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Hulavol
09-19-2018, 09:34 AM
Wednesday 9/19 12:10pm
Touki Toussaint (R)
vs. Cardinals - Jack Flaherty (R)
1. Ronald Acuna Jr. (R) LF
2. Ender Inciarte (L) CF
3. Freddie Freeman (L) 1B
4. Nick Markakis (L) RF
5. Johan Camargo (S) 3B
6. Ozzie Albies (S) 2B
7. Tyler Flowers (R) C
8. Dansby Swanson (R) SS
9. Touki Toussaint (R) P

nsacpi
09-19-2018, 09:49 AM
expecting a yuge game from Swanson

salmagundy
09-19-2018, 09:51 AM
Maybe a little improvement in the #2 hole. No Albies, Inciarte in there today. Ozzie last 30 games has been way down. 24 for last 108((5-26 in last 7 games), 6 RBIs(0 in last 7), 11/21 BBs/Ks, .222 Avg(.192 last 7)

Hulavol
09-19-2018, 09:53 AM
Definitely like seeing Ender back in the two hole. Addition by subtraction.

msstate7
09-19-2018, 09:55 AM
Wish we'd put our best 3 hitters (Acuna, FF, and markakis) 1-3

thewupk
09-19-2018, 09:59 AM
Definitely like seeing Ender back in the two hole. Addition by subtraction.
:cooter:

mqt
09-19-2018, 10:12 AM
Saw Flaherty at the top of the post and almost had a rage attack.

Hulavol
09-19-2018, 10:22 AM
Saw Flaherty at the top of the post and almost had a rage attack.

That is damn funny!

CyYoung31
09-19-2018, 10:33 AM
We’re going to get swept. Just letting you all know right now. I’ve told you all along that the division was going to come down to the last 7 against the Phillies whether we liked it or not. This team just can’t make anything easy.

Chipper
09-19-2018, 10:39 AM
We’re going to get swept. Just letting you all know right now. I’ve told you all along that the division was going to come down to the last 7 against the Phillies whether we liked it or not. This team just can’t make anything easy.

Look at the negative Nancy over here!

CyYoung31
09-19-2018, 10:42 AM
Look at the negative Nancy over here!

I prefer Nervous Nellie.

nsacpi
09-19-2018, 10:45 AM
I prefer Nervous Nellie.

fortunately the phainting phillies will save the nervous nellies and negative nancies

CyYoung31
09-19-2018, 10:47 AM
fortunately the phainting phillies will save the nervous nellies and negative nancies

All I’m saying is that we’re going to get swept by the Cardinals. Nothing more.

Enscheff
09-19-2018, 10:53 AM
At some point Snit will figure out how to get the guy with a .370 OBP and .150 ISO batting in front of the guy with a .280 ISO...but not this day.

When he figures out the correct 1-2 punch is Markakis-Acuna we can all dance a happy little jig.

Chipper
09-19-2018, 11:02 AM
All I’m saying is that we’re going to get swept by the Cardinals. Nothing more.

Doubt anyone here will disagree with you on this.

Hulavol
09-19-2018, 11:08 AM
Doubt anyone here will disagree with you on this.

I disagree. I think Touki will shred them.

bravesnumberone
09-19-2018, 11:12 AM
At some point Snit will figure out how to get the guy with a .370 OBP and .150 ISO batting in front of the guy with a .280 ISO...but not this day.

When he figures out the correct 1-2 punch is Markakis-Acuna we can all dance a happy little jig.

I think this is worth a try, though Nick has been good behind Freddie. I have somewhat confidence Camargo could step in at cleanup. Snit wouldn't do it in 100 years, though.

msstate7
09-19-2018, 11:12 AM
We’re going to get swept. Just letting you all know right now. I’ve told you all along that the division was going to come down to the last 7 against the Phillies whether we liked it or not. This team just can’t make anything easy.

I've got a good feeling about today

Enscheff
09-19-2018, 11:13 AM
Touki is kinda all over the place early. Hopefully he is effectively wild today.

UNCBlue012
09-19-2018, 11:14 AM
Tough start for Touki. The command isn't there yet

bravesfanforlife88
09-19-2018, 11:14 AM
Touki is kinda all over the place early. Hopefully he is effectively wild today.

keeps missing arm side

msstate7
09-19-2018, 11:15 AM
I'd go fried really early if this continues

UNCBlue012
09-19-2018, 11:16 AM
Huge DP!

bravesfanforlife88
09-19-2018, 11:17 AM
Touki was gifted that second strike, that was inside and at no point crossed the plate....but we'll take it!

UNCBlue012
09-19-2018, 11:20 AM
Damn, Acuna was destroyed in that sequence. Unlike dude last night, I can see why this guy has such a good ERA.

msstate7
09-19-2018, 11:20 AM
Damn, sit down, Acuna

msstate7
09-19-2018, 11:21 AM
Will this be a 9-pitch, 3 strike out inning?

UNCBlue012
09-19-2018, 11:24 AM
Freddie is killing it this series.

UNCBlue012
09-19-2018, 11:25 AM
That squibber by Markakis is 100% a hit if the Cards do it. That's how good their luck has been. lol

salmagundy
09-19-2018, 11:27 AM
Acuna and Inciarte looked like Little League hitters in their 1st ABs. Carved up and served to the dugout. If this crap continues, it's going to be a long afternoon and an even longer 2 weeks till the season ends.

msstate7
09-19-2018, 11:27 AM
There is good news... flaherty has pitched 138.1 ip in his 25 starts ~ 5 ip per start. Hopefully we can get him out after 5

msstate7
09-19-2018, 11:28 AM
They hitting touki hard

salmagundy
09-19-2018, 11:28 AM
Great reflexes by Camargo with diving back hand grab.

UNCBlue012
09-19-2018, 11:29 AM
Whew. I know it's early, but Touki has nearly nothing today.

thewupk
09-19-2018, 11:30 AM
Acuna and Inciarte looked like Little League hitters in their 1st ABs. Carved up and served to the dugout. If this crap continues, it's going to be a long afternoon and an even longer 2 weeks till the season ends.

2 AB sample size? wow

UNCBlue012
09-19-2018, 11:32 AM
Maybe our pitchers just suck at home? I don't have an answer as to why we keep walking every freaking person.

msstate7
09-19-2018, 11:33 AM
Touki continues to raise his bb9... no small task when it entered at 6.75

UNCBlue012
09-19-2018, 11:34 AM
Holy beautiful pitch.

msstate7
09-19-2018, 11:34 AM
Cards continue to give Matt Adams opportunities even though he's been horrible for cards. I like it... I think it will pay off. Wish we would give Duvall a few more shots

msstate7
09-19-2018, 11:39 AM
5 batters 3 k

UNCBlue012
09-19-2018, 11:40 AM
5 batters 3 k

Freddie was a good at-bat and no one else has looked worth anything.

msstate7
09-19-2018, 11:43 AM
7 batters 4 k

Damn

Enscheff
09-19-2018, 11:43 AM
Freddie was a good at-bat and no one else has looked worth anything.

It's almost like this Flaherty kid is a good pitcher, and the Braves are mediocre vs RHP.

Weird...

bravesnumberone
09-19-2018, 11:43 AM
Lifeless.

UNCBlue012
09-19-2018, 11:44 AM
It's almost like this Flaherty kid is a good pitcher, and the Braves are mediocre vs RHP.

Weird...

Hey, I said earlier in the thread that I can see this kid is good! Dude last night was trash and made us look woeful.

msstate7
09-19-2018, 11:44 AM
It's almost like this Flaherty kid is a good pitcher, and the Braves are mediocre vs RHP.

Weird...
The braves have hit a better rhp (scherzer) than this. Flaherty is good though fo sho

UNCBlue012
09-19-2018, 11:46 AM
What the hell, Touki? Get your crap together.

msstate7
09-19-2018, 11:46 AM
3 free passes for touki. Jeez

Enscheff
09-19-2018, 11:46 AM
LOL, if you guys were Cards fans you'd be complaining that Touki gave 2 free base runners and they STILL can't score. Then you'd go on and on about how the missed opportunities early will be why they lost the game...and the division.

"If we don't make the playoffs not scoring early today will be why"

Enscheff
09-19-2018, 11:46 AM
The braves have hit a better rhp (scherzer) than this. Flaherty is good though fo sho

It's almost like a handful of batters vs a pitcher is a meaningless sample size.

weird...

msstate7
09-19-2018, 11:47 AM
LOL, if you guys were Cards fans you'd be complaining that Touki gave 2 free base runners and they STILL can't score. Then you'd go on and on about how the missed opportunities early will be why they lost the game...and the division.

And you'd be complaining about those complaining... never ending complaint cycle

Enscheff
09-19-2018, 11:48 AM
And you'd be complaining about those complaining... never ending complaint cycle

mind...blown

UNCBlue012
09-19-2018, 11:50 AM
Touki is really lucky his stuff is so good. If Teheran pitched like this, he'd be out by now.

msstate7
09-19-2018, 11:50 AM
It's almost like a handful of batters vs a pitcher is a meaningless sample size.

weird...

I'm just impressed with flaherty. No idea what you're getting at. Only 2 braves [Duvall (has a hr) and Duda (no success)... both SSS] have ever faced flaherty

UNCBlue012
09-19-2018, 11:50 AM
Another DP!

msstate7
09-19-2018, 11:51 AM
Another break. Get on base, Swanson

Enscheff
09-19-2018, 11:51 AM
Touki bailed out by 2 GIDP so far.

Where are the "just put the ball in play and see what happens" comments?

It's almost like grounders can be worse than Ks...weird...

UNCBlue012
09-19-2018, 11:53 AM
Touki bailed out by 2 GIDP so far.

Where are the "just put the ball in play and see what happens" comments?

It's almost like grounders can be worse than Ks...weird...

Dawg... just watch the damn game.

msstate7
09-19-2018, 11:55 AM
5 k 8 batters

smootness
09-19-2018, 11:56 AM
Touki bailed out by 2 GIDP so far.

Where are the "just put the ball in play and see what happens" comments?

It's almost like grounders can be worse than Ks...weird...

Everyone knows this.

msstate7
09-19-2018, 11:57 AM
Touki with a good AB

UNCBlue012
09-19-2018, 11:58 AM
This would be a huge win because the offense is just so bad right now. Props to Flaherty, but man.

msstate7
09-19-2018, 11:59 AM
Think we'll have some better ABs this time round

Super
09-19-2018, 12:05 PM
Acuna and Inciarte looked like Little League hitters in their 1st ABs. Carved up and served to the dugout. If this crap continues, it's going to be a long afternoon and an even longer 2 weeks till the season ends.

my lord.

Enscheff
09-19-2018, 12:08 PM
Everyone knows this.

Really? We are listening to a "nobody puts the ball in play anymore" diatribe right now.

Enscheff
09-19-2018, 12:10 PM
Touki just humped up to 97 and 96 vs Molina after the double steal.

Southcack77
09-19-2018, 12:11 PM
that feeling you get when you read the thread and think the Braves pitcher is doing poorly and you look at the box and he's thrown four scoreless with five ks and five base runners is mostly relief and a little irritation.

bravesnumberone
09-19-2018, 12:12 PM
Touki needs to go the distance. No faith in the pen.

msstate7
09-19-2018, 12:13 PM
that feeling you get when you read the thread and think the Braves pitcher is doing poorly and you look at the box and he's thrown four scoreless with five ks and five base runners is mostly relief and a little irritation.

Touki was pretty shaky early. I don't care what the box score says. He's since gotten better

Super
09-19-2018, 12:16 PM
DAD

Enscheff
09-19-2018, 12:16 PM
Are the Braves good again?

bravesnumberone
09-19-2018, 12:17 PM
Now we definitely can't take Touki out until we have a 10-0 lead.

Super
09-19-2018, 12:17 PM
Are the Braves good again?

they'll be in 2nd by the end of today

nsacpi
09-19-2018, 12:18 PM
yuge veteran clutchness from Fredito

Super
09-19-2018, 12:21 PM
ozzie with the weak pop up...trying something new, i see.

CyYoung31
09-19-2018, 12:22 PM
Are the Braves good again?

Depends on if you still think the Braves are a good team after they get swept by St. Louis.

UNCBlue012
09-19-2018, 12:26 PM
Andddddd another pitcher allows the Cards to grab a run or more after taking the lead. This is just an epidemic.

Super
09-19-2018, 12:27 PM
god forbid they not give back a run or more after scoring.

Enscheff
09-19-2018, 12:27 PM
Andddddd another pitcher allows the Cards to grab a run or more after taking the lead. This is just an epidemic.

LOL

msstate7
09-19-2018, 12:27 PM
Why in the hell can the braves not get a shut down inning? Every time the braves score, the opponent will score next inning

bravesfanforlife88
09-19-2018, 12:29 PM
https://i.redd.it/h0f6pas019sz.png

msstate7
09-19-2018, 12:32 PM
Do you let touki face them a 3rd time?

bravesnumberone
09-19-2018, 12:32 PM
Do you let touki face them a 3rd time?

It's better than the alternative.

Who in the pen do you have confidence in to hold this?

Hulavol
09-19-2018, 12:33 PM
Good Flow!

GeorgiaGirl
09-19-2018, 12:33 PM
The only thing that Ozzie really can do atm is just ignore upper quadrant strikes. Against pitchers that can command up in the zone well, he's screwed atm and it appears that Jack Flaherty can.

msstate7
09-19-2018, 12:34 PM
It's better than the alternative.

Who in the pen do you have confidence in to hold this?

No one. I'm not real confident in touki a 3rd time either though

bravesnumberone
09-19-2018, 12:36 PM
No one. I'm not real confident in touki a 3rd time either though

I can't stomach the bullpen blowing it again.

UNCBlue012
09-19-2018, 12:38 PM
I like Acuna walks.

Hulavol
09-19-2018, 12:38 PM
Good Acuna

UNCBlue012
09-19-2018, 12:40 PM
flowers score!

Hulavol
09-19-2018, 12:40 PM
Good Touki getting the runner in position...great take by Ender!!!!

msstate7
09-19-2018, 12:41 PM
Big answer

UNCBlue012
09-19-2018, 12:42 PM
Do the thing again, Freddie

UNCBlue012
09-19-2018, 12:45 PM
Is Freddie good again?

Hulavol
09-19-2018, 12:45 PM
Good Freddie

bravesfanforlife88
09-19-2018, 12:45 PM
Freeman heating up at the right time

bravesnumberone
09-19-2018, 12:45 PM
That's what a good veteran does right there.

msstate7
09-19-2018, 12:46 PM
Big inning. Great job, braves. Please shut em down next inning

Super
09-19-2018, 12:47 PM
freddie should've been benched every day while he was cold but i'm glad he's hot again

Super
09-19-2018, 12:47 PM
our old friend chasen shreve coming in

UNCBlue012
09-19-2018, 12:50 PM
Great play defensively either way. Hopefully Freddie is safe!

Super
09-19-2018, 12:50 PM
da fuq? he's safe by a mile

Tapate50
09-19-2018, 12:51 PM
Safe and going to be a run for us ! Heads up play! He also dropped the ball

Super
09-19-2018, 12:51 PM
why should the runner not score from 3rd..?

thewupk
09-19-2018, 12:51 PM
Freeman heating up at the right time

Indeed. MVP Freddie is coming to the playoffs

bravesnumberone
09-19-2018, 12:51 PM
Why are we running there? FFS. This is the dumb **** that can let them right back in it. Please get a shut-down inning for once.

EDIT: NEVERMIND. Still, though.

UNCBlue012
09-19-2018, 12:51 PM
He's safe. So he'll be out

UNCBlue012
09-19-2018, 12:52 PM
5-1!

Super
09-19-2018, 12:52 PM
why should the runner not score from 3rd..?

never mind, good ****

Hulavol
09-19-2018, 12:52 PM
Good Freddie!

Super
09-19-2018, 12:52 PM
Why are we running there? FFS. This is the dumb **** that can let them right back in it. Please get a shut-down inning for once.

oops

Hulavol
09-19-2018, 12:52 PM
Good Ender!

UNCBlue012
09-19-2018, 12:53 PM
Freddie is a damn one-man wrecking crew today. He's pissed at this board lol

Hulavol
09-19-2018, 12:53 PM
Good NYC for once!

bravesnumberone
09-19-2018, 12:53 PM
Freddie is a damn one-man wrecking crew today. He's pissed at this board lol

He's playing like a leader.

bravesnumberone
09-19-2018, 12:55 PM
NOW, can we get a shutdown inning after scoring?

msstate7
09-19-2018, 12:56 PM
Who do you go with once touki is done?

bravesnumberone
09-19-2018, 12:56 PM
Who do you go with once touki is done?

Culberson.

Diesel
09-19-2018, 12:56 PM
Why are we running there? FFS. This is the dumb **** that can let them right back in it. Please get a shut-down inning for once.

EDIT: NEVERMIND. Still, though.

Why do we steal there? If you've come up playing or coaching little league through high school you know that a 1st and 3rd situation is a great time to steal. Throwing down to 2nd base often results in free runs, so many catchers won't even make the throw (risk/reward). Catchers are better in the pros, so not as frequently take advantage of. Still, same thought process is present. Plus, Freddie frequently catches pitchers off guard. Aggressive play applies pressure to defense to be sharp.

bravesnumberone
09-19-2018, 12:57 PM
Why do we steal there? If you've come up playing or coaching little league through high school you know that a 1st and 3rd situation is a great time to steal. Throwing down to 2nd base often results in free runs, so many catchers won't even make the throw (risk/reward). Catchers are better in the pros, so not as frequently take advantage of. Still, same thought process is present. Plus, Freddie frequently catches pitchers off guard. Aggressive play applies pressure to defense to be sharp.

Molina has a cannon. But good point on the surprise element.

Super
09-19-2018, 01:00 PM
haha ozuna giving touki an up and down head shake after the K..it's crazy how touki's breaking pitch whips

msstate7
09-19-2018, 01:02 PM
Touki gonna be so good once his control gets better

bravesnumberone
09-19-2018, 01:02 PM
Six freaking walks.

UNCBlue012
09-19-2018, 01:03 PM
Touki gonna be so good once his control gets better

Yup. Unlike Newk, I think he has a really good shot at consistently improving as well.

Super
09-19-2018, 01:03 PM
NOW, can we get a shutdown inning after scoring?

nope. can't have it. ever.

UNCBlue012
09-19-2018, 01:04 PM
FREAKING MOLINA AGAIN.

bravesnumberone
09-19-2018, 01:04 PM
No, it's just freaking impossible to get a shutdown inning after scoring three.

UNCBlue012
09-19-2018, 01:05 PM
I would absolutely stick with Touki for one more at-bat since he's owned Adams. Venters coming in.

msstate7
09-19-2018, 01:05 PM
Will the cards PH?

bravesnumberone
09-19-2018, 01:06 PM
Here we go. Lead was nice while it lasted.

Orphan Black
09-19-2018, 01:06 PM
Not sure why you take Touki out here...he's K'd Adams twice already and only has 93 pitches.

UNCBlue012
09-19-2018, 01:07 PM
Man, that horrible inning in relief has really inflated Touki's ERA. 4.30 while he's probably pitched closer to 3.50 as a starter.

The walks are rough, but the kid is going to be so dang good.

Enscheff
09-19-2018, 01:07 PM
The Braves have scored 5 and the Cardinals have scored 2.

What difference does it possibly make when those runs were scored in relation to each other? Why this fascination with the "shut down inning" other than you heard Joe Simpson talk about it?

bravesnumberone
09-19-2018, 01:08 PM
Not sure why you take Touki out here...he's K'd Adams twice already and only has 93 pitches.

Snit gonna Snit.

Super
09-19-2018, 01:09 PM
The Braves have scored 5 and the Cardinals have scored 2.

What difference does it possibly make when those runs were scored in relation to each other? Why this fascination with the "shut down inning" other than you heard Joe Simpson talk about it?

i haven't heard simpson talk about it at all; i generally don't listen to the games, just watch. i would just prefer to keep a bigger lead right after scoring runs, and it's annoying to have a good inning and immediately surrender runs. that's all, it's just annoying.

Super
09-19-2018, 01:10 PM
i haven't heard simpson talk about it at all; i generally don't listen to the games, just watch. i would just prefer to keep a bigger lead right after scoring runs, and it's annoying to have a good inning and immediately surrender runs. that's all, it's just annoying.

**especially when it's happening constantly lately.

nsacpi
09-19-2018, 01:10 PM
Venters does his job.

Enscheff
09-19-2018, 01:10 PM
Not sure why you take Touki out here...he's K'd Adams twice already and only has 93 pitches.

Because it's the right move to make

nsacpi
09-19-2018, 01:11 PM
Probably Shane Carle in the 7th. He's pretty well rested.

GeorgiaGirl
09-19-2018, 01:12 PM
Since Touki isn't an established starter yet, they'd likely much rather he leave with his confidence intact instead of wrecked. He was given Molina purely for developmental purposes, but that was it even if he had owned Matt Adams.

If that's Folty, they likely try to push him longer.

And yeah, since Touki is younger, he's much more likely to improve his command to acceptable.

bravesfanforlife88
09-19-2018, 01:17 PM
Cards manager doing the right thing...if any of my pitchers gave up a walk to Albies, i'd immediately take them out too

UNCBlue012
09-19-2018, 01:17 PM
Albies has eight walks in Septemeber... Is that a lot? Nah, but he's at least shown more patience recently.

Enscheff
09-19-2018, 01:18 PM
It's pretty clear how pitchers are adjusting to Ozzie's aggressiveness. The sooner he adjusts like Acuna has, the better.

The scouting report now is almost certainly, "let him get himself out".

https://i.imgur.com/eFw4ucr.jpg

UNCBlue012
09-19-2018, 01:20 PM
Dang. Flowers JUST missed.

Enscheff
09-19-2018, 01:25 PM
That was a tip your cap to Mayers AB against Duda...he perfectly executed 3 pitches and Duda had no chance.

salmagundy
09-19-2018, 01:25 PM
After the Swanson BBs, Duda FO 9 to end threat.

bravesnumberone
09-19-2018, 01:26 PM
Oh boy, Biddle.

GeorgiaGirl
09-19-2018, 01:29 PM
I'm going to keep knocking on it...but Albies problem isn't JUST the swinging at everything.

http://www.brooksbaseball.net/h_profile.php?player=645277&gFilt=&pFilt=FA|SI|FC|CU|SL|CS|KN|CH|FS|SB&time=month&minmax=ci&var=iso&s_type=2&startDate=03/28/2018&endDate=09/19/2018&balls=-1&strikes=-1&b_hand=-1

Can he hit upper quadrant pitches with authority? The answer, very clearly, is "no". It's even worse lefty.

http://www.brooksbaseball.net/h_profile.php?player=645277&gFilt=&pFilt=FA|SI|FC|CU|SL|CS|KN|CH|FS|SB&time=month&minmax=ci&var=iso&s_type=2&startDate=03/28/2018&endDate=09/19/2018&balls=-1&strikes=-1&b_hand=R

Most pitchers don't have the command to consistently elevate, so he can simply just try to ignore those pitches, but against the pitchers that can, unless he figures out something else during this offseason, he's f'd vs them.

It should also be noted he's been missing pitches he was crushing consistently earlier. Someone has said if you compare to earlier in the season, it doesn't seem like he has his legs and he's all arms now in trying to swing.

UNCBlue012
09-19-2018, 01:32 PM
We got good Biddle today.

bravesnumberone
09-19-2018, 01:32 PM
Better.

nsacpi
09-19-2018, 01:33 PM
Biddle does his job.

Bunch of right handed hitters coming up for the Cards in the 8th. Brach or Carle should pitch that inning. Carle is better rested. Brach has been getting more of the high leverage work.

jpx7
09-19-2018, 01:34 PM
Biddle does his job.

nsacpi
09-19-2018, 01:37 PM
Sanchez has been an invaluable member of the Council of Elders.

Hulavol
09-19-2018, 01:39 PM
Good Ender!

UNCBlue012
09-19-2018, 01:39 PM
Freeman intentionally walked. lmao. Hell of a game either way.

Hulavol
09-19-2018, 01:40 PM
More Good Ender!

UNCBlue012
09-19-2018, 01:40 PM
LMAO 6-2.

bravesnumberone
09-19-2018, 01:42 PM
Need five more runs and I'll feel good about it.

bravesnumberone
09-19-2018, 01:48 PM
Every. Freaking. Time.

UNCBlue012
09-19-2018, 01:48 PM
WOO! HERE WE GO. YEAH BABY! BAD BULLPEN PLAY CONTINUES!!

thewupk
09-19-2018, 01:49 PM
Every. Freaking. Time.

u mad?

Super
09-19-2018, 01:49 PM
here we go. time to blow it.

bravesnumberone
09-19-2018, 01:49 PM
WOO! HERE WE GO. YEAH BABY! BAD BULLPEN PLAY CONTINUES!!

Nothing pisses me off more than a pitcher not being able to put away a hitter up 0-2.

msstate7
09-19-2018, 01:49 PM
u mad?

I am. Do your dang job, bullpen

Super
09-19-2018, 01:51 PM
I am. Do your dang job, bullpen

carle just shouldn't be getting high leverage innings. he isn't good enough

bravesnumberone
09-19-2018, 01:52 PM
THROW ****ING STRIKES

Super
09-19-2018, 01:52 PM
carle just shouldn't be getting high leverage innings. he isn't good enough

i understand we're limited in our options. but carle isn't good.

Hulavol
09-19-2018, 01:53 PM
I'll take that..

UNCBlue012
09-19-2018, 01:53 PM
Markakis' arm is so bad. That was such an easy tag out. lmao

Super
09-19-2018, 01:54 PM
i just feel a HR coming

UNCBlue012
09-19-2018, 01:54 PM
Biddle did well after the woeful start.

Super
09-19-2018, 01:54 PM
i just feel a HR coming

note that i did not say when, or by whom

Hulavol
09-19-2018, 01:54 PM
Good Dansby!

Hulavol
09-19-2018, 01:55 PM
Markakis' arm is so bad. That was such an easy tag out. lmao

He threw it right on the money- just no cannon arm.

Hulavol
09-19-2018, 01:59 PM
Good FLOW!!!

Super
09-19-2018, 01:59 PM
way to get one back

UNCBlue012
09-19-2018, 01:59 PM
Flowers! He barely missed a homer early. either way, the run from the last inning is back.

Orphan Black
09-19-2018, 02:00 PM
Flowers has an outside chance to get to 10 homers...that would give every starting player including both catchers hitting double digits.

nsacpi
09-19-2018, 02:00 PM
i just feel a HR coming

good call

Super
09-19-2018, 02:00 PM
note that i did not say when, or by whom

^^^ there it is

salmagundy
09-19-2018, 02:08 PM
And Duval Ks PH for Carle.

msstate7
09-19-2018, 02:08 PM
Minter scares the daylights out of me

50PoundHead
09-19-2018, 02:09 PM
Can anyone do a quick stat check to see how many times Minter has put the lead-off man on this season? Just seems like an awful lot to me, but I could easily be mistaken.

Hulavol
09-19-2018, 02:09 PM
2 outs to go...

msstate7
09-19-2018, 02:12 PM
Can anyone do a quick stat check to see how many times Minter has put the lead-off man on this season? Just seems like an awful lot to me, but I could easily be mistaken.

93.8% of the time






Going off memory lol

bravesnumberone
09-19-2018, 02:12 PM
I just do not understand.

Hulavol
09-19-2018, 02:12 PM
You gotta get somebody up and ready. If Minter gives up so much as one more walk, he's gotta go.

Orphan Black
09-19-2018, 02:12 PM
It's sad that there is no relief pitcher we can trust to pitch an inning without walking a guy.

Super
09-19-2018, 02:12 PM
Minter scares the daylights out of me

we need to get viz back and ready. minter is mad shaky

salmagundy
09-19-2018, 02:13 PM
Minter scares the daylights out of me

You're not the Lone Ranger!!!

50PoundHead
09-19-2018, 02:13 PM
At the risk of p*ssing off his parents and his fans in here, Minter makes me really nervous. Seems to be either lights out or a forest fire.

bravesnumberone
09-19-2018, 02:13 PM
Throw a freaking strike mother****er.

Super
09-19-2018, 02:14 PM
two lefties and minter has thrown 7 balls and 0 strikes. awful.

msstate7
09-19-2018, 02:14 PM
No worries, winkler warming up

msstate7
09-19-2018, 02:15 PM
Get his garbage but out

bravesnumberone
09-19-2018, 02:15 PM
Get him out of there now you moron.

Super
09-19-2018, 02:15 PM
holy **** man. minter is cheeks. walks two lefties as a LHP. smh

Orphan Black
09-19-2018, 02:15 PM
Just ridiculous...14 pitches and 4 strikes

Super
09-19-2018, 02:16 PM
No worries, winkler warming up

GS to tie the game upcoming

salmagundy
09-19-2018, 02:17 PM
Minter is throwing his normal-- Gives up a single, and 2 BBs to load the bases with 1 out.

GeorgiaGirl
09-19-2018, 02:17 PM
Minter down to 94-95, not only is he wild, he's tired. He can throw 96+.

Super
09-19-2018, 02:19 PM
minter lucky martinez swung at everything that AB

nsacpi
09-19-2018, 02:19 PM
Amazing changeups to Martinez. Didn't realize Minter threw one.

GeorgiaGirl
09-19-2018, 02:20 PM
If Minter is right, he isn't showing it. 93-95 with his cutter being high 80s/low 90s makes his cutter worthless.

salmagundy
09-19-2018, 02:20 PM
Martinez trying to help Minter swinging at pitches out of zone, Ks swinging

CrimsonCowboy
09-19-2018, 02:20 PM
http://i.imgur.com/P6x0U.gif

Super
09-19-2018, 02:20 PM
HEYYY LOOK AT THAT

Hulavol
09-19-2018, 02:20 PM
Had 'em all the way...

UNCBlue012
09-19-2018, 02:20 PM
What a HUGE win. wow.

TURBO
09-19-2018, 02:21 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/4wMlW2RcOCVCU/giphy.gif

Super
09-19-2018, 02:21 PM
Had 'em all the way...

never in doubt

Hulavol
09-19-2018, 02:21 PM
Now everyone of you suckers who said we were gonna lose and get swept... go suck a Touki.

msstate7
09-19-2018, 02:21 PM
Why y'all so nervous? Lol

bravesnumberone
09-19-2018, 02:21 PM
See what happens when you throw strikes.

Heyward
09-19-2018, 02:26 PM
Big time win, hopefully Thor can help us out tonight...

msstate7
09-19-2018, 02:35 PM
Wish we'd switch Julio and newcomb Friday and Saturday. Rather have newcomb pitch at night than middle of the day

The Chosen One
09-19-2018, 02:48 PM
This series is FINNISH

Super
09-19-2018, 02:50 PM
teheran and newcomb back to back this weekend gives me 0 confidence

thewupk
09-19-2018, 03:08 PM
We’re going to get swept. Just letting you all know right now. I’ve told you all along that the division was going to come down to the last 7 against the Phillies whether we liked it or not. This team just can’t make anything easy.

Hmmmm

thewupk
09-19-2018, 03:08 PM
teheran and newcomb back to back this weekend gives me 0 confidence

Julio will give up 2 in the first and then 5 scoreless after that.

Heyward
09-19-2018, 03:17 PM
teheran and newcomb back to back this weekend gives me 0 confidence

Would be nice if Mets could win tonight and MN is 5 to both Was and Phi heading into Thursday. Nats MN might be 6 but not 100 percent sure. Just hoping for a split this weekend, dont know how they get it, but just split.

Freshmaker
09-19-2018, 03:18 PM
https://j.gifs.com/6RAW77.gif

Enscheff
09-19-2018, 03:59 PM
Freeman might be heating up just in time to win the NL MVP.

chop2chip
09-19-2018, 04:03 PM
Freeman might be heating up just in time to win the NL MVP.
I would be surprised at this point if Yelich doesn’t win. Has the narrative thing and the stats to back up his claim

CyYoung31
09-19-2018, 04:06 PM
Had 'em all the way...

Impossible. I was assured by the geniuses on this board that this was a sure loss and we were going to get swept. I guess their 15 minute smoke break is over at Wal Mart. Derp.

Orphan Black
09-19-2018, 04:12 PM
I just saw the replay of Freddie's stolen base...what the heck took them so long...the 2nd baseman dropped the ball...it's like they were trying to find a way to make the out call stand.

IslandBrave
09-19-2018, 04:23 PM
Would be nice if Mets could win tonight and MN is 5 to both Was and Phi heading into Thursday. Nats MN might be 6 but not 100 percent sure. Just hoping for a split this weekend, dont know how they get it, but just split.

MN over Nats is 4

Braves1976
09-19-2018, 04:48 PM
I expect us to clinch this weekend or early next week. I hope we take three of four against Philly to clinch on the field. I don't want a MN of one going into our off-day Monday as I expect Colorado to probably beat Philly Monday and do not want to clinch on our off day. I want to be able to watch the boys celebrate on the field after a win. Hopefully if we split with Philly we clinch by beating the Mets on Tues.

The Chosen One
09-19-2018, 04:49 PM
Freeman might be heating up just in time to win the NL MVP.

Intelli Braves knew this.

CrimsonCowboy
09-19-2018, 05:15 PM
Probable starters for the Phillies series
Thursday: Gausman vs Velasquez
Friday: Teheran vs Pivetta
Saturday: Newcomb vs Arrieta
Sunday: Foltynewicz vs TBD

Braves1976
09-19-2018, 05:18 PM
Probable starters for the Phillies series
Thursday: Gausman vs Velasquez
Friday: Teheran vs Pivetta
Saturday: Newcomb vs Arrieta
Sunday: Foltynewicz vs TBD

Nola is set for Sunday.

CrimsonCowboy
09-19-2018, 05:28 PM
Nola is set for Sunday.

The MLB.com schedule says TBD, but yeah, no way Nola isn’t going to pitch in this series.

nsacpi
09-19-2018, 06:16 PM
I think we split against the phillies and clinch against the mets

Braves1976
09-19-2018, 06:28 PM
phillies up 3-0 so looks like they'll win

Braves1976
09-19-2018, 06:35 PM
I think we split against the phillies and clinch against the mets

That is my guess too, which is why I wanted a MN of 4 going in as it would be cool to clinch beating them ourselves at home. Now it will take three wins (if we do that Nats only have to lose once between now and then as well).

Chipper
09-19-2018, 06:35 PM
Freeman might be heating up just in time to win the NL MVP.

I hope so, but I think he's fallen too far behind at this point.

Braves1976
09-19-2018, 06:38 PM
I hope so, but I think he's fallen too far behind at this point.

Maybe if he had a monster series vs Philly and we clinch beating them three he could still win it.

thewupk
09-19-2018, 06:41 PM
Yelich is at 6 fWAR which is tops in the NL. It's his and rightfully so.

Braves1976
09-19-2018, 06:43 PM
Yelich is at 6 fWAR which is tops in the NL. It's his and rightfully so.

yea, i agree just showing my own Braves bias hoping Freeman still has a shot

Chipper
09-19-2018, 06:57 PM
I know they're not mine to give up, but I'd happily trade ROY and MVP for advancing to the NLCS. Pretty sure Freddie and Ronald would too.

bravesfanMatt
09-19-2018, 06:59 PM
Two cycles clinched it for Yelich. I can’t think of anything other than homering out where FF wins it.

Braves1976
09-19-2018, 07:02 PM
Tampa Bay won big again today and has two less losses than us and one more win. But they have no shot at the playoffs.

Braves1976
09-19-2018, 07:22 PM
BTW, those that were seeing this as a really down year for Ender might have to rethink that if he finishes Sept. strong because he now has his OPS over .700 (and could get it to his career norm by end of the year). Plus he is having his best defensive season in CF as he has saved a career high 18 runs (18 DRS in CF) this year. His previous best was 13 DRS in CF but keep in mind he has had years of saving 20 or more runs as Arizona use to play him all over the OF (one year he had a 29 DRS in the OF, saving the most in the corners).

Braves1976
09-19-2018, 07:38 PM
Even with Ender's career best year defensively in CF he might not get the gold glove this year. Cain has a 20 DRS in CF and will probably get it IMO.

thewupk
09-19-2018, 08:33 PM
Even with Ender's career best year defensively in CF he might not get the gold glove this year. Cain has a 20 DRS in CF and will probably get it IMO.

The rule making it where it's at each position is pretty dumb

thewupk
09-19-2018, 08:35 PM
BTW, those that were seeing this as a really down year for Ender might have to rethink that if he finishes Sept. strong because he now has his OPS over .700 (and could get it to his career norm by end of the year). Plus he is having his best defensive season in CF as he has saved a career high 18 runs (18 DRS in CF) this year. His previous best was 13 DRS in CF but keep in mind he has had years of saving 20 or more runs as Arizona use to play him all over the OF (one year he had a 29 DRS in the OF, saving the most in the corners).

He will get to 90 or higher WRC+ by the end of the year just like he has the past two seasons. He is also at 3.1 bWAR after posting seasons of 3.0 and 3.8 the last two years with Atlanta. He's been pretty consistent.

Braves1976
09-19-2018, 09:01 PM
He will get to 90 or higher WRC+ by the end of the year just like he has the past two seasons. He is also at 3.1 bWAR after posting seasons of 3.0 and 3.8 the last two years with Atlanta. He's been pretty consistent.

He also has been one of our best hitters since the All-Star break and in Sept. He has .300 batting average and an OPS over .800 (.801) the second half and third best behind only Suzuki and Acuna among best hitters in Sept. He probably leads Sept. in most clutch hits thanks to that Arizona series. His main issue earlier this year seemed to be getting a bit pull happy for a time.

Braves1976
09-19-2018, 09:05 PM
BTW, Culberson is hitting .312 with a .950 OPS in the second half (including 8 homeruns). Only Acuna has been better. Smaller sample than starters but man that is a great second half. I think you have to consider starting him in the playoffs over Swanson if Swanson continues not to hit (Swanson has been our worst hitter in Sept. and also OPS under .700 again).

Braves1976
09-19-2018, 09:07 PM
Albies has a .639 OPS in the second half, worst among starters. Swanson second worst at .670 OPS. Swanson's batting average is only .214 in the second half.

Braves1976
09-19-2018, 09:10 PM
Acuna is easily our second half MVP with a 1.026 OPS, kid has been really impressive. Only Suzuki in a smaller sample has been slightly better in Sept. too.