FRIDAY MINORS FINAL 6/28/19; ANDERSON ANCHORS NO-HITTER!

[rico43]

TFRIDAY SCOREBOARD
All Times Eastern

CLASS AAA

Gwinnett 8, Indianapolis 1

WP: Wright (5-4) 7.2 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 8 K
Creasy 1.1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 K

Duvall 2-3, 2 HR (23rd,24th), 6 RBI
Jackson 1-4, HR (15th), 2 RBI
Ortega 1-2, 2B, R, 2 BB

CLASS AA
NO-HITTER!

Mississippi 2, Jackson 0

WP: Anderson (6-5) 7 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 14 K (103 P)
Walker (Save, 6) 2 IP, 0 R, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 K

Pache 2-4, 2B, HR (11th), 2 RBI
Waters 0-4, 3 K
Unroe 1-2, BB

ADVANCED CLASS A

Tampa 6, Florida 5 (10)

SP: Kingham 8 IP, 8 H, 4 ER, 0 BB, 8 K
McLaughlin 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 1 K
LP: Borkovich (2-2) 0 IP, 1 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 0 K

Ramos 1-4, 2 RBI
Lugbauer 2-4, R, RBI
Harris 1-2, 2 R, 3 BB
Brown 2-5

CLASS A

Rome 4, Greenville 3

SP: Rangel 5 IP, 7 H, 3 ER, 2 BB, 4 K
Lawson 2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 2K
WP: Shetter (2-0) 2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 3 K

Dean 2-4, 3 R, 3 SB
Shewmake 3-5, 2B, R, 2 RBI
Langeliers 1-5, RBI
Montesino 2-3

SHORT-SEASON

GCL Braves 3, GCL Rays 2

SP: Asencio 2.2 IP, 4 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 3 K
Pena 2.1 IP, 4 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 4 K
Bryant 2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 K
WP: C. De La Cruz (1-0) 2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K

Harris 2-4, RBI, OF assist
Paolini 1-4, R
Berne 1-3, HR (1st), RBI
Stevens 1-4, 2B, RBI
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Danville 3, Pulaski 2

SP: Barger 3 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 4 K
Gordon 2 IP, 1 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 1 K, HR
WP: Jerez (2-0) 2 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 2 K
Kurz (Save, 1) 2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 4 K

Reyes 1-3, 2B, RBI
Palma 1-3, SB

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DSL Braves 6, DSL Royals 4

SP: Munoz 4.1 IP, 4 H, 3 ER, 3 BB, 5 K
WP: Alesandro (1-1) 1.1 IP, 1 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 3 K
Rodriguez (Save, 2) 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 0 K

Medina 2-2, R, RBI
Ruiz 2-3, 2 R

[50PoundHead]

GCL Braves break into the win column with a 3-2 win. Harris and Mezquita continue to hit (as does Eliezel Stevens when he makes contact). All zeroes from the bullpen including two scoreless IPs from Chadwick Bryant in his pro debut. Bryant was drafted three times: by the Rangers in the 39th round in 2017, by the A's in the 34th round in 2018, and by the Braves in the 25th round this year.

[jpx7]

GCL Braves break into the win column with a 3-2 win. Harris and Mezquita continue to hit (as does Eliezel Stevens when he makes contact). All zeroes from the bullpen including two scoreless IPs from Chadwick Bryant in his pro debut. Bryant was drafted three times: by the Rangers in the 39th round in 2017, by the A's in the 34th round in 2018, and by the Braves in the 25th round this year.

Nice to see Paolini get on the board, too.

[CJ9]

Kalich from GCL to Rome. Unfortunately happened because Vodnik is on the DL.

[IslandBrave]

Anderson and Pache named to Futures Squad

[Tapate50]

Anderson and Pache named to Futures Squad

No waters?

[thewupk]

No waters?
Clearly not good enough

[bravesfanMatt]

No waters?

Maybe he is part of the present

[50PoundHead]

No waters?

They dammed up Waters, but he'll go with the flow.

[CJ9]

Waters is striking out a ton lately.

[CJ9]

Homer #11 for Pache.

[Jay212033]

Ian Anderson.........WOW!!!

[CJ9]

Lot of good news tonight so far — Wright and anderson dealing, Pache homer, Shewmake still hitting, Duvall two homers.

[buck75]

Ian Anderson.........WOW!!!

Anderson and Wright gittin it dun

[50PoundHead]

Ian Anderson.........WOW!!!

Big night. Done after 7 no-hit IP. 14 K, 2 BB. 103 P, 66 S/37 B. 7 GO/1 FO.

[UNCBlue012]

Big night. Done after 7 no-hit IP. 14 K, 2 BB. 103 P, 66 S/37 B. 7 GO/1 FO. that’s bonkers.

[CJ9]

Jeremy Walker with two perfect innings and two Ks to complete the no hitter for Mississippi. Walker has some good numbers. Lot of ground balls and walking 0.6 per 9 this year.

[Heyward]

Big night. Done after 7 no-hit IP. 14 K, 2 BB. 103 P, 66 S/37 B. 7 GO/1 FO.

He's the real deal.

[50PoundHead]

Walker finishes off the no-hitter for Mississippi. M-Braves win 2-0.

[jpack1]

Now that’s a performance from Anderson. WOW

[Hudson2]

Anderson went off! Pache’s power has went up big time over the past 2 years. If he gets to 20 in AA he might be a top 10 prospect in baseball with his defense.

[CJ9]

Funny to think Pache is doing this and hasn’t even hit the Triple A/big league ball yet.

[BeanieAntics]

Funny to think Pache is doing this and hasn’t even hit the Triple A/big league ball yet.

Do you think he could be the first prospect of all time to have unanimous 80 grade everything?

I'm just doing thethe's job for him.

[thethe]

Do you think he could be the first prospect of all time to have unanimous 80 grade everything?

I'm just doing thethe's job for him.

By the time hes ready for the show theyll create a new grade for him

[striker42]

I like the 2 BBs from Anderson more than the 14 Ks or no hit innings. We know he can miss bats.

[thewupk]

Do you think he could be the first prospect of all time to have unanimous 80 grade everything?

I'm just doing thethe's job for him.

Pache will clearly surpass Andruw as the best prospect ever

[thethe]

Is Ian Anderson basically the best pitching prospect ever now?

[thewupk]

Is Ian Anderson basically the best pitching prospect ever now?

he's Pedro reincarnate

[thethe]

he's Pedro reincarnate

Insulting to Ian.

[Tapate50]

Kingham with a good start as well. Everyone kinda overshadowed by IA.

[msstate7]

Still a small sample, but here's Wright's last 3 starts...
19.1 ip 10 h 4 er 5 bb 24 k
Era = 1.88
Whip = 0.79
K9 = 11.2
Bb9 = 2.3

If he has put it together, it could be a massive deal for the braves going into the 2nd half

[atl717]

I am still not super high on Anderson. Fastball sits low 90s and it's pretty straight.

[Oklahomabrave]

I am still not super high on Anderson. Fastball sits low 90s and it's pretty straight.
Strongly agree, I’d way rather sell high on Anderson than low on Wright.

[msstate7]

I am still not super high on Anderson. Fastball sits low 90s and it's pretty straight.

He's got some pitch(es) guys can't hit... milb career k9 of 10.8 and BAA of .210

[thethe]

Still a small sample, but here's Wright's last 3 starts...
19.1 ip 10 h 4 er 5 bb 24 k
Era = 1.88
Whip = 0.79
K9 = 11.2
Bb9 = 2.3

If he has put it together, it could be a massive deal for the braves going into the 2nd half

Need to just leave him in AAA all year and if we need someone to be a relief pitcher in late August call him up. Maybe he was hurt but the dude looked shell shocked in the rotation and if may have took him a month or two to recover.

I'm fine with him coming into Spring Training next year with the chance to win a rotation spot. For now there are enough options to make something work in the rotation.

Soroka
Fried
Keuchel
Gausman
Teheran
Newk
Folty
Wilson
Trade (Hopefully Bumgarner)

[thethe]

I am still not super high on Anderson. Fastball sits low 90s and it's pretty straight.

The results are the results and the guy is striking out almost 12 per 9 innings. There is just no way his stuff is not plus and getting those results.

If we are able to get a young piece who is controllable with Anderson as the centerpiece then fine but there is no way we should be looking to trade this kid.

[thethe]

He's got some pitch(es) guys can't hit... milb career k9 of 10.8 and BAA of .210

This - Its not a Chuck James left hander changeup smoke and mirrors thing.

Guy has a legit arsenal.

[nsacpi]

Pache is gonna reach top 20 or top 10 status soon

[thethe]

Pache is gonna reach top 20 or top 10 status soon

65 FV easy

[jpx7]

(Hopefully Bumgarner)

Why?

[thethe]

Why?

Because he is ****ing awesome!!! :)

I know the numbers. I understand the numbers. I assure you of both of those statements whether some on this board want to doubt my abilities within the field of Mathematics.

However, I do believe there are other factors to consider and Bumgarner continues to move away from his injuries and will continue to return so some percentage of his older form which will be a huge asset down the stretch and in the playoffs.

[thewupk]

The results are the results and the guy is striking out almost 12 per 9 innings. There is just no way his stuff is not plus and getting those results.

If we are able to get a young piece who is controllable with Anderson as the centerpiece then fine but there is no way we should be looking to trade this kid.

I'm not saying hes allard. But the results are the same reason you pimped him when the entire scouting community soured on him.

[50PoundHead]

Rumors up here are that Twins are heavily in on Bumgarner and they are not on the no-trade list of teams that Bumgarner has indicated. Twins are really poised to overpay and I wouldn't be surprised to see them part with someone like Sano (who has fallen out of favor even though he's hitting HRs at a brisk pace) in a larger deal that would include Bumgarner, Smith, and others. I would be fine with Bumgarner, but I'm not going to overpay for the guy and that is likely. Let someone else overpay.

[Oklahomabrave]

Rumors up here are that Twins are heavily in on Bumgarner and they are not on the no-trade list of teams that Bumgarner has indicated. Twins are really poised to overpay and I wouldn't be surprised to see them part with someone like Sano (who has fallen out of favor even though he's hitting HRs at a brisk pace) in a larger deal that would include Bumgarner, Smith, and others. I would be fine with Bumgarner, but I'm not going to overpay for the guy and that is likely. Let someone else overpay.

Really hoping the Twins or Yankees get him to remove us from his list of suitors and remove competition for the other better and controllable pieces.

[msstate7]

I'm not saying hes allard. But the results are the same reason you pimped him when the entire scouting community soured on him.

Fangraphs has him as a 55.

[50PoundHead]

Anyone have a scouting report on Jeremy Walker? It's his first year in the bullpen after middling results as a starter his first three seasons and what he's doing is pretty impressive. Just wondering if anyone has seen him pitch and what he may have to offer. Another one of those big RHPs that Roy Clark and company seemed to like.

[thethe]

I'm not saying hes allard. But the results are the same reason you pimped him when the entire scouting community soured on him.

The numbers aren't even close.

[thethe]

Rumors up here are that Twins are heavily in on Bumgarner and they are not on the no-trade list of teams that Bumgarner has indicated. Twins are really poised to overpay and I wouldn't be surprised to see them part with someone like Sano (who has fallen out of favor even though he's hitting HRs at a brisk pace) in a larger deal that would include Bumgarner, Smith, and others. I would be fine with Bumgarner, but I'm not going to overpay for the guy and that is likely. Let someone else overpay.

If Sano is the starting point for those two then I would agree the Braves should be out.

[Chico]

I feel bad for Duvall. Hopefully we trade the guy before the deadline.

[nsacpi]

I feel bad for Duvall. Hopefully we trade the guy before the deadline.

Basically we have 2 spare position players. One was called up when Inciarte was injured. If we have 2 position players injured at the same time Duvall would be called up. We've been lucky with injuries so far this year. We cant assume that luck will continue.

[smootness]

I'm not saying hes allard. But the results are the same reason you pimped him when the entire scouting community soured on him.

Yeah, but the scouting community hasn't soured on Anderson at all. So if that was the reason for concern with Allard, we shouldn't have that same concern here, no?

[striker42]

I feel bad for Duvall. Hopefully we trade the guy before the deadline.

I have no idea why we tendered him a contract. It makes no sense to pay him what we are to sit in AAA.

[50PoundHead]

If Sano is the starting point for those two then I would agree the Braves should be out.

I don't know if Sano is the starting point in a Bumgarner deal. It is just rumored that the Twins are very willing to move Sano. The Twins do have a number of movable parts with the emergence of Polanco and his agreement to a long-term deal. That might put either Gordon or Lewis into the conversation. Twins also have some interesting arms that they would be less likely to move given the paucity of pitching depth at the big league level, but indications are that the Twins will be attempting to make a big move to upgrade their rotation and bullpen.

[striker42]

He's got some pitch(es) guys can't hit... milb career k9 of 10.8 and BAA of .210

This is why I want to see the statcast data on Anderson. See if the fastball moves, the spin rate on the curve, etc.

[50PoundHead]

I have no idea why we tendered him a contract. It makes no sense to pay him what we are to sit in AAA.

I don't think anyone counted on the emergence of Riley to the extent he has. I was somewhat surprised that they tendered Duvall, but I can see the logic as to why they did. If Riley doesn't go hog wild at Gwinnett, Duvall probably gets the call when Inciarte got hurt.

[nsacpi]

it would be smart of the giants to bundle Bumgarner and one of their relievers to get the best possible prospect

the Braves are better off making a deal with one of the less smart front offices...oh hi Dayton

[nsacpi]

I don't think anyone counted on the emergence of Riley to the extent he has. I was somewhat surprised that they tendered Duvall, but I can see the logic as to why they did. If Riley doesn't go hog wild at Gwinnett, Duvall probably gets the call when Inciarte got hurt.

chances are Duvall will come into play in the second half or post-season...I'm not eager to move him

[clvclv]

Personally have no interest in moving Anderson since he fits the "wave" model so well - bring him along slowly and let him spend all of 2020 in Gwinnett unless there's a major emergency, and he's your ready-made replacement for Gausman that will only be making the minimum in 2021. However, if the spin-rate numbers are really bad like folks were discussing early this year (legitimately so bad that AA honestly believes it's worth holding onto Touki, Wright, Wilson, and Gohara instead), what COULD he get you?

Vazquez is going to be unbelievably hard to pry away from Pittsburgh for anyone poking around on him - could Anderson be part of changing that? That contract is insane, and having him locked up along with Acuna and Ozzie's deals would provide even more flexibility. If you could add Vazquez and Smith to the back of this year's pen, I'm not sure this team wouldn't have as good a chance as anyone to win the whole enchilada.

[50PoundHead]

it would be smart of the giants to bundle Bumgarner and one of their relievers to get the best possible prospect

the Braves are better off making a deal with one of the less smart front offices...oh hi Dayton

That's what I see the Giants doing. I can envision them packaging Bumgarner, Watson/Smith, and maybe even Pillar if they find a taker for a 3-prospect deal. That spells overpay by someone to me.

[GeorgiaGirl]

Anderson might be a similar case to Fried in that his off speed pitches will make him who he is, not the fastball...

[Enscheff]

14 Ks in 7 IPs is certainly attention grabbing.

Anderson is the one guy I most want to see real statcast data.

[Enscheff]

Yeah, but the scouting community hasn't soured on Anderson at all. So if that was the reason for concern with Allard, we shouldn't have that same concern here, no?

There has been 2nd hand statcast data revealed about Anderson that is less than stellar. It is fair to question how good the stuff is. Allard has terrible stuff and was able to get good results in AAA that fooled a lot of people, and once we saw MLB statcast data on him it was blatantly obvious he wasn’t good enough to succeed.

I need to see 80+ pitches of MLB data for Anderson and then I’ll have a very good idea of the type of pitcher he profiles to become.

[Enscheff]

Anderson might be a similar case to Fried in that his off speed pitches will make him who he is, not the fastball...

The 2nd hand statcast data suggests the breaking ball isn’t great. Take it with a grain of salt until we see data ourselves though.

[striker42]

The 2nd hand statcast data suggests the breaking ball isn’t great. Take it with a grain of salt until we see data ourselves though.

I've read where some say his changeup has passed his curve these days. I'm with you, I want to see the data.

I projected him as a number 3 when we drafted him. I still think that's pretty reasonable.