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57Brave
11-27-2013, 07:14 AM
Does the religious wing of (R) have the muscle to decide whether women have Birth Control rights?

IS it really about "birth control" ?

weso1
11-27-2013, 08:34 AM
Are you talking about the supreme court battle? That's not about women having birth control rights, it's about being mandated to buy something that they don't support because of their religion.

Krgrecw
11-27-2013, 08:53 AM
I think they do. Cardinal Dolan could have a big rally about this subject if he wanted to. He can put 'separation of church and state' in the public media if he wanted to but didn't Obama buy him off by not enforcing full ACA against Catholic hospitals?

zitothebrave
11-27-2013, 08:58 AM
This is the dumbest fight ever. Just because someone doesn't personally believe in birth control doesn't mean that their insurance they use can't provide it. A way more interesting debate would be from an insurance company.

sturg33
11-27-2013, 09:28 AM
Birth control is not a "right" of anyone.

zitothebrave
11-27-2013, 09:32 AM
It has nothing to do with rights and everything to do with common sense. More people with access to birth control less people draining money from the government.

sturg33
11-27-2013, 09:37 AM
It has nothing to do with rights and everything to do with common sense. More people with access to birth control less people draining money from the government.

That's fine. Mine girlfriend is on birth control and I support it. But that doesn't mean you or I should help pay for it.

thethe
11-27-2013, 09:39 AM
That's fine. Mine girlfriend is on birth control and I support it. But that doesn't mean you or I should help pay for it.

Nope, we are a victim of our hard work. We are supposed to pay for everything for everyone else!

50PoundHead
11-27-2013, 10:02 AM
Count me among those who believe this has less to do with birth control and more with the argument that corporations are "people" as defined by law under the Citizens United decision. They were held to have free speech rights and now the fight is whether or not they are going to have religious rights.

yeezus
11-27-2013, 02:21 PM
Nope, we are a victim of our hard work. We are supposed to pay for everything for everyone else!

this isn't about that. stop playing the victim. you're not a victim.
insurance covers a lot of things you don't use. why not get all upset about all of them?

thethe
11-27-2013, 05:04 PM
this isn't about that. stop playing the victim. you're not a victim.
insurance covers a lot of things you don't use. why not get all upset about all of them?

Don't worry my friend. I was like you when I was your age. Then I started actually working and realizing That hard work gets you what you need and that more people can do it than actually do. You'll change.

goldfly
11-27-2013, 06:55 PM
Are you talking about the supreme court battle? That's not about women having birth control rights, it's about being mandated to buy something that they don't support because of their religion.

do i get to choose that none of my taxes goes to the bull**** defense budget if i claim it is against my religion?

weso1
11-27-2013, 07:10 PM
do i get to choose that none of my taxes goes to the bull**** defense budget if i claim it is against my religion?

I guess you could bring it to the Supreme Court and see what happens.

weso1
11-27-2013, 07:11 PM
BTW... I do support easy access and free birth control for the poor.

Oklahomahawk
11-27-2013, 07:22 PM
BTW... I do support easy access and free birth control for the poor.

Socialist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

weso1
11-27-2013, 07:42 PM
Socialist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I also believe that government should own all land.

keithlaw
11-27-2013, 10:01 PM
bitches gotta take their cunt pills. i aint wearin no gunny sack

Metaphysicist
11-27-2013, 11:41 PM
I also believe that government should own all land.

The fact that you still believe in the concept of ownership says it all... poseur

zitothebrave
11-28-2013, 07:30 AM
Nope, we are a victim of our hard work. We are supposed to pay for everything for everyone else!

You want to pay for birth control, a relatively small cost or keep supporting the welfare system? Or let thousands of babies die. You have 3 choices, 2 of them are cheap, one is oppressively cruel.

Oklahomahawk
11-28-2013, 11:26 AM
I also believe that government should own all land.

Now we're getting somewhere!!! :icon_biggrin: