GDT 8-9.... JULIO BLACKENS THE FISH IN CAJUN GOODNESS.....

[Hulavol]

1. Ronald Acuna Jr. (R) RF
2. Ozzie Albies (S) 2B
3. Freddie Freeman (L) 1B
4. Josh Donaldson (R) 3B
5. Adam Duvall (R) LF
6. Charlie Culberson (R) SS
7. Tyler Flowers (R) C
8. Ender Inciarte (L) CF
9. Julio Teheran (R) P

[Enscheff]

I wonder if the plan is to make Culberson play the role of RHH OFer when Swanson returns.

[Hulavol]

I wonder if the plan is to make Culberson play the role of RHH OFer when Swanson returns.

I suspect that is exactly the plan...

[gcbraves]

I suspect that is exactly the plan...

If so I hope it happens VERY soon.

[CyYoung31]

I wonder if the plan is to make Culberson play the role of RHH OFer when Swanson returns.

https://media1.giphy.com/media/3o84sw9CmwYpAnRRni/giphy.gif

[msstate7]

I wonder if the plan is to make Culberson play the role of RHH OFer when Swanson returns.

My theory is Duda was signed to be a lh ph, so we can platoon duvall/Joyce

[Enscheff]

Duvall's .288/.321/.615 (.937 OPS) line with the .345 BABIP regressed to .275 and the 26.3% HR/FB rate regressed to ~16% (2 HRs changed to 1 2B and 1 fly out) is...

.212/.250/.442 (.692 OPS)

That lines up pretty well with his .315 xwOBA (~.320 is MLB average).

Needless to say the Braves needed another OFer at the deadline.

[Enscheff]

Markakis has posted a .365 xwOBA vs RHP in 2019, good for 4th best on the team (behind only the true stars Freeman, JD and Acuna).

He has been very effective against RHP, and it isn't his fault Snit has failed to rest him vs LHP (a terrible .292 xwOBA against) to limit his exposure to them.

The Braves needed a RHH OFer all year, have made several failed attempts at finding that hitter, and then failed to add one at the deadline. Now they are running a below average hitter out there everyday in the middle of a playoff chase.

[nsacpi]

expecting a yuge game from Acuña

[Enscheff]

When Swanson returns, the correct OF deployment strategy is probably...

vs RHP:
Joyce LF
Ender CF
Acuna RF

If a LHP is brought in to face Joyce, immediately counter with Duvall, who would be the defensive sub late in the game anyways. If a LHP is brought in to face Ender in a high leverage situation, PH with Culberson/Camargo and switch Acuna to CF.

vs LHP:
Culberson LF
Acuna CF
Duvall RF

If a RHP is brought in to face Culberson or (especially) Duvall in a low/medium leverage situation, counter with Inciarte to play CF and shift Acuna to RF. If a RHP is brought in to face Duvall/Culberson in a high leverage situation, counter with Joyce, and then double switch the P/CF positions with Ender and a BP arm.

That's what the Dodgers would do...

[The Chosen One]

When Swanson returns, the correct OF deployment strategy is probably...

vs RHP:
Joyce LF
Ender CF
Acuna RF

If a LHP is brought in to face Joyce, immediately counter with Duvall, who would be the defensive sub late in the game anyways. If a LHP is brought in to face Ender in a high leverage situation, PH with Culberson/Camargo and switch Acuna to CF.

vs LHP:
Culberson LF
Acuna CF
Duvall RF

If a RHP is brought in to face Culberson or (especially) Duvall in a low/medium leverage situation, counter with Inciarte to play CF and shift Acuna to RF. If a RHP is brought in to face Duvall/Culberson in a high leverage situation, counter with Joyce, and then double switch the P/CF positions with Ender and a BP arm.

That's what the Dodgers would do...

I don't see any scenario where Snitker gives Joyce a start.

Maybe it's what the Dods would do. But not Snitkers.

[CyYoung31]

Lol, Mets fans are ecstatic about signing Joe Panik. Did no one tell them that he sucks ass?

[nsacpi]

Lol, Mets fans are ecstatic about signing Joe Panik. Did no one tell them that he sucks ass?

Metropolitans fans have been clamoring for this for days. They are unanimous in their conviction he is the final piece of the puzzle. He is a local boy. No one is more parochial than a New Yorker.

[salmagundy]

Duvall's .288/.321/.615 (.937 OPS) line with the .345 BABIP regressed to .275 and the 26.3% HR/FB rate regressed to ~16% (2 HRs changed to 1 2B and 1 fly out) is...

.212/.250/.442 (.692 OPS)

That lines up pretty well with his .315 xwOBA (~.320 is MLB average).

Needless to say the Braves needed another OFer at the deadline.

But some say Duval is still hitting with authority.

[salmagundy]

Does Julio use Paul's personal blackening mix to do the Blackening?

Try this out on fish fillets, pork chops, boneless/skinless chicken breasts, or burgers. Fry in a little oil until black on both sides.

3 Tbls Paprika
2.5 Tbls Salt
1 Tbls Granulated garlic
3 Tbls Cayenne pepper
.75 Tbls white pepper
.75 Black pepper
.5 Tbls Oregano
.5 Tbls Thyme

[CyYoung31]

This son of a bitch is going in the first round.

[CyYoung31]

HEY FOLKS, OZZIE ALBIES HIT A HR

DON’T ACT SO EXCITED

JFC

[USMA76]

HEY FOLKS, OZZIE ALBIES HIT A HR

DON’T ACT SO EXCITED

JFC

Yawn...it barely cleared the left field fence.

[CyYoung31]

Yawn...it barely cleared the left field fence.

I was wondering if SAV had banned everyone.

[The Chosen One]

I was wondering if SAV had banned everyone.

Not everyone. Just half. Restore Balance.

[salmagundy]

Ozzie hits #18 in 1st!!! WOW!!!

[chop2chip]

Brian Anderson would be the perfect player for this year’s club.

[The Chosen One]

Ok Tehearn I see you.

[CyYoung31]

Ozzie hits #18 in 1st!!! WOW!!!

Thank you.

[Jay212033]

Brian Anderson would be the perfect player for this year’s club.

Yep. I was hoping AA made a last min deal for Anderson.

[CyYoung31]

Did Ender run?

[AerchAngel]

Did Ender run?

Cy, he pulled an Andruw Jones of not hustling.

Cox would have pulled him but I saw what you saw.

[chop2chip]

One of my favorite thing about showing traditional statistics as opposed to the advanced metrics, is how these dinosaurs will show “99.3% fielding percentage” instead of “99%” as if there’s a tangible difference between the two.

[USMA76]

Did Ender run?

If he did, it wasn't exactly the textbook example of "hustle."

[CyYoung31]

Cy, he pulled an Andruw Jones of not hustling.

Cox would have pulled him but I saw what you saw.

He was pulled last year for not hustling. Snitker may be giving him the BoD because of his groin injury.

[USMA76]

He was pulled last year for not hustling. Snitker may be giving him the BoD because of his groin injury.

Babe of the Day? Oops, never mind.

[TURBO]

I like seeing they guys have fun with each other on the field.

[The Chosen One]

I like seeing they guys have fun with each other on the field.

Lol that long stare Ozzie gave to JD.

You ok bro?

[TURBO]

Was checking out the war leaders and didn't realize how good if a year Mike Minor is having.

[thewupk]

So albies has 3 homers in 2+ games after acuna called him out for not being strong enough after that triple high off the wall in Minnesota.

[USMA76]

Meanwhile in Flushing, Stroman has struck out seven of the first nine Nats he's faced in his Citi Field debut.

Didn't the Blue Jays take a pittance for Stroman in return for what they got from the Mets?

[bravesfanMatt]

Meanwhile in Flushing, Stroman has struck out seven of the first nine Nats he's faced in his Citi Field debut.

Didn't the Blue Jays take a pittance for Stroman in return for what they got from the Mets?

It was a terrible trade by the Mets. Until you saw what they gave up. Have no idea what the Jays were thinking.

[chop2chip]

Meanwhile in Flushing, Stroman has struck out seven of the first nine Nats he's faced in his Citi Field debut.

Didn't the Blue Jays take a pittance for Stroman in return for what they got from the Mets?

And per Reddit AA, the Braves offered an “overpay” for him and the Blue Jays didn’t as so much return a counter offer.

[USMA76]

And per Reddit AA, the Braves offered an “overpay” for him and the Blue Jays didn’t as so much return a counter offer.

I really don't get that. Why would they take less from NY than from Atlanta--some sort of retribution against former Toronto exec AA?

[salmagundy]

Ozzie with his 18th tonight. Needs only 2 more for 20. Can Swanson get back in time to hit 3 HRs?? That would give him 20 and be the 5th regular Brave to have 20 HRs this year.

Freddie needs 1 HR for 30, Josh needs 4 for 30.

[AerchAngel]

This ump sucks.

The last series, you could not complain much, they were consistent. They were borderline but they gave each side the benefit of doubt.

[Snowman]

I really don't get that. Why would they take less from NY than from Atlanta--some sort of retribution against former Toronto exec AA?

Aight, look. I don't believe this. I think it's BS. But you asked, and it was reported that originally the Blue Jays had set a policy of completely refusing to deal with the Braves ever as long as AA was here, but that towards the deadline they had softened on it some, deciding they would deal with the Braves but just demand a higher return from them than other teams.

[USMA76]

Aight, look. I don't believe this. I think it's BS. But you asked, and it was reported that originally the Blue Jays had set a policy of completely refusing to deal with the Braves ever as long as AA was here, but that towards the deadline they had softened on it some, deciding they would deal with the Braves but just demand a higher return from them than other teams.

If true, it's truly a case of "cutting off your nose to spite your face" or whatever the expression is. The other thing is that wasn't Stroman traded a couple of days prior to the deadline so it casts some doubt on the account of them softening as the deadline approached.

[Snowman]

Which, I don't know, at one point Suspenders had a list of like 3 agents who he refused to deal with under any circumstances (I agreed with him on one of them, FWIW), so maybe there's just more pettiness than I think.

[chop2chip]

This ump has a super wide zone tonight. That ball into Anderson called a strike was atrocious.

[USMA76]

This ump has a super wide zone tonight. That ball into Anderson called a strike was atrocious.

yep

[Snowman]

If true, it's truly a case of "cutting off your nose to spite your face" or whatever the expression is. The other thing is that wasn't Stroman traded a couple of days prior to the deadline so it casts some doubt on the account of them softening as the deadline approached.

Well, that latter is simply due to me being non-specific because I couldn't remember particulars. Finding it now, the softening was reported on 21 Jul, 10 days before the deadline.

I still think it was probably nonsense from the start, though.

[CyYoung31]

Julio was just teasing us with his under 40 pitches through 3.

[USMA76]

Castro certainly not out by much at second base on the force play that ended the bottom of the fourth. I was surprised Mattingly didn't at least take a look at it.

[CyYoung31]

Castro certainly not out by much at second base on the force play that ended the bottom of the fourth. I was surprised Mattingly didn't at least take a look at it.

Stop it.

[chop2chip]

I think my lasting memory of Braves’ baseball in the 10’s will be of Julio Teheran stranding runners on 1st and 2nd to end the inning.

[USMA76]

Stop it.

Stop what? I just said it thought it was close enough that the opposing team might have wanted to have taken a second look and was surprised that they didn't.

[CrimsonCowboy]

Think we caught a break

[CyYoung31]

Lol, Flowers. Don’t bother sliding.

[drewdat]

Flowers tagging was like a slow motion car crash. Pure dread.

[chop2chip]

Honestly, I think if Flow slides, he’s out. Can’t imagine those catcher’s knees allow him to slide with any agility.

[The Chosen One]

Ok Ronnie I see you.

[TURBO]

110 EV!

*Maybe Jeff was just speculating?

[CyYoung31]

Stop what? I just said it thought it was close enough that the opposing team might have wanted to have taken a second look and was surprised that they didn't.

Easy compadre. I’m just messing with you.

[USMA76]

Acuna now working on 40/40. I agree with Chip that the very questionable balk call rattled Smith.

[AerchAngel]

Ok Ronnie I see you.

Does he ever hit cheap home runs?

[USMA76]

Easy compadre. I’m just messing with you.

My bad, thanks.

[drewdat]

Ump should tell Smith to go get that one out of the ocean

[The Chosen One]

Ozzie the last week and a half has been outrageous.

[IslandBrave]

Ozzie is unreal from the right side.

[chop2chip]

ThE BrAvEs NeEd To GeT SmITh EaRlY If ThEy WaNt To ScOrE

[UNCBlue012]

Acuna is something else

[CyYoung31]

Ozzie the last week and a half has been outrageous.

We’ve never seen both he and Acuna scorching hot at the same time.

Seeing it is making me hot.

[thethe]

I still cant come to grips with the fact we have Acuna/Albies at peanuts in comparison to their production. If ownership doesnt go all in on short te free agents then we should revolt as fans.

2.5 world series over/under bet for the next 8 years for the Braves.

[salmagundy]

with his 3-3 night so far, Ozzie has joined the .300 Avg club.

[AerchAngel]

We’ve never seen both he and Acuna scorching hot at the same time.

Seeing it is making me hot.

Dude, you have issues. I guess you are erect again.

Viagara needs to test your blood.

LMAO!!

[thethe]

We’ve never seen both he and Acuna scorching hot at the same time.

Seeing it is making me hot.

I finished already.

Call me an overachiever

[The Chosen One]

We’ve never seen both he and Acuna scorching hot at the same time.

Seeing it is making me hot.

Will be sad when Swanson comes back and Snitkers breaks them up in the lineup.

[CyYoung31]

Duvy Duvy Du, where are you?

[salmagundy]

I've got the feeling that Smith is going to get tossed at the end of the Top 5th. He's going to mouth off to least 1 Ump.

[USMA76]

Everything that went wrong for us last night is going wrong for the Fish tonight. Nice to see a little karma.

[AerchAngel]

It seems to me every homer Ronnie has the EV is like 105 or higher and 420 feet or longer.

[USMA76]

I've got the feeling that Smith is going to get tossed at the end of the Top 5th. He's going to mouth off to least 1 Ump.

Honestly, not sure that I'd blame him. The balk appeared to be a chicken s--- call.

[CyYoung31]

I still cant come to grips with the fact we have Acuna/Albies at peanuts in comparison to their production. If ownership doesnt go all in on short te free agents then we should revolt as fans.

2.5 world series over/under bet for the next 8 years for the Braves.

They should’ve revolted after they traded Heyward.

[bravesfanMatt]

Honestly, not sure that I'd blame him. The balk appeared to be a chicken s--- call.

Probably but he doesn’t need to be a little bitch.

[salmagundy]

I've got the feeling that Smith is going to get tossed at the end of the Top 5th. He's going to mouth off to least 1 Ump.

Smith is not going to make to the end of inning. He's pulled with 2 outs, runners 2nd/3rd and 6 runs in.

[Heyward]

It seems to me every homer Ronnie has the EV is like 105 or higher and 420 feet or longer.

He doesnt get cheapened on his homers.

[USMA76]

Probably but he doesn’t need to be a little bitch.

Maybe he needs to borrow Folty's wristband?

[AerchAngel]

He doesnt get cheapened on his homers.

He reminds me of Horner in his swing. Short but powerful and especially when the barrel is on the baseball.

[USMA76]

He reminds me of Horner in his swing. Short but powerful and especially when the barrel is on the baseball.

I was stationed overseas for all of Horner's time as a Brave so I didn't get to watch him. My question is did Horner have the effortless opposite field power that Acuña has?

[thethe]

They should’ve revolted after they traded Heyward.

Ruthian!!!

[chop2chip]

Would be nice to see Julio go 8 innings tonight.

[thethe]

I wouldnt say Acuna has a short swing.

[salmagundy]

Julio is pitching a gem tonight. Thru 5 he's at 70 pitches, with 5 Ks, 0 BBs, and 4 hits.

[Snowman]

Probably but he doesn’t need to be a little bitch.


Nah. It was a BS call, he got pissed, he had a right to. Then the little bitch that us that ump got mad and set up closer to him, staring intently, clearly looking for an oppo to call him for another one as punishment. That's trash umping at it's worst.



I'll gladly take the results this time, though.

[UNCBlue012]

Julio is pitching a gem tonight. Thru 5 he's at 70 pitches, with 5 Ks, 0 BBs, and 4 hits. He’s been money for a while

[Snowman]

I wouldnt say Acuna has a short swing.

You're not that supposed Twitter swing expert, are you?

[chop2chip]

Would be nice if Chen doesn’t shut us down for once.

[AerchAngel]

I was stationed overseas for all of Horner's time as a Brave so I didn't get to watch him. My question is did Horner have the effortless opposite field power that Acuña has?

Um kind of, he will hit it out to right center at times. But he was so quick when he swings, Acuna would adjust, but the pitchers then did not throw 95 to 100 constantly. If he did not get hurt, he would have out hit Dale Murphy and hit more homers. He had bone issues in his wrist and arms, if they go, he was toast.

But he was a pleasure to watch. He hit 23 homers in like half or so in the season, as a rookie. He was patient just like Acuna. I think Acuna is looking at his K's and most of them looking, he is not messing around on the first pitch.

Horner was really good, but he had to compete against Mike Schmidt, you will lose that battle. Another not tall like Glaus or Chipper or big person and had much power. Actually if you think about it Horner was like Schmidt in how they approach for hitting.

[thethe]

You're not that supposed Twitter swing expert, are you?

Nah, that dude is clueless. Even still, there is a middle ground between a long and short swing. Acuna is neither of those.

[chop2chip]

Lol ... I guess it’s the C league umpires tonight.

Dreadful across the board.

[AerchAngel]

Acuna k's looking again.

He needs to not look for something and just hit the darn ball.

Schmidt, Murphy or Horner would have did something, make an out but they would not take close pitches.

Murphy was a pull hitter at first, but when he adjusted, most of his home runs were left center to right field, mainly right field.

[Snowman]

Nah, that dude is clueless. Even still, there is a middle ground between a long and short swing. Acuna is neither of those.

I just love the fact that you instantly knew who I meant.

[zbhargrove]

Holy crap... I didn't realize Acuna, Freeman, and Albies were 2nd, 3rd, and 4th respectively in the NL in hits.

[thethe]

Acuna k's looking again.

He needs to not look for something and just hit the darn ball.

Schmidt, Murphy or Horner would have did something, make an out but they would not take close pitches.

Murphy was a pull hitter at first, but when he adjusted, most of his home runs were left center to right field, mainly right field.

How can anyone argue with acunas approach/production. Go take your meds and go to bed AA!!

[AerchAngel]

I said similar to Horner, but did pitchers then threw 95 to 104 mph, all the time? They were hitting against a Teheran back then, not deGrom or Verlander, or even Scherzer, those pitchers would put up John Smoltz numbers and he was one of the hardest throwers then.

Think about it Thethe.

[AerchAngel]

How can anyone argue with acunas approach/production. Go take your meds and go to bed AA!!

I have no issue.

So you can go to bed, Thethe.

[UNCBlue012]

Holy crap... I didn't realize Acuna, Freeman, and Albies were 2nd, 3rd, and 4th respectively in the NL in hits. holy hell. Seriously?

[thethe]

I have no issue.

So you can go to bed, Thethe.

Thanks Pa. Ive got an early tee time anyway.

[AerchAngel]

Holy crap... I didn't realize Acuna, Freeman, and Albies were 2nd, 3rd, and 4th respectively in the NL in hits.

I think they might take the lead. I saw that this morning.

[AerchAngel]

holy hell. Seriously?

It's true, oh it's true. I was shocked as well.

[CyYoung31]

How can anyone argue with acunas approach/production. Go take your meds and go to bed AA!!

His enormous power causes insomnia.

[nsacpi]

Quality start from Julion

[USMA76]

They're talking about Cooper's home runs in the minors at Colorado Springs and acknowledged it's at altitude. No kidding as it's about 800 feet higher than Denver.

[Snowman]

Well,m I had to go look up where that stands now. Ketel Marte, who was in first before play began today, doesn't begin play for another hour or so. So thus includes an extra 2/3rds of a game for our trio.

1. Acuna, 142
2. Marte, 141
3. Albies, 140
4. Freeman, 139

[thethe]

His enormous power causes insomnia.

Enormous you say?

[thethe]

Allard throwing 91-93. Struck out 6 of the first 7 outs

[thethe]

Allard just hit 94

[USMA76]

Rendon just went yard to break the tie and put the Nats up two. Dude is a beast.

[CyYoung31]

Allard throwing 91-93. Struck out 6 of the first 7 outs

Dafuq.

[AerchAngel]

I wouldnt say Acuna has a short swing.

You have to watch Horner, which I think you haven't and how he got the barrel on the ball. This is not disrespect to you and you known me for a long time. I grew from the Hank Aaron era and Acuna is similar to him, Burroughs was great, Murphy great, but Horner is the closes I can say to him. I am not wrong, the oldies who grew up watching them in the 70's knows. Acuna is between Horner and Aaron in how he swings, that is what I am saying and you have to have that not.

Seaver, Ryan and Richard were those who threw in the low to mid 90's at best but they could not compete now but they were pitchers to. They would get lit up today with no problem if they relied on that. Announcers always say, the batters today are geared for the hard stuff. They aren't lying.

I understand what you are coming from but Acuna is adjusting to the heat and doing a great job. He is hitting 420 ft plus homers each time and striking out while being patient. I think he has struck out the second most now or third, he is in the top five. That is what I am saying.

[nsacpi]

We’ve never seen both he and Acuna scorching hot at the same time.

Seeing it is making me hot.

wheres your doppelganger

[Snowman]

Chip: "Look, I'm taking nothing away from today's hitters, but with all die respect, everyone who has played after 1943 sucks and should just commit suicide and burn in hell. No offense, guys, just my opinion."

[thethe]

Allard not throwing a changeup at all but hhs slider (cutter prob) is tight with nice horizontal movement at 87-89

[USMA76]

100 pitches for JT; 68 strikes. Nice ratio.

[bravesfanMatt]

Allard just hit 94

I hope he can succeed. I hate he didn’t get another shot here but understand why he didn’t.

[UNCBlue012]

Great start for Julio

[CyYoung31]

wheres your doppelganger

Who?

[Carp]

You have to watch Horner, which I think you haven't and how he got the barrel on the ball. This is not disrespect to you and you known me for a long time. I grew from the Hank Aaron era and Acuna is similar to him, Burroughs was great, Murphy great, but Horner is the closes I can say to him. I am not wrong, the oldies who grew up watching them in the 70's knows. Acuna is between Horner and Aaron in how he swings, that is what I am saying and you have to have that not.

Seaver, Ryan and Richard were those who threw in the low to mid 90's at best but they could not compete now but they were pitchers to. They would get lit up today with no problem if they relied on that. Announcers always say, the batters today are geared for the hard stuff. They aren't lying.

I understand what you are coming from but Acuna is adjusting to the heat and doing a great job. He is hitting 420 ft plus homers each time and striking out while being patient. I think he has struck out the second most now or third, he is in the top five. That is what I am saying.

Nolan Ryan did not throw mid 90's at best. He held the record for fastest pitch on record until Chapman broke it. Actually, SI says if you adjust for the radar gun placement from then to now, Ryan's 100 MPH fastball in 1974 would be more like 108 MPH now.

Tom Seaver was regularly in the upper 90s as well from what I recall.

[chop2chip]

Allard just hit 94
#TVgun

As always, we should wait for the Statcast data. I still remember a start against Philly two years ago where Julio was sitting 95 on the TV gun.

[Heyward]

Great game by Julio.

Even if Allard is good, i'm not sure where he'd fit in the rotation long-term. But i wish we could have done better with him than a rental RP since he wasnt in the long-term plans.

[USMA76]

Nolan Ryan did not throw mid 90's at best. He held the record for fastest pitch on record until Chapman broke it. And SI Z even say if you adjust for the radar gun placement from then to now, Ryan's 100 MPH fastball in 1974 would be more like 108 MPH now.

I guess that explains all of those speeding tickets I got in the 70s. Of course, a 55 mph speed limit may have had something to do with it too.

[AerchAngel]

Nolan Ryan did not throw mid 90's at best. He held the record for fastest pitch on record until Chapman broke it. Actually, SI says if you adjust for the radar gun placement from then to now, Ryan's 100 MPH fastball in 1974 would be more like 108 MPH now.

I will look that up.

If he threw that hard, he would have a better record.

[thethe]

#TVgun

As always, we should wait for the Statcast data. I still remember a start against Philly two years ago where Julio was sitting 95 on the TV gun.

Very possible but the brewers swings indicate velocity was real.

[chop2chip]

I’m generally against the long term high value free agent contracts (for the Braves at least), but I would make an exception for Rendon.

I would offer 5/150 and I would be surprised if he didn’t get more than that.

[thethe]

I will look that up.

If he threw that hard, he would have a better record.

Command > velocity

[bravesfanMatt]

One Weigel please.

[nsacpi]

Who?

U know

[thethe]

I’m generally against the long term high value free agent contracts (for the Braves at least), but I would make an exception for Rendon.

I would offer 5/150 and I would be surprised if he didn’t get more than that.

Maybe more years at less AAV.

Id just go with Donaldson for a couple more years and let Riley perculate in AAA or in LF at the majors. We was surprisingly average in the field.

[Snowman]

I will look that up.

If he threw that hard, he would have a better record.

Lots of strikeouts, lots of walks, lots of wild pitches. Similar vein to early Johnson, but never made that huge control leap RJ made.

[salmagundy]

Julio with 7 IP and 100 pitches Who is going to throw the 8th and then the 9th?? Snits won't dare send Julio back out there for the 8th, will he??

[Braves1976]

Wow, are you kidding me? Allard hit 95 mph in the first inning tonight and has hit 94 mph a lot so far. He just hit over 94 mph his last inning twice too.

[AerchAngel]

I will look that up.

If he threw that hard, he would have a better record.

Just checked.

No he didn't. If he did, he would not struggle in his pitching to get what he did and would average like 15 to 20 strikeouts each outing.

With the stuff you think would not lose nearly 300 games.

He had great stuff for that era, but if he pitches like he did then now, they would feast off of him.

[CyYoung31]

U know

I wish I could follow you but I don’t.

[Heyward]

I’m generally against the long term high value free agent contracts (for the Braves at least), but I would make an exception for Rendon.

I would offer 5/150 and I would be surprised if he didn’t get more than that.

His agent is Boras, but yeah i'd be surprised if only got around that. Durable, elite fielder, elite hitter, great clubhouse guy. Everything you want in a player. I'd just bring back Donaldson for 2 years if he'd accept but if there's a player worth opening the checkbook for, it's Rendon, he's so good.

[CJ9]

All we need is three more grand slams before Snit will be comfortable letting Weigel pitch.

[Carp]

I will look that up.

If he threw that hard, he would have a better record.

LOL, wut???

[chop2chip]

Chen now has a 3.20 career ERA against the Braves and the majority of that obviously with the Marlins.

[Heyward]

Julio with 7 IP and 100 pitches Who is going to throw the 8th and then the 9th?? Snits won't dare send Julio back out there for the 8th, will he??

Looks like Martin for the 8th, pending a good 8th, i'm not sure who in the 9th. Greene hasnt thrown since Tuesday.

[AerchAngel]

Julion has been great lately.

[AerchAngel]

LOL, wut???

27 years, 320 wins.

[Snowman]

Looks like Martin for the 8th, pending a good 8th, i'm not sure who in the 9th. Greene hasnt thrown since Tuesday.

Snit's hunting for blown saves, so this lead is too big for Greene to come in straight off. Melancon gives up two to create a save situation, Greene gives up three to lose the lead?

[thethe]

Allard cruised through the 4th. Obviously just one start but we may end up regreting trading him.

[Carp]

Just checked.

No he didn't. If he did, he would not struggle in his pitching to get what he did and would average like 15 to 20 strikeouts each outing.

With the stuff you think would not lose nearly 300 games.

He had great stuff for that era, but if he pitches like he did then now, they would feast off of him.

What are you smoking tonight? When adjusted, Nolan Ryan holds the record for fastest pitch at 108 MPH. He regularly was clocked around the 100 MPH throughout his career. Hell, he tore a ligament in his arm before his last pitch and the very next pitch he still threw it 98 MPH.

Your facts are wrong.

[Snowman]

27 years, 320 wins.

Again, nor a lack of velo, a lack of control. The days he had control, he threw those eight (or whatever it was) no-hitters. The other days, 14 strikeouts, 6 walks, and 4 wild pitches, flip a coin on the win/loss.

[thethe]

Martin looks kind of trashy

[chop2chip]

Ronald will never throw to the cutoff man on that throw to third lol.

[CyYoung31]

Martin has been less than impressive so far.

[AerchAngel]

What are you smoking tonight? When adjusted, Nolan Ryan holds the record for fastest pitch at 108 MPH. He regularly was clocked around the 100 MPH throughout his career. Hell, he tore a ligament in his arm before his last pitch and the very next pitch he still threw it 98 MPH.

You're facts are wrong.

I don't smoke or drink and even our board owner knows that.

Why if someone can pitch that hard and lose 292 games, only win barely over 300 games pitching 27 years.

Please, what are you smoking or drinking?

[UNCBlue012]

It’s pretty unreal how bad this bullpen is, even against non-hitters, or the entire marlins team.

[CyYoung31]

Jesus ****ing Christ. Our bullpen may be worse post-deadline than before it.

[USMA76]

Allard cruised through the 4th. Obviously just one start but we may end up regreting trading him.

Sorry and maybe it's true, but I can't help but be skeptical that Allard picked up a steady five mph on his FB since we saw him pitch for us.

[CyYoung31]

I don't smoke or drink and even our board owner knows that.

Why if someone can pitch that hard and lose 292 games, only win barely over 300 games pitching 27 years.

Please, what are you smoking or drinking?

AA, maybe sit the next couple plays out, buddy.

[Enscheff]

Allard cruised through the 4th. Obviously just one start but we may end up regreting trading him.

I already regret losing a Top 20 prospect in all of baseball.

[AerchAngel]

Again, nor a lack of velo, a lack of control. The days he had control, he threw those eight (or whatever it was) no-hitters. The other days, 14 strikeouts, 6 walks, and 4 wild pitches, flip a coin on the win/loss.

This is a good post, but it was so random. Look at his history, only 12 or 13 wins for a pitcher with his talent and took 27 years to get 300 wins.

If Julio Franco was allowed to play in his 60's he would get 3000 hits.

[chop2chip]

Jacob Webb would be nice to have

[Braves1976]

Allard is hitting 94 mph regularly and looks great tonight and even hit 95 mph in the 1st. But the pending free agent Martin we got for him struggles against the Marlins.

[msstate7]

Sorry and maybe it's true, but I can't help but be skeptical that Allard picked up a steady five mph on his FB since we saw him pitch for us.

Well if it's a trick, mlb at bat is playing games with us too

[AerchAngel]

AA, maybe sit the next couple plays out, buddy.

Why? I am just spouting facts, is that against the rules?

I know you don't like me, I am cool with that. But facts are facts and I will display them.

Is Carp your buddy? He needs to look at stats more to be honest.

[USMA76]

Back to the game, I agree with Cy that our bullpen may suck worse now than it did before July 31st.

[CyYoung31]

Lmao. It’s now a save situation for Greene to blow.

[UNCBlue012]

Man, the offense is incredible but pitching has been unbelievably bad.

[chop2chip]

Martin and Green about to get two months of the Luke Jackson treatment.

[Enscheff]

This Nolan Ryan debate involving his velocity and win/loss record is hilarious.

Thanks!

[Heyward]

Cant ever have games where the game is hand all game, always gotta make it interesting.

[nsacpi]

Greene hasn't gone more than 1 inning all year but it's not a bad idea to get him used to going a little longer

[CyYoung31]

Why? I am just spouting facts, is that against the rules?

I know you don't like me, I am cool with that. But facts are facts and I will display them.

Is Carp your buddy? He needs to look at stats more to be honest.

Lmao

[Braves1976]

Back to the game, I agree with Cy that our bullpen may suck worse now than it did before July 31st.

these trades are blowing up in our faces so far

[TheBravos]

It’s just totally mental at this point. They are all over thinking it.

[CyYoung31]

If Greene blows this, he might legitimately just suck.

[thethe]

Holy crap Greene is dog****

[UNCBlue012]

What the hell is happening? The Marlins are a horrible team. Take the damn easy outs and win this. Unreal.

[Braves1976]

are you kidding me?

[USMA76]

Three runs and counting in this inning. JT has to be fuming in the dugout..

[CyYoung31]

It would be so baseball for Brinson to Jack one right here.

[TheBravos]

these trades are blowing up in our faces so far

It’s why you don’t give the farm for relievers. Heck even Diaz has been iffy.

I’m ok with what we have up, but we definitely have talent...it was just talent that likely wouldn’t have gotten a chance here.

[drewdat]

We traded for clowns.

[AerchAngel]

This Nolan Ryan debate involving his velocity and win/loss record is hilarious.

Thanks!

It is.

He should have 400 to 500 wins and not near 300 losses because he was awesome in that era, but would get killed in this one.

108, I am dying laughing. Only the Cards pitcher I know would approach that.

[Snowman]

Snit's hunting for blown saves, so this lead is too big for Greene to come in straight off. Melancon gives up two to create a save situation, Greene gives up three to lose the lead?


Yo, jackasses, I wasn't being serious, stop trying to blow this lead.

[TheBravos]

Allard is hitting 94 mph regularly and looks great tonight and even hit 95 mph in the 1st. But the pending free agent Martin we got for him struggles against the Marlins.

Let them get a book on him and come back to me in about a month. Also, how could he have picked up that velo.

[Carp]

I don't smoke or drink and even our board owner knows that.

Why if someone can pitch that hard and lose 292 games, only win barely over 300 games pitching 27 years.

Please, what are you smoking or drinking?

Because he walked a **** ton of batters and played on some truly awful teams. In 1987 he lead the league in ERA yet went 8-16 on the year.

This isn't hard data to find. And it isn't an opinion either. It is a mathematical fact that Nolan Ryan is one of the fastest pitchers ever. I'm not sure why you trying argue this.

[UNCBlue012]

Good to see a bullpen pitcher make a pitch against a bad hitter

[Braves1976]

Greene gave him one down the middle he fouled...

[Braves1976]

i don't want to see Greene in the 9th!

[Heyward]

The pitch Castro hit wasnt even a bad pitch, but jesus, making this way too interesting than it needs to be.

[USMA76]

Because he walked a **** ton of batters and played on some truly awful teams. In 1987 he lead the league in ERA yet went 8-16 on the year.

This isn't hard data to find. And it isn't an opinion either. It is a mathematical fact that Nolan Ryan is one of the fastest pitchers ever. I'm not sure why you trying argue this.

Not taking sides here but isn't this pretty much the consensus on Ryan's career?

[thethe]

Allard still throwing 93 in the fifth. Struck out first batter and shouldnhave gotten thesecond on weak contact but was safe on a bang bang play

[Snowman]

Not taking sides here but isn't this pretty much the consensus on Ryan's career?

Yes.

[Enscheff]

It is.

He should have 400 to 500 wins and not near 300 losses because he was awesome in that era, but would get killed in this one.

108, I am dying laughing. Only the Cards pitcher I know would approach that.

Dude, you have no clue what you’re talking about

It’s comical.

[CyYoung31]

Please get some more runs. Please.

[Enscheff]

Not taking sides here but isn't this pretty much the consensus on Ryan's career?


Yes, but AA has his own take on facts. They are usually entertaining.

[bravesfanMatt]

Can we have someone we didn’t trade for pitch the 9th?

[Braves1976]

The pitch Castro hit wasnt even a bad pitch, but jesus, making this way too interesting than it needs to be.

Greene also isn't so much a strikeout pitcher so why bring him in with a runner in scoring position? If that keeps him from using him next inning okay but still not wise.

[salmagundy]

Three runs and counting in this inning. JT has to be fuming in the dugout..

The BP blows this game it will be about 5 games they've given back the win for Julio this season.

Are we going to see Jackson in the 9th?? He doesn't like throwing in the 9th but Snit doesn't go with players feelings very often.
Or we see Melancon.

[AerchAngel]

Because he walked a **** ton of batters and played on some truly awful teams. In 1987 he lead the league in ERA yet went 8-16 on the year.

This isn't hard data to find. And it isn't an opinion either. It is a mathematical fact that Nolan Ryan is one of the fastest pitchers ever. I'm not sure why you trying argue this.

Based on who?

If you throw that hard, you learn how to pitch, that simple.

We had plenty of pitchers that KNEW how to pitch and not RELY on strikeouts, why not he?

His fastball would be creamed today by the hitters, it is in that era, I think the gun was off 15 mph.

Why bother with this argument, he struck out a lot and walked a lot won a lot and lost a lot. That is who he is. I loved him as a pitcher but there is no way he would last today at all.

and 108 mph, right? 105 we see with real radar guns.

[drewdat]

Call me when Allard is throwing 103 like Newcomb

[Braves1976]

no more Greene seems like a victory, esp. if we add on here.

[Snowman]

The BP blows this game it will be about 5 games they've given back the win for Julio this season.

Are we going to see Jackson in the 9th?? He doesn't like throwing in the 9th but Snit doesn't go with players feelings very often.
Or we see Melancon.

I don't know how they're going to clear it with the commish's office and the roster, but I'm calling the Francoeur save.

[AerchAngel]

Yes, but AA has his own take on facts. They are usually entertaining.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/ryanno01.shtml

Am I wrong? And if so, please tell me?

[Carp]

Why? I am just spouting facts, is that against the rules?

I know you don't like me, I am cool with that. But facts are facts and I will display them.

Is Carp your buddy? He needs to look at stats more to be honest.

You don't have any facts. I on the other hand have presented numerous actual facts which you seem to ignore. Ryan was regularly clocked at 100 mph. It's as much a fact as the sky is blue.

[Heyward]

The BP blows this game it will be about 5 games they've given back the win for Julio this season.

Are we going to see Jackson in the 9th?? He doesn't like throwing in the 9th but Snit doesn't go with players feelings very often.
Or we see Melancon.

It sounds like Melancon, he was warming up supposedly.

[AerchAngel]

You don't have any facts. I on the other hand have presented numerous actual facts which you seem to ignore. Ryan was regularly clocked at 100 mph. It's as much a fact as the sky is blue.

From who?

Here are my facts.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/ryanno01.shtml

[chop2chip]

Based on the off-season, Kimbrel, and now Green/Martin, I guess we learned that good relievers simply can’t be acquired.

[thethe]

Damn, allard just walked 2 to load the bases. Hopefully, he get a long look now.

[thethe]

Based on the off-season, Kimbrel, and now Green/Martin, I guess we learned that good relievers simply can’t be acquired.

*cough* Wilson *cough*

[The Chosen One]

Lol Ron.

[CyYoung31]

Acuna is a human cheat code.

[Snowman]

Holy ****, have a day, Ronald.

[thethe]

Holy crap. What a monster

[salmagundy]

Ronnie puts up another HR and adds 2 more insurance runs.

[Heyward]

Acuna is ok.

[AerchAngel]

You don't have any facts. I on the other hand have presented numerous actual facts which you seem to ignore. Ryan was regularly clocked at 100 mph. It's as much a fact as the sky is blue.

To go further, what kind of guns were they using? If he threw that hard, we would not see those win and losses?


108

LMAO

[nsacpi]

expecting a yuge game from Acuña

yas

[thethe]

yas

Stop...thats like betting on amazon.

[bravesfanMatt]

Weigel please.

[USMA76]

I seem to recall saying something earlier about Acuña's "effortless opposite field power."

Yeah, I know, thank you Captain Obvious.

[Snowman]

Stop...thats like betting on amazon.


Acuna, Amazon, the Yankees, and US Steel.

[CyYoung31]

yas

Go off my King.

[The Chosen One]

Ozzie is scary on both sides right now.

[CrimsonCowboy]

Acuña and Ozzie are awesome

[thethe]

So John Hart was NOT right about Albies.

[AerchAngel]

Albies is really hot.

Cy don't get erect, I will be afraid of the women and men in your neighborhood.

[CyYoung31]

3 straight 4 hit games. When was the last time that happened?

[nsacpi]

Stop...thats like betting on amazon.

Did you see what happened last night

[Heyward]

Ozzie and Ronald locked in at the same time is pretty fun.

Still cant believe the highest we'll pay Ozzie during his contract is 7 million US dollars.

[CyYoung31]

Ozzie is scary on both sides right now.

Best switch-hitter in Braves history.

Can’t even think of a close second.

[thethe]

Did you see what happened last night

You do call 'yuge' games

[Pacheaholic]

3 straight 4 hit games. When was the last time that happened?

Ozzie had 1 hit yesterday.

[Snowman]

Ozzie and Ronald locked in at the same time is pretty fun.

Still cant believe the highest we'll pay Ozzie during his contract is 7 million US dollars.

His agent really is guilty of child neglect.

[jpack1]

So yeah. Acuna and Albies are pretty good at baseball. Who knew?

[AerchAngel]

Best switch-hitter in Braves history.

Can’t even think of a close second.

You serious? If you are, mod powers should be stripped.

[Enscheff]

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/ryanno01.shtml

Am I wrong? And if so, please tell me?

To be honest I lost track of the point you were trying to make in the middle of your incoherent rambling lol.

Fact: Nolan Ryan threw hard, routinely hitting 100.
Fact: Wins and losses are beyond useless when evaluating a pitcher.
Fact: Ryan was striking out 10 per 9 back when MLB average was like 5, so he was clearly dominant.
Fact: Obviously 100 mph now wouldn’t be as effective as it was back then.
Fact: you have an odd fascination with Bob Horner.

[thethe]

His agent really is guilty of child neglect.

Theyll do something for him in 4 years i think. Its just not fair at all.

[The Chosen One]

His agent really is guilty of child neglect.

People need to stop looking at it like that.

Acuna and Ozzie are BFFs. They're basically sharing their contracts under one household.

[thethe]

You serious? If you are, mod powers should be stripped.

For real...furcal was awesome for a few years.

[CyYoung31]

Ozzie had 1 hit yesterday.

I didn’t watch yesterday. But I could’ve swore Chip said he had 3 straight 4 hit games.

I guess that’s why I shouldn’t listen to Chip.

[USMA76]

Albies is really hot.

Cy don't get erect, I will be afraid of the women and men in your neighborhood.

The farm animals in the barn are really sweating it. [Sorry, Cy, couldn't resist.]

[thethe]

People need to stop looking at it like that.

Acuna and Ozzie are BFFs. They're basically sharing their contracts under one household.

And they cant even blame that on Coppy

[Braves1976]

That strike two to Duvall was well outside!

ump screwed Duvall, he only saw two strikes that ab.

[nsacpi]

Fact: you have an odd fascination with Bob Horner.
Horner did have pretty amazing hair toward the end of his career.

[CyYoung31]

For real...furcal was awesome for a few years.

Oops. Forgot about him.

[CyYoung31]

The farm animals in the barn are really sweating it. [Sorry, Cy, couldn't resist.]

You’re lucky I respect the troops.

[UNCBlue012]

So hard rfn

[chop2chip]

That strike two to Duvall was well outside!

ump screwed Duvall, he only saw two strikes that ab.
That ump has missed that pitch all last night and the up in to right ganders. He’s been horrendous.

[Hudson2]

Acuna is unbelievable. Albies has been amazing in the 2 hole.