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BeanieAntics
06-22-2018, 02:16 PM
Another 10 day DL stint. Something to worry about or just some more roster manipulation? We selected the contract of Danny Santana, who has actually been really good in AAA.

CJ9
06-22-2018, 02:17 PM
There’s no way this is roster manipulation. It’s a bad sign for Soroka.

BeanieAntics
06-22-2018, 02:19 PM
Maybe he just came back a little too early and that could explain some of the lost velo? I don't know, I'm looking for some positives out of this.

UNCBlue012
06-22-2018, 02:23 PM
This would explain the loss in velocity. Hopefully it's nothing bad... Soroka is a huge piece of the puzzle for us.

BeanieAntics
06-22-2018, 02:25 PM
This would explain the loss in velocity. Hopefully it's nothing bad... Soroka is a huge piece of the puzzle for us.

They are saying that it is right shoulder inflammation so it doesn't sound too serious. Maybe give him a couple weeks to make sure he is 100% when he comes back.

Garmel
06-22-2018, 02:27 PM
*sigh* Let's hope McCarthy can get his **** together.

thewupk
06-22-2018, 02:29 PM
Everybody's going to the DL. Going to happen to Newk in the next month to give him a breather.

UNCBlue012
06-22-2018, 02:29 PM
They are saying that it is right shoulder inflammation so it doesn't sound too serious. Maybe give him a couple weeks to make sure he is 100% when he comes back.

You might as well. This is technically the last year before THE year, so I wouldn't go crazy and make a big push as-is, especially with young guys.

bravesfanMatt
06-22-2018, 02:30 PM
Everybody's going to the DL. Going to happen to Newk in the next month to give him a breather.

This is probably real. I would give him off till all star break. Then evaluate after that.

atl717
06-22-2018, 02:40 PM
This is good news for me because his stuff did not look good. Hope this is the reason.

Hudson2
06-22-2018, 02:50 PM
The Mets definitely won't take him back in a DeGrom trade now...

Enscheff
06-22-2018, 03:11 PM
Kinda saw this coming...


I’m most concerned about any further decline in velocity for Soroka.



After seeing Soroka's velocity drop in every single start, I wouldn't be surprised to see him rested soon too.


This really isn't what we want to see with young SPs. Soroka at 91 is a lot different than Soroka at 94.

https://i.imgur.com/h2VMfuS.jpg

PurpleBrave
06-22-2018, 04:23 PM
I’d be surprised if we saw him back before August

nsacpi
06-22-2018, 04:35 PM
Makes it likely we will see Allard in the rotation sometime this year. He's been the best guy in the AAA rotation in the past few weeks.

Current major league rotation currently consists of:

1) Suarez...an ok depth option but a guy who has given up a lot of home runs in recent years and is benefiting from a lot of BABIP luck this year.
2) McCarthy...always an injury risk
3) Folty...currently on the DL
4) Teheran...has already been on the DL this year and has seen some alarming fluctuations in velocity
5) Newcomb...knock on wood he stays healthy and effective

We've been fortunate in having relatively few missed starts by the rotation this year. Having some injuries and missed starts is normal. Every team needs to assume that they will need 8 pitchers to make 10 or more starts in any given season. That's why its good to have some decent options in AAA. Soroka has already stepped in for 5 starts so far. Wisler and Fried have made starts. I think Allard and Gohara will get some opportunities as well.

Anyone still think it is a good idea to move some of our "starting pitching surplus" at the deadline?

Russ2dollas
06-22-2018, 04:37 PM
Rest him. Send him down until after the deadline

nsacpi
06-22-2018, 04:39 PM
Rest him. Send him down until after the deadline

Yup. Be conservative. Even with hitters on rehab.

thewupk
06-22-2018, 04:48 PM
Anyone still think it is a good idea to move some of our "starting pitching surplus" at the deadline?

I never bought into the trade McCarthy camp. We will need him for several more starts this year.

Enscheff
06-22-2018, 04:53 PM
Can someone please list all the pitchers the Braves have again? Maybe stick a * next to the healthy ones?

Haven't seen them all spelled out for a day or so, and I've forgotten which guys are in the organization.

zbhargrove
06-22-2018, 05:42 PM
Crap

GeorgiaGirl
06-22-2018, 05:45 PM
To the eyes his stuff has seemingly pretty consistently dropped off in the bigs after making more than 1 start in a row.

It's very concerning. I hate it, but that troll on twitter that talked about Ronald, then Mike might not be so wrong after all.

Ozzie Swanson
06-22-2018, 08:49 PM
To the eyes his stuff has seemingly pretty consistently dropped off in the bigs after making more than 1 start in a row.

It's very concerning. I hate it, but that troll on twitter that talked about Ronald, then Mike might not be so wrong after all.

He just needs a day off.

sturg33
06-27-2018, 10:07 AM
Moved to 60 day dl

I'd guess his season is over

nsacpi
06-27-2018, 10:11 AM
AA saying they want to give him 30 days off and then a 30 day stint to ramp back up in the minors. Says that's been the plan since he went on the DL the second time. They want to make sure this time the shoulder has had enough time to fully recover.

This leaves us in a situation where Allard could be a key part of the rotation if any of the current 5 get hurt or falter. There are other options like Fried and Wisler, but I think Allard is next in line for an opportunity.

sturg33
06-27-2018, 10:15 AM
Gohara

depley
06-27-2018, 10:19 AM
Wes Parsons is being added to 40 man and called up, Wisler back to AAA. It appears to me that Allard will not be called up in this season.

nsacpi
06-27-2018, 10:20 AM
Gohara

I'm gonna wait until he has a few effective 5+ inning outings in AAA before counting on him. But he could be an option in the second half, for either the rotation or pen.

There was a time when I was envisioning a September/Post-Season rotation that included Soroka, Gohara, Newk and Folty. That vision is receding.

NYCBrave
06-27-2018, 10:22 AM
Thank goodness for pitching depth!!!

thewupk
06-27-2018, 10:24 AM
Not the best of news.

Enscheff
06-27-2018, 11:06 AM
Soroka was pretty much the safest pitcher in the Braves organization...and he went down. This sucks.

Yet folks still want to dump major resources into acquiring a single SP.

Super
06-27-2018, 11:08 AM
aren't shoulder injuries worse than elbows? or am i making that up

bravesfanMatt
06-27-2018, 11:10 AM
aren't shoulder injuries worse than elbows? or am i making that up

Tears can be.

Enscheff
06-27-2018, 11:17 AM
aren't shoulder injuries worse than elbows? or am i making that up

Usually, but as long as they don't go under the knife it tends to work out.

As soon as they have shoulder surgery of any kind it's pretty much game over.

Enscheff
06-27-2018, 11:25 AM
And now he is burning service time on the DL.

Southcack77
06-27-2018, 11:28 AM
And now he is burning service time on the DL.

and making MLB money while he does it. While no doubt sneaking shoes over the border.

jpx7
06-27-2018, 12:01 PM
and making MLB money while he does it. While no doubt sneaking shoes over the border.

The Stampede’s coming up in Calgs; gotta keep the fam well-shod.

jpx7
06-27-2018, 12:39 PM
Wes Parsons is being added to 40 man and called up, Wisler back to AAA. It appears to me that Allard will not be called up in this season.

I wonder if they have Allard working on something, and want to see him continue to work on it without the stress of facing major-league hitters. I’m basing this solely on circumstantial evidence, but it’s been interesting that he’s seen an uptick in both Ks and runs allowed the past few weeks.

clvclv
06-27-2018, 12:49 PM
And now he is burning service time on the DL.

OMG what a travesty - release him now, he's going to screw up the spreadsheet!!!

Enscheff
06-27-2018, 01:00 PM
OMG what a travesty - release him now, he's going to screw up the spreadsheet!!!

:facepalm:

derp gonna derp