GDT: 6/04/2018 @ Padres

[UNCBlue012]

I figured I'd go ahead and get a jumpstart on this thread since the game is going to be late and I'll likely be in bed since I'm an early-riser.

This road trip has been absolute murder for the Braves for years it seems. I'd love to change that tonight!

[bravesfanMatt]

Based on our record on Monday and after a walk off. I am not holding out much hope.

[The Chosen One]

I always used to look forward to San Diego games under Bobby. We always had some fun series and played really well there.

[nsacpi]

Based on our record on Monday and after a walk off. I am not holding out much hope.

yeah...walk offs seem to guarantee a loss the next day...plus the long trip with no travel day

[GovClintonTyree]

yeah...walk offs seem to guarantee a loss the next day...plus the long trip with no travel day

It would make sense to send Julion along one day early.

[jpx7]

yeah...walk offs seem to guarantee a loss the next day...plus the long trip with no travel day

But the combination means less time to party, so maybe they’ll cancel each other out?

[nsacpi]

But the combination means less time to party, so maybe they’ll cancel each other out?

I think the party was on the flight

[CyYoung31]

They’ll probably be pouting about being hungover.

[Nerfherders]

I figured I'd go ahead and get a jumpstart on this thread since the game is going to be late and I'll likely be in bed since I'm an early-riser.

This road trip has been absolute murder for the Braves for years it seems. I'd love to change that tonight!

You'd be right about that. The west coast (pacific time) road trips (or those portions of road trips) have been brutal the last five years. We've had one winning road trip out of our last 12 trips out west, including two 0-fers, one of which was an 0-8.

Overall, we are 23-51 on the west coast in the last 5 years, good for a .311 winning percentage - compared to a .472 overall. Even by season, our WP on the west coast is much lower compared to overall, except last year which was right in line - .450 vs. .444. Record by year:

13: 4-10 (96-66)
14: 2-12 (79-83)
15: 4-9 (67-95)
16: 4-9 (68-93)
17: 9-11 (72-90)

[Ozzie Swanson]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/De4UTcfX4AIZ4T_.jpg:large

Very happy to see Snit move Ender down in the lineup.

[jpx7]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/De4UTcfX4AIZ4T_.jpg:large

Very happy to see Snit move Ender down in the lineup.

Would rather have Markakis first, Albies (or even Camargo, given his improved bb-rate this year) second, the catcher cleaning up (if slow, at least fewer right-side GBs than Kakes), and then Camargo(/Albies) fifth. But baby steps.

[nsacpi]

expecting a yuge game from Inciarte

[jpx7]

expecting a yuge game from Inciarte

I’m expecting a yuge series from Ender.

[PurpleBrave]

Finally moved the guy with the good obp up

[jpx7]

Markakis
Camargo
Freeman
Albies
Catcher du jour
Inciarte
Not Acuña
Bae
Throwing Guy

or slide Inciarte back to ninth, where he seemed to like it, and bump the remainder up.

[thewupk]

Julio really sitting at 86?

[Orphan Black]

Julio really sitting at 86?

pretty much

[msstate7]

Julio really sitting at 86?

He can reach back for 87 when needed

[thethe]

85mph cheeeeeeeze

[thewupk]

85mph cheeeeeeeze

gotta extent him

[thethe]

gotta extent him

Thinking Sherz or Kershaw money?

[GeorgiaGirl]

Albies machine permanently broken.

[sturg33]

Albies machine permanently broken.

Not sure if you know what permanent means

[thethe]

Albies machine permanently broken.

Eh, hit the ball real well in that ab

[thethe]

Offense kind of sucks lately

[GeorgiaGirl]

Not sure if you know what permanent means

I guarantee that he's a true talent .200-.220 bat unless he changes his approach back and .200-.220 is permanently broken.

[msstate7]

This is probably a good time to go to bed before this game gets me upset. State won today and om lost... gotta keep these good vibes

[Carp]

That was a balk and a half. I don't know how he gets away with that pick off move.

[jsebe10]

This is probably a good time to go to bed before this game gets me upset. State won today and om lost... gotta keep these good vibes

Nobody gives a **** about State or anything Mississippi for that matter.

[Carp]

Not sure if you know what permanent means

She is the same person that said we were going to trade Dansbae last year and that Folty has no out pitch. No clue.

[Orphan Black]

How are they seeing the speeds on the gun and not being concerned?

[jpx7]

Well my ynot’s already shot. Never bet on Julion.

In fact, it might be him, and not McCarthy, that sees the convenient dl stint when Soroka returns.

[thewupk]

Julio sucks

[thethe]

Wonder when the braves decide to just move on from julio? Love him and enjoyed watching him bmbut we have so many options now

[msstate7]

Nobody gives a **** about State or anything Mississippi for that matter.

Such temper... please don't kick your dog

[thewupk]

Wonder when the braves decide to just move on from julio? Love him and enjoyed watching him bmbut we have so many options now

This offseason

[sturg33]

Coppy not trading Julio in 2016 due to needing an "ace" opening up SunTrust was his worst move

[TheBravos]

Wonder when the braves decide to just move on from julio? Love him and enjoyed watching him bmbut we have so many options now

Folty, Newk, Soroka, Gohara, Allard/Fried,Sanchez ...Julio and McCarthy just too inconsistent for vets with decent pay. Hit or miss with those guys.

[bravesfanforlife88]

Coppy not trading Julio in 2016 due to needing an "ace" opening up SunTrust was his worst move

It truly is unfortunate that Teheran has regressed this much in two seasons. Can’t even throw 90mph anymore.... he is our worst pitcher in the rotation right now

Has to be gone in the off-season

[thethe]

Trash...I'm going to bed. Not fun to lose with me pitchers

[Deester11]

Folty, Newk, Soroka, Gohara, Allard/Fried,Sanchez ...Julio and McCarthy just too inconsistent for vets with decent pay. Hit or miss with those guys.More to this than the radar. This is brutal and I'm his biggest fan. Wow.

[bravesnumberone]

Something obviously bothering him. Need to send him to the showers for the night.

[AerchAngel]

Something obviously bothering him. Need to send him to the showers for the night.

He needs to go on the DL and find out what is really wrong with him, he lost a lot of velo.

[jpx7]

If I thought Gohara were more stretched out, I’d say this is a game to let him take over for Teheran early.

[Braves1976]

Does he have a blister issue?

[mfree80]

Does he have a blister issue?

Looks like maybe a blister...

[Braves1976]

Braves look dead tonight.

[Braves1976]

Looks like maybe a blister...

That is what i thought by how he was acting.

[TheBravos]

My bet...with the velo decrease each year...TJ is in his near future. He needs to be moved at the deadline.

[bravesnumberone]

They always look dead in this park. One of those ridiculous baseball things. They play like garbage against a garbage team in this park.

[msstate7]

Braves look dead tonight.

Without actually looking at the numbers, it seems we always suck going west. Looks like we are off to another trip to forget

[bravesfanMatt]

relax everyone... just take a nap until the 7th, then we will start scoring..

[bravesfanMatt]

My bet...with the velo decrease each year...TJ is in his near future. He needs to be moved at the deadline.

He has no value..

[bravesfanMatt]

I just witnessed an Ozzie walk..

[Braves1976]

terrible ab by Camargo

[TheBravos]

He has no value..

If he has no value, then we don’t need to be paying him 12 mil a year with better options...give him away.

We could get high leverage bull pen arm almost certainly.

[AerchAngel]

Playing down to competition is not good.

His ERA is horrible and we can't do anything?

[GeorgiaGirl]

IDK why, but even better Braves teams have never done diddly in San Diego. I think 2013 may have been swept there.

[TheBravos]

Guys, they are spent. Came off an emotional long series and then had to go to the west coast. It feels like 1am to them. Why they aren’t given a day off for that I’ll never know. Doesn’t surprise me that they are lifeless.

[CyYoung31]

WTF

[CyYoung31]

Clayton Richard still exists?

[thethe]

Obviously neck and flowers have the best abs.

I know the numbers suggest otherwise but it doesn't feel like freddie is having a great year

[CyYoung31]

Culberson = Super Sub

[thethe]

Man...how stupid are we calling for Culberson head 3 weeks ago?

[CyYoung31]

Obviously neck and flowers have the best abs.

I know the numbers suggest otherwise but it doesn't feel like freddie is having a great year

:facepalm:

[jpx7]

lol Culbs

Might have to start calling Bae "Ersatz Culberson".

[thethe]

Damn, thought bae had that one

[CyYoung31]

Dammit. How did that not go?

[jpx7]

Sounds like quite a few Braves fans in the park tonight, btw.

[Garmel]

Damn it! Dansby just missed it.

[CyYoung31]

Sounds like quite a few Braves fans in the park tonight, btw.

There are quite a few Braves fans in the park, btw.

[jpx7]

Damn, thought bae had that one

Dammit. How did that not go?

Looked out off the bat. 50/50 crowd would've gone wild.

[bravesfanMatt]

Obviously neck and flowers have the best abs.

I know the numbers suggest otherwise but it doesn't feel like freddie is having a great year

kind of creepy you know this.

[jpx7]

There are quite a few Braves fans in the park, btw.

Yea I definitely think quite a few of the seats in the stadium have Braves fans seated in them, btw.

[thethe]

Just absurd

[bravesnumberone]

Batting practice.

[jsebe10]

Get him away from this fckn team.

[bravesfanMatt]

Is Stewart available to pitch tonight?

[jpx7]

Just absurd

That's on the Lieutenant for only driving to the warning-track last half-inning.

[CrimsonCowboy]

Can Carter Stewart pitch in Teheran’s place now?

[thethe]

That's on the Lieutenant for only driving to the warning-track last half-inning.

Teheran in deservedly upset

[bravesnumberone]

I mean...at least they're solo shots?

[CyYoung31]

It seems like for a decade the Padres have consistently fielded a lineup of people I’ve never heard of, and never hear from again, minus the token “star” like Quentin or Hosmer in the middle of the lineup.

[thethe]

Somehow Julio is only at 73 pitches after 4. Maybe we can get 2 more innings out of him.

[bravesfanMatt]

Can Carter Stewart pitch in Teheran’s place now?

already trade marked this joke.. you owe me a nickle..

[jsebe10]

Watching the Padres broadcast tonight...these liberal campaign ads are hilarious!!

[msstate7]

Somehow Julio is only at 73 pitches after 4. Maybe we can get 2 more innings out of him.

Cut em... get 2 more innings... you're a whirlwind

[GeorgiaGirl]

Like I said.

Albies machine broke. For good.

[jpx7]

Like I said.

Albies machine broke. For good.

Not sure that PA advances your point, given how well-struck it was.

[jsebe10]

Like I said.

Albies machine broke. For good.

He will be ok...just not bouncing his way right now. He honestly needs to be dropped in the lineup...

[thethe]

Not sure that PA advances your point, given how well-struck it was.

He had too barreled balls and a walk. Good game for albies

[AerchAngel]

Julio is Pete Rose, he has something on this game.

[bravesnumberone]

Ridiculous that they let him stay in this long.

[CrimsonCowboy]

already trade marked this joke.. you owe me a nickle..

Put it on my tab:icon_biggrin:

[AerchAngel]

<prays for a 30 day DL>


please please please

[Garmel]

Gohara's fastball isn't very fast tonight.

[msstate7]

Gohara's fastball isn't very fast tonight.

Is Richard in his normal range?

[Garmel]

Is Richard in his normal range?

That I don't know.

[thewupk]

getting beat by a scrub team

[atl717]

Gohara has lost 5 mph on his fastball. Why is he even pitching? He's not healthy.

[jpx7]

Gohara doesn't look ready to be pitching yet.

[thewupk]

Gohara has lost 5 mph on his fastball. Why is he even pitching? He's not healthy.

he's overweight

[GeorgiaGirl]

Gohara has lost 5 mph on his fastball. Why is he even pitching? He's not healthy.

He just got back from Brazil.

But this is a very bad start in a park that has been a nightmare for even better Braves teams. It'll be surprising if the Padres don't sweep this series and undo the work the Braves did against Washington.

[bravesfanMatt]

not a fan of Gohard still pitching... he needs some time to condition and get his stuff back..

[atl717]

he's overweight

He's always been fat. Don't think being fat costs him velocity.

[Deester11]

At least Gohara is throwing in the 90's amirite?

[AerchAngel]

Going to bed.

[Ozzie Swanson]

He just got back from Brazil.

But this is a very bad start in a park that has been a nightmare for even better Braves teams. It'll be surprising if the Padres don't sweep this series and undo the work the Braves did against Washington.

You have to be the queen of terrible hot takes and overreactions.

[thewupk]

I guess Gohard is the lamb tonight

[GeorgiaGirl]

He's always been fat. Don't think being fat costs him velocity.

Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure he's healthy. The huge innings increase likely hurt him badly last year.

[thewupk]

ERA is done for the season now

[CrimsonCowboy]

This is just all around bad.

[bravesfanMatt]

not sure why Gohard didn't make a rehab start after been out for two weeks. Clear from the first batter the guy only had a fastball and could hardly locate that. Now we are going to burn our entire pen

[CyYoung31]

You have to be the queen of terrible hot takes and overreactions.

Add conjecture to that list.

[GovClintonTyree]

Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure he's healthy. The huge innings increase likely hurt him badly last year.

You think he spent the last week eating broiled fish and working out at the gym? Or hammering beers and eating plantains?

They shouldn't have immediately activated him. But he's not wrecked forever.

[msstate7]

We're getting the hell beat out of us. If we aren't gonna give Markakis, inciarte, Albies, or FF a day off, at least sit a couple for the rest of this game. I think we are fatigued

[GovClintonTyree]

Like I said.

Albies machine broke. For good.

Jesus Christ, can you give it a rest? He was never going to slug .700. They're getting him out, he's got some adjustments to make. My bet is he will.

[GovClintonTyree]

We're getting the hell beat out of us. If we aren't gonna give Markakis, inciarte, Albies, or FF a day off, at least sit a couple for the rest of this game. I think we are fatigued

No question. You're gonna have stinkers from time to time. Let the bench finish it off and go get some rest. Come back tomorrow. There's 162 of these.

[GovClintonTyree]

not sure why Gohard didn't make a rehab start after been out for two weeks. Clear from the first batter the guy only had a fastball and could hardly locate that. Now we are going to burn our entire pen

Fat SOB couldn't give us an inning. Pitiful.

[msstate7]

If I were AA, I would not be happy with this performance from gohara. Send him to AAA for a few weeks, and bring back fried for long man role

[jpx7]

If I were AA, I would not be happy with this performance from gohara. Send him to AAA for a few weeks, and bring back fried for long man role

If I were AA, I wouldn’t have activated a young pitcher straight off bereavement leave who hasn’t had a chance to pitch much this year as it is.

[bravesfanMatt]

If I were AA, I wouldn’t have activated a young pitcher straight off bereavement leave who hasn’t had a chance to pitch much this year as it is.

yeah, this is on AA for putting him on the big club in the first place... you made Soroka pitch in Rome after a 2 week stint, yet you let the over weight guy who hasn't pitch much this year go straight to the big club... even for the pen, you still need to see if he has any major league pitches.

[Deester11]

Jesus Christ, can you give it a rest? He was never going to slug .700. They're getting him out, he's got some adjustments to make. My bet is he will.

Just Smh...:Wall: GeorgiaGirl

[msstate7]

yeah, this is on AA for putting him on the big club in the first place... you made Soroka pitch in Rome after a 2 week stint, yet you let the over weight guy who hasn't pitch much this year go straight to the big club... even for the pen, you still need to see if he has any major league pitches.

Someone here said we promoted gohara to control his diet. Whoever said that could have been right... seems like you could control what he eats a little more in Atlanta

[bravesfanMatt]

Someone here said we promoted gohara to control his diet. Whoever said that could have been right... seems like you could control what he eats a little more in Atlanta

I said that.. but really you can hire a personal trainer to shadow his ass in AAA

[GeorgiaGirl]

Jesus Christ, can you give it a rest? He was never going to slug .700. They're getting him out, he's got some adjustments to make. My bet is he will.

And the adjustment will be...

Get back on top, and not hit 1 more HR this year. At all.

Otherwise, we'll be saying hello to Ozzie Albies, .200-.220 bat.

[jpx7]

Psyched we finally got to see Sam Freeman in a game.

[jpx7]

I said that.. but really you can hire a personal trainer to shadow his ass in AAA

Big shadow, though: lots of ground to cover.

[bravesfanMatt]

I am still here Braves..

[Enscheff]

Jesus Christ, can you give it a rest? He was never going to slug .700. They're getting him out, he's got some adjustments to make. My bet is he will.

Hey genius, what's your take on Albies' power now that his HR/FB rate has predictably plummeted?

Have any more brilliant points to make about any other player's power?

[UNCBlue012]

Well, this was most definitely a horrible game against an even more horrible offense lol but, it’s over and we’ve gotta push forward!

[Tapate50]

We are like 13-2 at Petco our last few years . Brutal

[Super]

is allard's ceiling clayton richard?

[UNCBlue012]

is allard's ceiling clayton richard?

Clayton Kershaw, tbh.

[bravesfanMatt]

Newk needs to avenge us tonight

[GovClintonTyree]

And the adjustment will be...

Get back on top, and not hit 1 more HR this year. At all.

Otherwise, we'll be saying hello to Ozzie Albies, .200-.220 bat.

How about leaving some of those high fastballs alone? That might do it, too, without having him turn into Dee Gordon.

[Super]

I guarantee that he's a true talent .200-.220 bat unless he changes his approach back and .200-.220 is permanently broken.

this is one of the most absurd things ever said on here, and it did not get enough attention.

[UNCBlue012]

Newk needs to avenge us tonight

He will!

[GovClintonTyree]

is allard's ceiling clayton richard?

His walk rate is low, his HR rate is low, his hit rate is low, his ERA is two, he's going seven innings every game...

but his K rate is alarmingly low, too. And the GO/AO isn't low, about even.

So all he's done is get results, pitching to contact. I guess the only thing to do is find out. Can't be worse than the Teheran/Gohara show last night.

[Super]

His walk rate is low, his HR rate is low, his hit rate is low, his ERA is two, he's going seven innings every game...

but his K rate is alarmingly low, too. And the GO/AO isn't low, about even.

So all he's done is get results, pitching to contact. I guess the only thing to do is find out. Can't be worse than the Teheran/Gohara show last night.

Velo is low, Ks are insanely low, FIP and xFIP aren't great. it's hard for me to see much from him.

[AerchAngel]

His walk rate is low, his HR rate is low, his hit rate is low, his ERA is two, he's going seven innings every game...

but his K rate is alarmingly low, too. And the GO/AO isn't low, about even.

So all he's done is get results, pitching to contact. I guess the only thing to do is find out. Can't be worse than the Teheran/Gohara show last night.

They both need to be DL'ed.

[GovClintonTyree]

this is one of the most absurd things ever said on here, and it did not get enough attention.

She's really convicted that he needs to stop hitting the ball in the air. It's an interesting conundrum, because he had more than passing success doing it, but history would suggest that if he doesn't change he's screwed.

I try and visualize him as 6'2", 220, and whether I'd be insisting he hit the ball on the ground and use his speed. I think the answer is in the middle, and that he'll learn to treat certain pitches in certain zones as tasty, others to not do too much with and others to leave alone.

[Super]

They both need to be DL'ed.

I don't think Gohara needs to be. He needs to be stretched out.
Teheran, on the other hand..

[Super]

She's really convicted that he needs to stop hitting the ball in the air. It's an interesting conundrum, because he had more than passing success doing it, but history would suggest that if he doesn't change he's screwed.

I try and visualize him as 6'2", 220, and whether I'd be insisting he hit the ball on the ground and use his speed. I think the answer is in the middle, and that he'll learn to treat certain pitches in certain zones as tasty, others to not do too much with and others to leave alone.

i just think it's really silly to suggest that a 21-year old who's already had success and always had success literally everywhere is on the brink of being "permanently broken." like, it's just...dumb. of course he's going to have to make adjustments. did anyone at all expect him to put up a consistent .900 OPS throughout the year? of course a young player is going to have slumps and be forced to make adjustments. some people really can't handle a player going thru a slump, even tho it happens to every single player ever. i wouldn't have been surprised if he had a wRC+ of under 100 this year, being that he's, you know, TWENTY ONE and will be all season.

he started off so good and so lucky, and it's catching up to him. he made it look so easy that some got spoiled and can't handle a normal slump.

[Diesel]

i just think it's really silly to suggest that a 21-year old who's already had success and always had success literally everywhere is on the brink of being "permanently broken." like, it's just...dumb. of course he's going to have to make adjustments. did anyone at all expect him to put up a consistent .900 OPS throughout the year? of course a young player is going to have slumps and be forced to make adjustments. some people really can't handle a player going thru a slump, even tho it happens to every single player ever. i wouldn't have been surprised if he had a wRC+ of under 100 this year, being that he's, you know, TWENTY ONE and will be all season.

he started off so good and so lucky, and it's catching up to him. he made it look so easy that some got spoiled and can't handle a normal slump.

Ozzie just needs to be a little more selective in the pitches he swings at. That's the issue here. Not that he needs to be sat or moved down in the order. Just realize he's only as good as the pitch that he swings at. He's been unlucky of late as well, barreling up a lot of balls that don't find a hole or gap.

[msstate7]

i just think it's really silly to suggest that a 21-year old who's already had success and always had success literally everywhere is on the brink of being "permanently broken." like, it's just...dumb. of course he's going to have to make adjustments. did anyone at all expect him to put up a consistent .900 OPS throughout the year? of course a young player is going to have slumps and be forced to make adjustments. some people really can't handle a player going thru a slump, even tho it happens to every single player ever. i wouldn't have been surprised if he had a wRC+ of under 100 this year, being that he's, you know, TWENTY ONE and will be all season.

he started off so good and so lucky, and it's catching up to him. he made it look so easy that some got spoiled and can't handle a normal slump.

She has you triggered, doesn't she? Lol

Just ignore it... everyone knows Ozzie will be fine

[Super]

Ozzie just needs to be a little more selective in the pitches he swings at. That's the issue here. Not that he needs to be sat or moved down in the order. Just realize he's only as good as the pitch that he swings at. He's been unlucky of late as well, barreling up a lot of balls that don't find a hole or gap.

Yeah, that's another thing: his BABIP is .271. Not like he was rocking a high one while he was killing it. K-rate has fallen every month with BB rate pretty stable.

[Super]

She has you triggered, doesn't she? Lol

Just ignore it... everyone knows Ozzie will be fine

if she were trolling i'd be able to, but when it's genuine...ugh.

[GeorgiaGirl]

1. Teams are still chasing less on Folty this year than they were last year, which suggests that his breaking ball isn't that good and doesn't fool people that much, but it's ranked at 11.1 on fangraphs. The fastball thing is still an issue for him, it gets hammered.
2. I did not think Dansby was going to be traded, I thought if Coppy-gate hadn't of happened, that Albies was going to be traded as they didn't think he was good at all.
3. Albies is going to hit .240-.250 if he doesn't stop being a dead pull hitter.

[Enscheff]

She has you triggered, doesn't she? Lol

Just ignore it... everyone knows Ozzie will be fine

Saying Ozzie is permanently broken is equally as stupid as thinking Ozzie was going to maintain anything resembling a 20% HR/FB rate.

Yes, Albies will be fine.

Still hoping for more wisdom from Gov about players' power though. His insights on Albies were correct and very useful. Wait, never mind, they were the exact opposite.

[Southcack77]

Velo is low, Ks are insanely low, FIP and xFIP aren't great. it's hard for me to see much from him.

7k/9 isn’t insanely low. It’s just on the bottom end of what you see in majors now.

[Enscheff]

7k/9 isn’t insanely low. It’s just on the bottom end of what you see in majors now.

Except for the fact he isn't at 7 K/9 in AAA. He is at 5.71 K/9. Allard is relying on a very low BABIP of .258 despite very average LD/FB/GB rates. That combination isn't going to play at the MLB level.

Go ahead and find pitchers that were successful at the MLB level with that type of K rate. I'll wait.

[Southcack77]

Except for the fact he isn't at 7 K/9 in AAA. He is at 5.71 K/9. Allard is relying on a very low BABIP of .258 despite very average LD/FB/GB rates. That combination isn't going to play at the MLB level.

Go ahead and find pitchers that were successful at the MLB level with that type of K rate. I'll wait.

Career rate is about 7 and it was 6 something last I checked - maybe one start ago?

I’m not high on Allard though.

[bravesfanMatt]

Maybe Georgia wants to trade Ozzie and promote TD.

[msstate7]

Except for the fact he isn't at 7 K/9 in AAA. He is at 5.71 K/9. Allard is relying on a very low BABIP of .258 despite very average LD/FB/GB rates. That combination isn't going to play at the MLB level.

Go ahead and find pitchers that were successful at the MLB level with that type of K rate. I'll wait.

I'm gonna keep dreaming big...
Greinke milb k rate = 7.74 per 9
Allard milb k rate = 8.11 per 9

I'm sure I'll be disappointed, but I like allard

[GovClintonTyree]

I'm gonna keep dreaming big...
Greinke milb k rate = 7.74 per 9
Allard milb k rate = 8.11 per 9

I'm sure I'll be disappointed, but I like allard

I hate the way he makes it a foregone conclusion that the guy sucks and should just kill himself because he's useless, but that K rate is really low for the modern game. There was more pitching to contact in the olden days. Like the 90s.

The other anomaly that seems to show up from time to time on the K/9 issue is sinkerballers. Sometimes they're effective despite the low K/9.

[GovClintonTyree]

1. Teams are still chasing less on Folty this year than they were last year, which suggests that his breaking ball isn't that good and doesn't fool people that much, but it's ranked at 11.1 on fangraphs. The fastball thing is still an issue for him, it gets hammered.
2. I did not think Dansby was going to be traded, I thought if Coppy-gate hadn't of happened, that Albies was going to be traded as they didn't think he was good at all.
3. Albies is going to hit .240-.250 if he doesn't stop being a dead pull hitter.

Is it .240-.250 or .200-.220? I'm confused about just how badly he's gonna suck.

[Super]

I'm gonna keep dreaming big...
Greinke milb k rate = 7.74 per 9
Allard milb k rate = 8.11 per 9

I'm sure I'll be disappointed, but I like allard

fair point, but was greinke throwing 88-90 MPH back then?

[GeorgiaGirl]

Maybe Georgia wants to trade Ozzie and promote TD.

No, I don't. I just think Atlanta/Georgia sports fans can never have nice things. Ever. All of their players are never going to fully live up to it.

[Enscheff]

I hate the way he makes it a foregone conclusion that the guy sucks and should just kill himself because he's useless, but that K rate is really low for the modern game. There was more pitching to contact in the olden days. Like the 90s.

The other anomaly that seems to show up from time to time on the K/9 issue is sinkerballers. Sometimes they're effective despite the low K/9.

What are your projections for Allard? Have any more brilliant assessment of another hitter's power?

Can we do a leave the board bet?

You don't know ****. Stop trying to live vicariously through your son's HS exploits that won't get past whatever swamp water school he competes at.

[Enscheff]

Is it .240-.250 or .200-.220? I'm confused about just how badly he's gonna suck.

I'm confused about Albies' power dip. Care to enlighten me?

[jpx7]

In fact, it might be him, and not McCarthy, that sees the convenient dl stint when Soroka returns.

Ahem. Teheran to DL. Luke Jackson to take his spot (for now). (https://www.talkingchop.com/2018/6/5/17431400/atlanta-braves-place-julio-teheran-disabled-list-thumb-contusion)

[Enscheff]

Ahem. Teheran to DL.

Watching Teheran decline is sad.

[msstate7]

Ahem. Teheran to DL. Luke Jackson to take his spot (for now). (https://www.talkingchop.com/2018/6/5/17431400/atlanta-braves-place-julio-teheran-disabled-list-thumb-contusion)

Luke Jackson? Why not soroka or fried?

[Enscheff]

Luke Jackson? Why not soroka or fried?

Because they can use the BP arm now...

[msstate7]

Because they can use the BP arm now...

Thought Luke was out of options though

[Enscheff]

Thought Luke was out of options though

No idea on his service status, but he isn't the kind of pitcher you worry too much about getting through waivers.

[bravesfanMatt]

Thought Luke was out of options though

Luke sucks and has endless option because no one will claim him. He is for long relief if Newk or Folty **** the bed

[jpx7]

Luke Jackson? Why not soroka or fried?

He’ll be gone again soon enough.

[GovClintonTyree]

What are your projections for Allard? Have any more brilliant assessment of another hitter's power?

Can we do a leave the board bet?

You don't know ****. Stop trying to live vicariously through your son's HS exploits that won't get past whatever swamp water school he competes at.

Didn't get any dick tonight, huh, Nick?

Hope you have a better day tomorrow.