadcast showed a good angle of the ball not fully being in the glove imo

[striker42]

They seriously need to fire everyone involved in instant replay. Start with the jackass Joe Torre.

[FreemanFan]

How much longer will this continue before a serious investigation is launched into the obvious bias in NY against the Braves? They don't even look at the plays anymore. They just rule against us.

[Hawk]

They seriously need to fire everyone involved in instant replay. Start with the jackass Joe Torre.

It definitely needs to be rehabilitated. There are some glaring issues with the system they have in place.

[striker42]

MLB has this insane idea that admitting an umpire kicked a call somehow ruins the whole sport. It's why replay doesn't work. It's why they tried to sell the infield fly as correct. It's why guys like West and Bucknor haven't been fired.

...and that protection of umpires makes so many games unwatchable.

[DirkPiggler]

Once again, umpires should not be the ones looking over fellow umpires' shoulder. Put a former player, a reporter, or a stripper in the booth and you'd get a more accurate, more objective decision.

[bravesfanMatt]

I want Joey Bust up with game on line please....

[USMA76]

The current replay construct is "clear and convincing evidence that the call made on the field was incorrect." While Acuna may well have been safe, I just didn't see any angles that met the above criteria.

[msstate7]

Glad we didn't use Swanson tonight...

[GeorgiaGirl]

Oh would you look at that, hard hit, another out.

This stadium must have also been built on an Indian burial ground as this is sorcery.

[Freshmaker]

I am starting to hate the MLB office. We have enemies in that building.

still punishing us over Coppygate

[bravesfanMatt]

The current replay construct is "clear and convincing evidence that the call made on the field was incorrect." While Acuna may well have been safe, I just didn't see any angles that met the above criteria.

This.. I hate it and I would say safe.. but I would not have over turned that..

[jsebe10]

Flowers double play coming.

[bravesfanMatt]

Glad we didn't use Swanson tonight...

DL still..

[mfree80]

This.. I hate it and I would say safe.. but I would not have over turned that..

If the purpose of replay is to get it right it has to be overturned. There are obviously other agendas at work in the replay system.

[jpack1]

Probably the worst performance of the year. Just pitiful

[UNCBlue012]

Seriously, Flowers? He singlehandedly destroyed two potential rallies.

[GeorgiaGirl]

If the purpose of replay is to get it right it has to be overturned. There are obviously other agendas at work in the replay system.

I wouldn't say that.

While the Braves were hard on luck lately, traditionally the Braves are a popular team around the majors.

I highly doubt they're trying to f*** the Braves. I think this system is just turrible.

[Coredor]

Coppygate is part of why I hate the yankee trash in that office. They didn’t mind making an example of us.

still punishing us over Coppygate

[Managuarantano's Volunteers]

The current replay construct is "clear and convincing evidence that the call made on the field was incorrect." While Acuna may well have been safe, I just didn't see any angles that met the above criteria.

But the Cubs game...and Inciarte being called out at first like twice as an overturn? I don’t think the MLB is very consistent with that

[striker42]

If it's possible to have a negative BABIP, we had one tonight. Half the outs we made we're rockets right at guys.

Combine ridiculous bad luck with even more ridiculous officiating and you get a shutout.

[msstate7]

DL still..

Could've activated him. We felt he was ready or he'd have been at Rome

[UNCBlue012]

Glad we didn't use Swanson tonight... He better be back tomorrow. We desperately miss the bat at the bottom of the lineup.

It’s sad because Wisler wasn’t even bad, the offense just sucked against a sucky pitcher.

[Hawk]

If the purpose of replay is to get it right it has to be overturned.

Yup. This.

There are some plays, like the ball trapped against the screen into the catcher's mitt, which are given an almost absurd amount of scrutiny.

Then plays which actually can be determined, definitively, aren't given the same treatment and ultimately tossed into the "not clear evidence" heap.

There's no consistency and it's really frustrating to watch.

[bravesfanMatt]

If the purpose of replay is to get it right it has to be overturned. There are obviously other agendas at work in the replay system.

The purpose of the replay is to get it right under the rules set forth.. the rule is if the replay doesn't show enough evidence, then the call on the field stands. If you don't like that, then I will agree with you. But that play was a tie and therefore the call needs to stand.. if he was called safe, it would not have been overturned. If that was a Miami runner and they over turned that, everyone would still be bitching here. Take the tomahawk off the chest and you can clearly see that it was essentially a tie...

[bravesfanMatt]

Could've activated him. We felt he was ready or he'd have been at Rome


with Joey Bust starting against the RHP, I assume this was one last showcase to see if he gets his walking papers... I hope tonight he can clear his locker out for good.

[mfree80]

with Joey Bust starting against the RHP, I assume this was one last showcase to see if he gets his walking papers... I hope tonight he can clear his locker out for good.

This.... X 100

[GeorgiaGirl]

If it's possible to have a negative BABIP, we had one tonight. Half the outs we made we're rockets right at guys.

Combine ridiculous bad luck with even more ridiculous officiating and you get a shutout.

You can check statcast on BABIP for games I think, I'm not sure how though but to my eyes it was EXACTLY like the weekend series with the Giants the last home weekend series. Maybe not as bad but close. I'll try to delve in and see if I can dig it up.

[striker42]

Camargo has been so disappointing. He had a golden opportunity to show what he had and face planted.

[mfree80]

The purpose of the replay is to get it right under the rules set forth.. the rule is if the replay doesn't show enough evidence, then the call on the field stands. If you don't like that, then I will agree with you. But that play was a tie and therefore the call needs to stand.. if he was called safe, it would not have been overturned. If that was a Miami runner and they over turned that, everyone would still be bitching here. Take the tomahawk off the chest and you can clearly see that it was essentially a tie...

The technology is so good that they can freeze it and eliminate ties. Freeze it at the right moment, and it becomes clear and convincing. I guess I didn't see the question on this one, or a couple of others over the past week or so. The cumulative effect of multiple costly replay rulings has started to wear on me.

They have the technology to get it right.

[TheBravos]

1-5 at home...what a shame.

[msstate7]

Camargo has been so disappointing. He had a golden opportunity to show what he had and face planted.

Before tonight's 1-3, he was hitting .193, but BABIP was .220. His obp was .343 though

[Tapate50]

Before tonight's 1-3, he was hitting .193, but BABIP was .220. His obp was .343 though

He hasn’t been good, but he sat on the bench for the first month waiting for regular abs.

Still think he’s the temporary answer at third

[CJ9]

When Dansby is activated, it has to be one of Bautista or Culberson who is gone. I just can’t imagine any other way to do it unless they send Wisler back down. Even then, you’d need another reliever at some point soon since Gohara likely starts Wednesday.

[msstate7]

He hasn’t been good, but he sat on the bench for the first month waiting for regular abs.

Still think he’s the temporary answer at third

I'd slide em to 3b once we activate dansby tomorrow. Give camargo a good month of play

[GeorgiaGirl]

It's not BABIP, but....

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/gamefeed?game_pk=530069&type=exit_velocity&chart_view=pitch&chart_type=sbp&inning=&count=&batter_hand=&pitcher_hand=&filter=

Pretty fitting that the hardest hit ball by Braves hitters, ends the game (poor LA though lol). I can't get it to work correctly but multiple high HP% in plays were outs for the Braves today.

[msstate7]

When Dansby is activated, it has to be one of Bautista or Culberson who is gone. I just can’t imagine any other way to do it unless they send Wisler back down. Even then, you’d need another reliever at some point soon since Gohara likely starts Wednesday.

Before dansby went on dl, Preston was Gwinnett bound... could he him again

[bravesfanMatt]

anyone other than joey Bust and I will question AA intelligence as a GM..

[msstate7]

anyone other than joey Bust and I will question AA intelligence as a GM..

Get ready... JB will start Sunday vs Chen

[Garmel]

It makes me wonder what would have happened if that one Flower at bat had been called ball four like it should of. We would have had bases loaded with no outs with Inciarte coming up.

[bravesfanMatt]

It makes me wonder what would have happened if that one Flower at bat had been called ball four like it should of. We would have had bases loaded with no outs with Inciarte coming up.

that would have helped.. but Ender didn't look great and Joey Bust was still lurking.

[Garmel]

that would have helped.. but Ender didn't look great and Joey Bust was still lurking.

That's true.

[smootness]

You can check statcast on BABIP for games I think, I'm not sure how though but to my eyes it was EXACTLY like the weekend series with the Giants the last home weekend series. Maybe not as bad but close. I'll try to delve in and see if I can dig it up.

You don’t need Statcast, BABIP is pretty easily calculated.

[sturg33]

Gohara starting Wed. Not sure what that means for Soroka

[Carp]

Camargo has been so disappointing. He had a golden opportunity to show what he had and face planted.

He has been disappointing, but also very unlucky as evidenced by his .220 BABIP. His walk rate is up. His isoSLG is also up. Those are signs that he's actually improving, the stats just aren't there because he's hitting into some bad luck. Just tonight, he hit the ball hard every at bat tonight, but right at a defender each time and the RF made an amazing play to gun him out at 2b on his only hit. He just missed a grand slam by about 10-15 feet in his 2nd at bat.

I don't think he'll ever be a star, but I do think the bat will play good enough to be a starter. Like a Josh Harrison type of player.

[msstate7]

Phillies lost too. Still in 1st. Let's pound these clowns the next 2 days

[msstate7]

Gohara starting Wed. Not sure what that means for Soroka

What was his velocity last night? I watching state vs Florida and braves on split screen and pretty much missed all the details on both games

[msstate7]

On the season, wisler is 0.2 fWAR with 3 starts. Julio is at 0.2 fWAR with 9 starts.

[bravesguy]

What was his velocity last night? I watching state vs Florida and braves on split screen and pretty much missed all the details on both games


He was hitting 95 on his FB.

[msstate7]

He was hitting 95 on his FB.

Easing back up then. Good

[thewupk]

Camargo has an xWOBA of 344 compared to a WOBA of 307. He's been fairly unlucky.

[msstate7]

Camargo has an xWOBA of 344 compared to a WOBA of 307. He's been fairly unlucky.

I can't read French. Should those numbers match?

[thethe]

Camargo has an xWOBA of 344 compared to a WOBA of 307. He's been fairly unlucky.

Give it time. He will be fine

[thewupk]

I can't read French. Should those numbers match?

xWOBA is expected WOBA. Meaning it's what his WOBA should be based on exit velocity, launch angle, etc. WOBA is just based on what actually has happened. When you see a large difference between the two then the hitter has generally been lucky or unlucky. Not perfect by any means but Johan should have better results for how he's swung the bat.

[TheBravos]

Gohara starting Wed. Not sure what that means for Soroka

That was my question. Honestly, I was really surprised at the speed of his call up. Wouldn’t hurt him to go back down for a while until the trade deadline.

[TheBravos]

On the season, wisler is 0.2 fWAR with 3 starts. Julio is at 0.2 fWAR with 9 starts.

Wisler did well. Don’t get me wrong...he isn’t the future here, but I do think he could be a #4/#5 easily for some team. Our offense (or lack there of), killed us last night.

I would like to see a Folty, Newk, Gohara, Soroka, Allard rotation at the deadline. That won’t happen of course (unless we are out of contention). We will not win it all this year, so why not give the young guys experience. They will keep the vets though unless we implode.

[msstate7]

Does wisler have any value to this point? What could we realistically land for wisler?

[TheBravos]

Does wisler have any value to this point? What could we realistically land for wisler?

Probably a good reliever? If I am a average/bad team on a budget and have poor starting pitching, I would do that easily to nab a controllable (cheap) rotation peice. Wisler would be a average 4/5 guy easily.

[Carp]

I imagine he still has enough value to bring in a quality reliever, may be even a high leverage reliever on an expiring contract.

[AerchAngel]

Why has Joey Busts haven't been DFA and Swanson up? He is costing us games.

[GeorgiaGirl]

Why has Joey Busts haven't been DFA and Swanson up? He is costing us games.

Swanson has been activated.

Unfortunately, AA is not willing to let go on Joey Busts yet. The only move made was to option Wisler out.

[Freshmaker]

I imagine he still has enough value to bring in a quality reliever, may be even a high leverage reliever on an expiring contract.

Wisler for Britton - get it done AA!

[UNCBlue012]

Does wisler have any value to this point? What could we realistically land for wisler? probably more than some think and much less than people want to hear. He’d be a great arm in a package deal. Two of his three starts this year has been solid, so no complaints.

[msstate7]

Swanson has been activated.

Unfortunately, AA is not willing to let go on Joey Busts yet. The only move made was to option Wisler out.

Despite my game thread rants, I'm ok with giving Bautista a little more time. His babip is .143, walk rate is good, but the 30% k has to drop

[Garmel]

Despite my game thread rants, I'm ok with giving Bautista a little more time. His babip is .143, walk rate is good, but the 30% k has to drop

He might be okay as a bench player. I don't want to see him starting at third though.

[salmagundy]

He might be okay as a bench player. I don't want to see him starting at third though.

I don't even want to see him as a bench piece. What good is he. Use him to PH in a pressure situation, bases loaded and less than 2 outs, and he fails(2 Ks in 2 ABs). Need an RBI, don't count on him, 9 ABs w/RISP 1 hit(2 RBIs+ 2RBIs on BBs/SF and 4 Ks), Don't even consider him as a defensive replacement.

Experiment over IMO.