Chacin About to be Traded to Angels

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05-11-2016, 02:05 PM
smootness

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Originally Posted by CJ9

Bowman says the return is a minor league pitcher that is not considered a prospect.

It's the Angels, so that goes without saying.
05-11-2016, 02:19 PM
yeezus

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Originally Posted by jpx7

Then why bother reading or posting in the thread?

You spend a lot of time whining about the perceived "whiners"—not just in this thread, but generally—so why even torture yourself by clicking on any thread where you think there might be a smidge of dissent with what the front office has done?

the same reason the constant whiners click in threads and post.

and it's not all whining, so there's always valuable stuff.

and i also spend much more time talking about baseball; most of the whiners whine almost exclusively.
05-11-2016, 02:21 PM
The Chosen One

Who the hell is whining about Chacin getting traded? I'll ban them right now for a week.
05-11-2016, 02:21 PM
yeezus

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Originally Posted by jpx7

Though, to be fair, Chacin is more like a scuffed-up Seiko with some gum stuck to it that you're still trying to clean off. The point remains valid—why give it up for a dime when you might be able to get seventy-five cents next Thursday—but I also have to think the Braves were unlikely to get that much more than they just did.

Seiko? Chacin is a Timex that's stopped working quite a few times and was found on top of a trash can after yet another person gave up on it.
05-11-2016, 02:37 PM
bravesfanMatt

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Originally Posted by The Don

Who the hell is whining about Chacin getting traded? I'll ban them right now for a week.

Why the hell did they trade Chacin?!? Damnit. I had him resigning to a 5 year deal and being the veteran presence this club needs after we dump that scrub JT.. I hate the Braves sometimes..
05-11-2016, 02:43 PM
Russ2dollas

Didn't we draft a hundred college pitchers in the middle rounds? Can't one of those guys be a good lh rp?

23 and not in a ball

I don't see the point. Unless you just want to clear a spot so you can give Jenkins a shot.
05-11-2016, 02:45 PM
yeezus

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Originally Posted by Russ2dollas

Unless you just want to clear a spot so you can give Jenkins a shot.

i think this is also a factor.
05-11-2016, 02:46 PM
The Chosen One

Kid will probably be a loogy at some point.
05-11-2016, 02:51 PM
bravesfanMatt

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Originally Posted by yeezus

i think this is also a factor.

ding ding ding... we have a winner.. have to start culling the heard guys..
05-11-2016, 03:02 PM
striker42

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Originally Posted by Russ2dollas

Didn't we draft a hundred college pitchers in the middle rounds? Can't one of those guys be a good lh rp?

23 and not in a ball

I don't see the point. Unless you just want to clear a spot so you can give Jenkins a shot.

Relievers are so unpredictable that the best you can usually do is just amass a bunch of live arms and hope some turn out. So it's possible some of the pitchers we drafted could turn into lefty relievers. However it doesn't hurt at all to add more.
05-11-2016, 03:13 PM
Braves1976

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Originally Posted by dak

Not a fan of this trade. From ST through now, Chacin has had maybe 2 bad starts? Not sure why we were so anxious to trade him for a lottery ticket.

I hate it, not so much because I like Chacin so much, just another sign to me that I cannot trust this FO to know what they're doing.
05-11-2016, 03:15 PM
UNCBlue012

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Originally Posted by Braves1976

I hate it, not so much because I like Chacin so much, just another sign to me that I cannot trust this FO to know what they're doing.

Like the trade or not, someone in the FO obviously was not high on Chacin. I think we could of gotten more, but I'm not against trading him. More depth is never bad.
05-11-2016, 03:15 PM
clvclv

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Originally Posted by Enscheff

First thing first, Perez is never going to be more than a AAAA starter or long relief guy at the MLB level. There is no reason to give him a chance to prove anything.

The only reason I think it's a bad trade is because players like Chacin could be packaged with players like Aybar and KJ to a contender for a prospect that is at least decent. Kinda like how KJ and Uribe were packaged together to get Gant...you know, an actual prospect.

Maybe this tall lefty turns into a decent LOOGY, who knows. Maybe Coppy is having visions about Grilli's trade value vanishing so didn't want to wait with Chacin, who knows. Maybe they've just had a hard-on for this kid for years and wanted to snatch him up.

Ah yes - that highly rated prospect that was John Gant. One of those guys that so many here screamed was such a terrible return when he was dealt for last season. The same John Gant who didn't even draw a mention as a "Grade C" prospect from Sickels before last season and was nowhere to be found on Mets' prospect lists anywhere.

http://www.minorleagueball.com/2014/...pects-for-2015

http://www.amazinavenue.com/2015/2/1...rrera-new-york

http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseba...ects-1.9516440
05-11-2016, 03:20 PM
Braves1976

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Originally Posted by UNCBlue012

Like the trade or not, someone in the FO obviously was not high on Chacin. I think we could of gotten more, but I'm not against trading him. More depth is never bad.

I know, that was made clear in ST and that is part of what bothers me. They seem to have more in the FO that love hard throwers but underrate some real pitchers. That is going to backfire I'm afraid.

Also, lefty relievers like this kid can be had all the time for little to nothing. I've seen just as good or better on the waiver wire in fact.
05-11-2016, 03:33 PM
Enscheff

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Originally Posted by clvclv

Ah yes - that highly rated prospect that was John Gant. One of those guys that so many here screamed was such a terrible return when he was dealt for last season. The same John Gant who didn't even draw a mention as a "Grade C" prospect from Sickels before last season and was nowhere to be found on Mets' prospect lists anywhere.

http://www.minorleagueball.com/2014/...pects-for-2015

http://www.amazinavenue.com/2015/2/1...rrera-new-york

http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseba...ects-1.9516440

The guy the Braves just got is 23 and in rookie ball. Do you know where Gant was when he was 23? Oh wait, that's this year, when he's in Atlanta having already thrown 7 innings at the MLB level after putting up 24 innings of sub-3.00 ERA at AAA.

You say a lot of really stupid things, but comparing Gant and this new guy as if Gant was anywhere near the same level of non-prospect tops the list.

I swear the posters on this site used to more knowledgeable, right?
05-11-2016, 03:34 PM
nsacpi

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Originally Posted by Enscheff

I swear the posters on this site used to more knowledgeable, right?

The team's poor play has pushed us all into a slump.
05-11-2016, 03:36 PM
Braves1976

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Originally Posted by Enscheff

The guy the Braves just got is 23 and in rookie ball. Do you know where Gant was when he was 23? Oh wait, that's this year, when he's in Atlanta having already thrown 7 innings at the MLB level after putting up 24 innings of sub-3.00 ERA at AAA.

You say a lot of really stupid things, but comparing Gant and this new guy as if Gant was anywhere near the same level of non-prospect tops the list.

I swear the posters on this site used to more knowledgeable, right?

It's like being stuck in the movie Dumb and Dumber eh? :)
05-11-2016, 03:37 PM
50PoundHead

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Originally Posted by Enscheff

The guy the Braves just got is 23 and in rookie ball. Do you know where Gant was when he was 23? Oh wait, that's this year, when he's in Atlanta having already thrown 7 innings at the MLB level after putting up 24 innings of sub-3.00 ERA at AAA.

You say a lot of really stupid things, but comparing Gant and this new guy as if Gant was anywhere near the same level of non-prospect tops the list.

I swear the posters on this site used to more knowledgeable, right?

I don't know if this kid is any good or not, but he was tabbed as a likely 2nd round pick out of high school before he had arm surgery. He's since recovered and bounced around a bit. So that's how he got to be 23. I'm not much on the return, but you don't find LHPs who throw 95 that often and it's obvious the Braves are taking a chance that he might develop. It is an odd deal.
05-11-2016, 03:39 PM
Julio3000

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Originally Posted by nsacpi

The team's poor play has pushed us all into a slump.

I blame the manager/site admin.
05-11-2016, 03:40 PM
nsacpi

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Originally Posted by Julio3000

I blame the manager/site admin.

I wouldn't say he makes us bad. But he definitely doesn't make us better.

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