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jpx7
12-10-2013, 04:13 PM
Massive multinational corporations don't just want the status and liberties of individual personhood conferred upon them, but also the authorities and vestiges of governments as well. From Charles Pierce (http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/trans-pacific-partnership-documents-released-120913):


WikiLeaks (http://wikileaks.org/Second-release-of-secret-Trans.html?update) and The Huffington Post have raised all kinds of unshirted hell (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/08/tpp-trade-agreement_n_4409211.html?icid=maing-grid7|main5|dl1|sec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D416353) this morning by publishing a trove of documents relating to the Trans-Pacific Partnership, the gigantic new trade agreement which was negotiated largely in secret -- unless, of course, you were a CEO or a lobbyist who worked for one -- and which the administration is seeking to "fast-track" through Congress so as to avoid the kind of public scrutiny to which deals like this rarely stand up. OK, that last part's me, but you get the point.


One of the most controversial provisions in the talks includes new corporate empowerment language insisted upon by the U.S. government, which would allow foreign companies to challenge laws or regulations in a privately run international court. Under World Trade Organization treaties, this political power to contest government law is reserved for sovereign nations. The U.S. has endorsed some corporate political powers in prior trade agreements, including the North American Free Trade Agreement, but the scope of what laws can be challenged appears to be much broader in TPP negotiations.

The documents say pretty much what you'd expect them to say -- that the provisions of the TPP grant multinational corporations vast new powers and that, among these, are virtual veto-powers over local environmental and labor laws, and that the agreement is a virtual Christmas tree on which corporations have hung all of their fondest individual wishes regarding future profiteering. (The drug companies seem particularly (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/13/wikileaks-global-health_n_4269337.html) hopeful, which is to say incredibly greedy.) Large financial institutions seem happy, too.

But let's use our time and breath decrying the workers at the lowest-rung wanting a bit more compensation for their menial efforts, instead.

weso1
12-10-2013, 04:21 PM
I actually agree with you that the mimimum wage debate is pretty pointless. I'd be fine with just letting it increase with inflation and moving on. I really don't think it will help those in poverty that much and I don't think it will hurt the economy enough to make a big difference. But I think you and I both know that the libs and their guilt won't let it end there. The slippery slope will be quite slippery. Gotta keep that voter base after all.

The debate that you want to have is pointless as well though, but for a different reason. Nobody can stop the power of corporations and government now. Both are just too gigantic and powerful.

Julio3000
12-10-2013, 04:29 PM
Why bother with trivialities when there is TRUE injustice in the world?

Hark, is that the sound of a no-good layabout getting a crust of bread more than The Market (tm) has determined that he's entitled to?

jpx7
12-10-2013, 05:27 PM
The debate that you want to have is pointless as well though, but for a different reason. Nobody can stop the power of corporations and government now. Both are just too gigantic and powerful.

What's your solution, then? To just bite the bit and shoulder the yoke?

weso1
12-10-2013, 06:05 PM
What's your solution, then? To just bite the bit and shoulder the yoke?

I believe we're heading toward a socialist Utopia, so we don't need a solution.