Tigers game 2

[msstate7]

1-0 shouldn't be very concerning, but still, I'm concerned

[nsacpi]

expecting a yuge game from Flowers.

[bravesfanforlife88]

Another blow out impending

[msstate7]

No idea why we didn't find a way to get camargo in the lineup today. Snit refuses to rest guys

[nsacpi]

No idea why we didn't find a way to get camargo in the lineup today. Snit refuses to rest guys

maybe tomorrow...Tigers will have another lefty going

[striker42]

Ump gave Norris dugout to dugout. Strike 3 to Acuna wasn't even close.

[salmagundy]

1-0 shouldn't be very concerning, but still, I'm concerned

Especially when the Braves go 1-2-3 with the same screwy lineup. Acuna Ks, then Swanson and Freddie both GO 6-3.

I thought AA had instilled a better understanding and use of metrics in Snit. He sure has ignored that knowledge.

[msstate7]

maybe tomorrow...Tigers will have another lefty going

Why not 2 in a row? He was supposed to be a huge part of our success as a utility

[msstate7]

That's just awful

[buck75]

Nap time for Acuña

[salmagundy]

AF Brevity code 111. Acuna with error in CF allows a single to turn into a runner at 2nd.

[msstate7]

Atta boy, nick

[msstate7]

Awful, Riley

[thewupk]

Braves suck

[msstate7]

This team freaking sucks right now. I know this is just a slump, but damn.

[salmagundy]

101 runner at 3rd, 1 out and don't score

[thewupk]

101 runner at 3rd, 1 out and don't score

The runner only scores 50% of the time.

[TheBravos]

We are totally gonna piss away that great road trip by going like 1-4 on this home stand aren’t we....

[msstate7]

We are totally gonna piss away that great road trip by going like 1-4 on this home stand aren’t we....

A win?! Take that crazy talk to the posi forum

[TheBravos]

A win?! Take that crazy talk to the posi forum

Yeah....This feels does feel like the Baltimore series from last year.

[bravesfanforlife88]

https://media0.giphy.com/media/ypHEH8VjThGPS/giphy.gif

[thewupk]

somehow Riley caught that

[msstate7]

I predict a rocket off the bat of acuna this inning.

[msstate7]

somehow Riley caught that

He's the Andruw Jones of lf

[salmagundy]

somehow Riley caught that

He's wearing sunglasses today.

[CyYoung31]

Bat Ronald 9th. Jesus.

[thewupk]

Bat Ronald 9th. Jesus.

offense is garbage right now

[Enscheff]

The correct move is to sit Markakis vs this LHP. He then promptly hits a triple in his first PA while the rest of the lineup struggles. To Snit, this suggests Markakis is fine against LHP, and will be in the lineup vs the next one as well.

This is the type of eye test or gut feeling decision making process that has to go away.

[msstate7]

Thank you Swanson and FF

[salmagundy]

offense is garbage right now

except for Freddie

[thewupk]

freeman can still hit

[Enscheff]

Freeman is still the centerpiece of this lineup.

[nsacpi]

freeman can still hit

just a little

[Enscheff]

Bat Ronald 9th. Jesus.

I want everyone to remember these sentiments the next time someone suggests Acuna is a better hitter at 1 than at 2 or 4.

[CyYoung31]

I want everyone to remember these sentiments the next time someone suggests Acuna is a better hitter at 1 than at 2 or 4.

I’m pretty sure no one on this board wants or has wanted Acuna in the leadoff spot. At least not this year.

[nsacpi]

I’m pretty sure no one on this board wants or has wanted Acuna in the leadoff spot. At least not this year.

I'm pretty sure Snit posts around here.

[thewupk]

that route by Riley was awful. lol

[msstate7]

Riley, Riley, Riley

[Enscheff]

I’m pretty sure no one on this board wants or has wanted Acuna in the leadoff spot. At least not this year.

I am 100% sure there were plenty of comments saying it was a good idea based on what happened last year.

[thewupk]

soroka sucks today too

[Enscheff]

Who is this Goodrum guy, and why does he look like a young Bonds vs the Braves?

[salmagundy]

What's wrong with Soroka today?? Are we seeing the regression set in already?? 3 runs on 7 hits!!

[CyYoung31]

I am 100% sure there were plenty of comments saying it was a good idea based on what happened last year.

Thethe doesn’t count.

[Enscheff]

That play right there is why Swanson plays SS and Albies doesn’t.

[Enscheff]

Soroka got bit by the bad luck bug that inning. Infield single to the pitcher, 2 runs driven in on a hit where the guy didn’t even know he made contact he was fooled so badly.

[thewupk]

What's wrong with Soroka today?? Are we seeing the regression set in already?? 3 runs on 7 hits!!

Pretty much. He isn't going to carry a 213 BABIP all year.

[GeorgiaGirl]

There's your first "episode" of the season that sinkerballing pitchers will get at times. Of course it was soft singles to no man's land that did in the streak instead of loud hits.

[striker42]

Soroka got bit by the bad luck bug that inning. Infield single to the pitcher, 2 runs driven in on a hit where the guy didn’t even know he made contact he was fooled so badly.

That's been our week.

[Enscheff]

Clearly safe

[Enscheff]

Time For Acuna to snap out of it.

[thewupk]

thats Braves baseball baby

[Enscheff]

Acuna still not hitting the bolts we are used to seeing, but I’ll take it!

[msstate7]

Dansby lucky the tigers suck

[msstate7]

Was there ever an explanation of soroka's shoulder injury last season? Was it an actual injury or just something that freaked the FO out?

[Enscheff]

Whew. Soroka is still good. I was worried for a bit.

[Enscheff]

Was there ever an explanation of soroka's shoulder injury last season? Was it an actual injury or just something that freaked the FO out?

It was a strain in the muscle at the back of his right shoulder. It’s the one responsible for decelerating the arm and keeping it from flying out of the socket. The same issue cropped at least twice.

Folks like to argue over the semantics of “injured”, but there was an issue.

The Braves handled it about as well as anyone could expect.

[thethe]

When are we going to see the back of the baseball card?

[thewupk]

When are we going to see the back of the baseball card?

tomorrow

[thethe]

No words

[CrimsonCowboy]

Austin Riley again

[salmagundy]

Back to what we normally see from Soroka. 2 Ks and a line out to Freddie Top 6th 88 pitches, 60 strikes

[TheBravos]

Was there ever an explanation of soroka's shoulder injury last season? Was it an actual injury or just something that freaked the FO out?

It was supposedly a muscle imbalance. He had worked some muscles too strong making others weaker?

[msstate7]

Riley's 70 Raw Power grade on fangraphs could be accurate

[TURBO]

Riley needs that boomstick picture that we used years ago for Glaus

[CrimsonCowboy]

Maybe instead of talking about trading Inciarte, maybe it's Donaldson who should be in the conversation............

[Enscheff]

Riley also doesn’t care that he isn’t supposed to hit a HR every other game.

[zbhargrove]

Riley’s trying to do his best Aaron Judge impression at the plate

[thewupk]

Riley's 70 Raw Power grade on fangraphs could be accurate

indeed

[thethe]

Maybe instead of talking about trading Inciarte, maybe it's Donaldson who should be in the conversation............

Doubt anyone trades for him but i hope he doesnt accept the qual offer.

[CyYoung31]

Maybe instead of talking about trading Inciarte, maybe it's Donaldson who should be in the conversation............

Please stop.

[msstate7]

What was distance and EV on Riley hr?

[Enscheff]

Maybe instead of talking about trading Inciarte, maybe it's Donaldson who should be in the conversation............


Doubt anyone trades for him but i hope he doesnt accept the qual offer.

Aaaand we are spiraling down the clv-derp drain of stupidity.

[thethe]

Why would anyonr throw albies down in the zone?

[thewupk]

What was distance and EV on Riley hr?

109 and 428

[thewupk]

Please stop.

they won't stop.

[Enscheff]

This is a legit hard decision with this Soroka PA. I lean towards leaving him in for 1 more inning.

[TheBravos]

Not that Donaldson is killing it right now....but how many 3rd basemen are better...not many...at all. He will heat up at some point also.

I will say he could benefit from a few days off here and there.

[msstate7]

109 and 428

Thanks

[Enscheff]

109 and 428


Seems to be about the max exit velocity for Riley. He’s a tick below JD and Acuna in raw power.

[msstate7]

Seems to be about the max exit velocity for Riley. He’s a rock below JD and Acuna in raw power.

Is max EV or avg EV better for a hitter?

[nsacpi]

This is a legit hard decision with this Soroka PA. I lean towards leaving him in for 1 more inning.
I would have pinch hit. Webb, Newk and Jackson are all rested.

[thewupk]

Not that Donaldson is killing it right now....but how many 3rd basemen are better...not many...at all. He will heat up at some point also.

I will say he could benefit from a few days off here and there.

There are quite a few 3B playing better. Not that it matters that much as Josh is still earning his contract. Just not exceeding it like I had hoped.

[CrimsonCowboy]

Aaaand we are spiraling down the clv-derp drain of stupidity.

To be fair, I wasn't serious. Not entirely anyway:icon_biggrin:

[CrimsonCowboy]

Please stop.

Nah:happy0157:

[bravesfanMatt]

Just got the game on finally so I glad he is going one more inning.

[Enscheff]

Newk vs the top of the lineup is the correct answer.

[TheBravos]

There are quite a few 3B playing better. Not that it matters that much as Josh is still earning his contract. Just not exceeding it like I had hoped.

Yeah, but the point is he can heat up at any time. A cold Donaldson is still better than most. I just think he needs more days off and we have two great options to rest him any time.

[thethe]

Yay josh

[msstate7]

Donaldson, come on mane

[CrimsonCowboy]

Even when he was not at this best, Soroka was pretty dang good

[Enscheff]

I would have pinch hit. Webb, Newk and Jackson are all rested.

Tough choice. 3 run lead makes the PA less important. I like a tiring Soroka vs RHH a third time better than any option in the BP.
Newk needs to face the top of the lineup though.

[thewupk]

Yeah, but the point is he can heat up at any time. A cold Donaldson is still better than most. I just think he needs more days off and we have two great options to rest him any time.

I agree. When he gets hot he is one of the best hitters around. Hopefully we get that soon.

[bravesfanMatt]

There are quite a few 3B playing better. Not that it matters that much as Josh is still earning his contract. Just not exceeding it like I had hoped.

That didn’t age well.

[CrimsonCowboy]

Newk vs the top of the lineup is the correct answer.

Snit apparently saw you post

[TheBravos]

Gausman’s/Folty’s bad game ....7 runs over three innings.

Soroka’s bad game....3 runs over 7

[Enscheff]

There are quite a few 3B playing better. Not that it matters that much as Josh is still earning his contract. Just not exceeding it like I had hoped.


I wanted Grandal and someone cheap like Mous.

Just looked at the 3b in the league...so many good players going right now.

[TheBravos]

That didn’t age well.

He is just pressing. He’ll be fine. I just don’t think he will ever be the MVP player again, but still a very good player.

[bravesfanMatt]

That didn’t age well.

Damnit. Quoted wrong post.

[thewupk]

Is max EV or avg EV better for a hitter?

Avg EV. Consistent hard contact is the name of the game.

Riley had an Avg EV of 94 entering today and that would tie him for 4th with Gary Sanchez if he qualified for it.

[msstate7]

I miss ender

[TheBravos]

Goodrum good gosh

[thethe]

Donaldson is trash

[CrimsonCowboy]

That is where we miss Ender.

Great job, Donaldson

[thewupk]

That didn’t age well.

One play means he isn't earning his contract now?

[CyYoung31]

Acuna is trash.

[thewupk]

Acuna is trash.

an avg cf makes that play.

our current outfield defense is lacking to say the least

[TheBravos]

No....Gausman is trash.

[bravesfanMatt]

One play means he isn't earning his contract now?

Tongue and check and supposed to quote the guy saying JD playing better than any other 3B. Then literally bones a play. I love irony.

[msstate7]

Come on acuna

[CyYoung31]

an avg cf makes that play.

our current outfield defense is lacking to say the least

Must make AA physically ill.

[bravesfanMatt]

an avg cf makes that play.

our current outfield defense is lacking to say the least

Where was Neck? I think an average RF might make it there. I would have to watch replay though.

[msstate7]

Where was Neck? I think an average RF might make it there. I would have to watch replay though.

Tv said he was on the line

[CrimsonCowboy]

Dansby gets the run back

[nsacpi]

3 RHH for the Tigers top off 8th. Bring in Webb.

[bravesfanMatt]

Come on acuna

Leadoff spot is too much pressure. Needs to hit second.

[msstate7]

Dansby might become a good hitter

[bravesfanMatt]

Monster.

[CyYoung31]

Remember when Snit ordered Seitzer to work with Acuna on his swing last year? He needs to do it again.

[bravesfanMatt]

JD is trash. Can’t even get it out of the infield.

[msstate7]

Don't even care that was an out. Just happy Donaldson knocked the crap out of it. We need him and acuna to start hitting line drives

[nsacpi]

Dansby might become a good hitter

looks like I stopped betting against him at the right time

[Enscheff]

JD is fine, that ball was hammered

[CyYoung31]

JD is fine, that ball was hammered

He’s not lifting anything.

[msstate7]

Acuna can't stay in cf

[CrimsonCowboy]

Geez Ronald. His CF play needs work

[msstate7]

You what we look like right now defensively? Last year's Phillies team

[TheBravos]

Uuuuugly

[CyYoung31]

Do I have to continue to watch Acuna in the outfield?

[salmagundy]

I call BS. Dixon given a DBL.

[PurpleBrave]

Time to bump the 25 million dollar man to 6th in the order and move Riley to cleanup

[CrimsonCowboy]

Wash, or whooever, needs to work with him before tomorrow's game. Acuna is too good a player to screw up in center the way he does.

[Freshmaker]

Do I have to continue to watch Acuna in the outfield?

We should trade Donaldson, move Acuna to 1st and Freddie to 3rd

[GeorgiaGirl]

Lmao, unless it's a last resort, Ronald probably doesn't need to play CF ever again after this year.

He is SUPER rough around the edges at every outfield spot.

[salmagundy]

Do I have to continue to watch Acuna in the outfield?

Ender has been cleared for baseball activities

[msstate7]

Bullpen and defense are major question marks

[CyYoung31]

Every aspect of Acuna’s game right now is terrible, and no one seems to be calling him out on it. Yet they’ll bitch about Donaldson getting on base at a .380 clip while playing good defense.

[msstate7]

Unless Riley comes back to earth, the obvious move is Riley in lf, ender in cf, and acuna in rf. Would snit dare make that move?

[GeorgiaGirl]

Ender has been cleared for baseball activities

I doubt he's back for at least 2 more weeks. I say he works out for this next week, then the week after goes out to Gwinnett for rehab.

So it's 2 more weeks of bad defense in CF, then we'll see if health helps bring back Ender's elite CF defense.

[Freshmaker]

Can we please not blow this game

[Freshmaker]

Snit with the bold decision to double-switch out Donaldson for Caharga

[CyYoung31]

Snit with the bold decision to double-switch out Donaldson for Caharga

Instead of Culberson or Joyce for Riley. Bold move, Cotton.

[nsacpi]

Snit with the bold decision to double-switch out Donaldson for Caharga

what would Fredi have done

[Freshmaker]

:FrediPuzzled:

[TheBravos]

Remember when many wanted to give a bounty for Fulmer?

[TheBravos]

Ok....trade Donaldson

[CrimsonCowboy]

Camargo needed that

[CyYoung31]

How the hell does MLB not have multiple people in New York for reviewing calls.

[CrimsonCowboy]

That will look like a line drive in the score book

[Freshmaker]

Acuna!

[50PoundHead]

Looks like we splurged on an insurance policy.

[nsacpi]

so lift Jackson so he is available tomorrow? I would

[salmagundy]

Camargo needed that

The Braves needed that from Camargo

[CyYoung31]

so lift Jackson so he is available tomorrow? I would

Yes, but I bet you he won’t because he wants to guarantee a win.

[TheBravos]

Yes, but I bet you he won’t because he wants to guarantee a win.

After three straight ugly loses...I can’t blame him.

[TheBravos]

So we received Jackson from Texas for Tyrell Jenkins. So Shelby Miller actually got us Dansby, Ender, Blair and Jackson....haha!!

[CrimsonCowboy]

http://i.imgur.com/P6x0U.gif

[TURBO]

https://media.giphy.com/media/vzuqin231fC92/giphy.gif

[bravesfanMatt]

Jackson is going to look good with a rested Kimbrel and repaired minter and sobo. Touki and Newk will round out our stud pen.

[Freshmaker]

https://media.giphy.com/media/fpLSIPAzAioAo/giphy.gif

[50PoundHead]

Well, all I can say is that was some serious closing by Jackson.

[bravesfanforlife88]

https://media.giphy.com/media/12QBgS1xGmP0rK/giphy.gif

Using the bloody Ric Flair this time. We’ve gotten our asses kicked the past few days

[AerchAngel]

Glaus, I mean Riley is doing it every other game.

Geez, he can go the other way to yard, 400+ feet. Is he really that strong?

[NinersSBChamps]

Riley making Donaldson obsolete.

[AerchAngel]

Riley making Donaldson obsolete.

kind of. Bob Horner.

[UNCBlue012]

Soroka’s bad game was 6.2 IP with 3 ER lol

[CyYoung31]

Soroka’s bad game was 6.2 IP with 3 ER lol

Against a AA lineup.

[GeorgiaGirl]

I don’t really think that was Soroka’s worst start, although it is by numbers. He looked quite bad at times the second time he faced Arizona. I think that still is his worst start to me.

I do think he didn’t look at his best at times though today. He was giving up hard hit balls and he was maybe lucky he didn’t give up a 2 run HR, but I thought he was settling in during the 4th. Then the pitcher gets a very stupid chopper hit and Stewart gets a bloop single that was 70 MPH. The 4th and last inning and two/thirds (should’ve been two full IP though ☹), were outstanding by him.

[Enscheff]

Unless Riley comes back to earth, the obvious move is Riley in lf, ender in cf, and acuna in rf. Would snit dare make that move?

Just be sure to let us know when Riley “comes back to earth”, preferably before he goes through a poor 20 PA stretch in the 4thspot.

[NinersSBChamps]

Unless Riley comes back to earth, the obvious move is Riley in lf, ender in cf, and acuna in rf. Would snit dare make that move?

Maybe this is earth for him.

[Slippyjms]

Unless Riley comes back to earth, the obvious move is Riley in lf, ender in cf, and acuna in rf. Would snit dare make that move?

I don’t know that the obvious move is having Ender in the everyday lineup over Markakis although it’s a potential option. He should definitely be in for late game defense though.

[msstate7]

I don’t know that the obvious move is having Ender in the everyday lineup over Markakis although it’s a potential option. He should definitely be in for late game defense though.

Yeah, "obviously" is a strong word. The outfield defense is pretty terrible at the moment though, so I think ender in cf is a priority

[thewupk]

If ender plays how he has so far then in no way should he be starting over anyone right now.

[Slippyjms]

Yeah, "obviously" is a strong word. The outfield defense is pretty terrible at the moment though, so I think ender in cf is a priority

I’m not sure Ender in CF is a priority but I definitely see upgrading the OF defense as one. Hopefully Acuna can improve in CF as the year goes on. He’s athletic enough to handle the position he just needs to refine his defensive game. Beyond that maybe a trade for a strong offensive and defensive CF.

[Jaw]

Much like the five Tigers batters he faced, I am blown away by what Luke Jackson is doing.

[Hulavol]

Dodgers walk em off.

[Enscheff]

Ender will need a rehab stint in AAA soon. How he looks there will have a lot to do with how he’s used when deemed ready.

Of course, if Riley is still hitting a bomb every other game, he isn’t going to sit. Something tells me the Braves will be ready to welcome back a healthy Inciarte in 2-3 weeks though.

[thethe]

Are there EV figures for opposite field barrels?