LHP: 077/077/077 - 154 OPS
RHP: 230/269/432 - 702 OPS
Not looking good
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LHP: 077/077/077 - 154 OPS
RHP: 230/269/432 - 702 OPS
Not looking good
It hasn't been looking good for a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by thewupk
career numbers:
.267/.307/.319 against lefties
.294/.341/.408 against righties
that's who he is as a hitter
update on 2017 numbers
versus lefties: .346/.368/.442
versus righties: .299/.352/.402
Not bad, but half a season or even a full season can produce misleading results as far as splits go. I think his career numbers provide the most reliable indicator of what his splits are likely to be like going forward.
What if he's just simply gotten better at hitting lefties? It happens plenty.Quote:
Originally Posted by nsacpi
Holy SSS, batman.Quote:
Originally Posted by thewupk
Is his 50 PAs against LHers this year not SSS as well?Quote:
Originally Posted by Super
How can you criticize a SSS when someone claims he is bad when your evidence he is good is also a SSS?
It sure does happen. And I think it has happened to some extent with Ender. Last year he had slightly negative splits. So last year and this year, his splits have been much different from his Arizona seasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Super
So was the 138 ABs against lefties last year when he hit .319 with a .749 OPS SSS as well?Quote:
Originally Posted by Enscheff
The problem here, which was mentioned last year when you and others accused him of being a platoon player, is that you are ignoring his minor league numbers and numbers from 2016 and 2017 in favor of SSS numbers from 2015 to determine he struggles with lefties. He had normal slugging % drops against lefties (most lefties don't hit for as much power against lefties), but he overall had very solid batting avg against lefties in the minors (at least half or over half of his minor league seasons he hit higher against lefties than righties). It's really only in 2015 that he struggled against lefties, in 141 ABs.
Platoon splits show a lot of volatility from year to year, in part due to the sample size against lefties being small. As a rough rule I like to see 400 plate appearances before saying much about a hitter. And hitters (even the ones playing full time) need about 3 seasons to accumulate that many plate appearances against lefty pitchers. Ender's career splits data are probably the most reliable predictor of what his splits will look like going forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by auyushu
Haha wtf, I didn't say he's necessarily good at hitting lefties. The post I responded to was posted on April 28th. Less than a month into the season. 52 ABs is more than however many the initial post declaring him a platoon player was. I don't understand the apparent need to call him a platoon player just yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Enscheff
For his career at the moment he has a slash line of .281/.320/.340 against lefties, and that's weighed down by one season where he was terrible and is not in line with his other 3 seasons at all. I think it's vastly premature to say his overall splits are a reliable predictor when one single season is heavily distorting his numbers in a negative direction. It may wind up being the case, but his sample size is way too small to get any reliable predictive data.Quote:
Originally Posted by nsacpi
It will be interesting when Albies is established at the MLB level. He has pretty well established platoon splits that would suggest flip-flopping Ender/Albies in the 1 and 8 spots in the lineup might be the best course of action. Or maybe the 1 and 9 spots with Freeman batting 2nd.
Why would we throw out one season. I don't think we should even throw out an exceptionally good or bad game as an outlier, let alone an entire season.Quote:
Originally Posted by auyushu
Ender's been taking some good ab's all around. I'm very pleased with his consistency.
Don't you have some more internet stalking of board members to do? Would you like me to save you some time and just give you a link to me FB profile?Quote:
Originally Posted by Super
When did I say you should throw it out? I'm just saying it's an outlier season in terms of a guy who has limited data against left handers, and that makes it impossible to get anything close to reliable predictive data. I mean, you are in here trying say his current splits are who he will be going forward, and his current splits have gone from .267 BA to over .280 BA versus lefties in just a couple months, there is nothing reliable there.Quote:
Originally Posted by nsacpi
It's the pessimists board bro. You don't belong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Super
I'm saying his career splits are a better predictor for what he will do going forward than his current season splits.Quote:
Originally Posted by auyushu
Well, yeah.Quote:
Originally Posted by nsacpi
It is so dark and cold in here. I am going to wait outside if that is ok..
I think we should just remove every player's worst season when projecting their future production. It will lead to a much happier world of baseball.Quote:
Originally Posted by nsacpi
that's why posi Braves are always so jollyQuote:
Originally Posted by Enscheff
Well this changed quickly. In much fewer AB's Ender has performed better against lefties this year.
Ender is now the man.Quote:
Originally Posted by thethe