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Cannot believe someone who admitted to be going through heroin withdraw was just left to be.
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Cannot believe someone who admitted to be going through heroin withdraw was just left to be.
Sad that someone died but it was his choice to commit crimes and get addicted to Heroin.
If he was that worried about detoxing in jail he could had gotten off the stuff before he was arrested.
He couldn't keep down medicine (which I presume was methadone or whatever they are using nowadays) ... that's a fairly serious sign of a major underlying issue.
Despicable.
We've got to hold these systems of government to a higher standard of accountability (and efficacy). Not mindlessly add more layers.
This post is so dumb.Quote:
Originally Posted by Krgrecw
Yup. That's the scary part IMO. THere were all these signs and medical practitioners ignored it. SHows (IMO) a callousness in the prison system.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawk
Well he did CHOOSE that lifestyle and paid the price so why should I feel sorry for him?Quote:
Originally Posted by zitothebrave
Do we have to handhold everyone in this world, or let government tell you what to do, how to feel, what to think?
Some prolifer you are. And these people CHOSE not to take proper care of a prisoner who're they're responsible.Quote:
Originally Posted by AerchAngel
Nobody chooses that special kind of hell.Quote:
Originally Posted by AerchAngel
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Originally Posted by AerchAngel
Dude had MULTIPLE warrants for his arrest. I'm sure he was a nice guy ;)
Now if he didn't commit the crime, try the stuff in the first place it wouldn't happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by zitothebrave
For what?Quote:
Originally Posted by Krgrecw
If they took proper care of him, or you know, do their job. Then who cares.Quote:
Originally Posted by AerchAngel
Trying to find out. I imagine It wasn't parking tickets or anything small because they wouldn't go after him for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawk
Not after initial of course but I am sorry when someone take drugs and keeps taking them, they made that choice. Are we suppose to hold their hands and sing Kumbayah and please don't commit crimes and get hooked up with that schit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawk
I have many drug users in may family, three died from them, one gang related death. Do you think we had a pity party? Hell no, we preached and preached they tell us to eff off I can do what the eff I want. Our hands are washed. My dad would not even help me after he ask for me to make the right choices when I did something bad early in life that cause some issues. In the hood we called that tough love. You reap what you sow mentality.
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Originally Posted by AerchAngel
Sad that the dude died in jail but it was his choice to commit crimes, his choice to do drugs. If he was that worried about detoxing In jail, he could had made another choice and quit doing drugs. Personal responsibility.
I find it shady that they dont mention what the outstanding warrants are for. If its some **** like unpaid traffic tickets then he is no way a criminal.
Do you know what detoxing means? It means he wasn't using the drugs and hadn't for some time. Enough that he could admit to not having used them and it being a concern.Quote:
Originally Posted by Krgrecw
Where's the personal responsibility for people to do their job? I hear personal responsibility all the time, but why didn't the medical practitioner recognize this person needed care and got him the care he needed? Instead of doing their job they hid behind doing the minimum because they were dealing with a prisoner, not a person. To me that's what's sickening about our criminal "justice" system.
Attitudes like yours just makes me sad.
I was finally able to find a more local sourceQuote:
Originally Posted by cajunrevenge
http://kdvr.com/2015/10/19/parents-p...s-county-jail/
"Tabor was booked on one warrant for not complying with his probation on a harassment conviction and failing to appear on charges of speeding and driving under restraint"
Such a dangerous person.
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Originally Posted by zitothebrave
Before you go on a tirade about something you're unfamiliar with, the dude admitted to using heroin the day before. And if he hadn't use drugs in a while, like you say, he wouldn't be in detox, they'd be out of his system. He wouldnt of died unless he was addicted to drugs as he went to jail.
He wouldn't have died if they took his concern seriously and got him to the hospital when he was struggling with medication. That's not a good sign. Why are the people responsible for caring for him absolved? If someone had a heart attack in jail and there was no response for 3 hours you'd be blaming him on his diet? Not slow response?Quote:
Originally Posted by Krgrecw
Still a criminal at the end of the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by zitothebrave
So he deserves to die? Is that your attitude? If that's the case we should just kill everyone off as no one follows every law.Quote:
Originally Posted by NinersSBChamps
They made the CHOICE to be there.Quote:
Originally Posted by zitothebrave
I think you have a fundamental problem about people making bad choices and expecting us to say "it's okay, it's just a boo boo, we or the government will take care of your idiotic mistake"
I might be an asshole, but I choose to not do crime (I committed one and I was thrown out of the house as a teenager and not permitted to come back until I got my schit together, all brains, top 5 in class, and no common sense) and choose not to do drugs and I don't even drink and drive, because you know why, I am smart enough to make wise decision which our maker gave us. Why should I give a flying f*ck when you are stupid ass? I was able to get my stuff together and end up as an Air Traffic Controller and I got my FAA certificate to prove it and then went on to be a top programmer. Because I made a choice in life to not do stupid schit.
Just like an idiot was drunk and decided to walk down the train tracks and play chicken with a train. I bet you would say, well he was disturbed or had family issues. Who is the stupid f*ck to even think of doing that?
People are smart enough to make the right choice in life, if you are too f*cking stupid to decide to do drugs, drink and drive or commit a crime, whatever happens to you is YOUR fault.
So we should have pity or pay for your actions, PERIOD? Stupid, very stupid. Government want to control people for all the wrong reasons.
And those people made a CHOICE working at a prison. They could have worked anywhere else but they CHOSE to work at the prison and didn't take care of someone. That's the issue. **** everything else involved with this. You have some convoluted mental block of accepting that prisoners are people too.
The rest of your above post is just classic ranting. No relevant points were made.
I think you need to recognize that guards are people to. Isn't it possible that they see similar behavior all the time yet nothing tragic happens? Are we really so naive to think that we have the best and brightest working as jail guards?
That's not what I said and you know that. Just simply saying a criminal is a criminal.Quote:
Originally Posted by zitothebrave
This poor guy dies in jail in intense agony while Lamar Odom gets the best medical attention money can buy and is treated like a hero.
Last I checked, Odom did not a commit a crime.Quote:
Originally Posted by Runnin
Well if you say marrying a Kardashian, or if you didn't turn to stone when you see Caitlyn Jenner is a crime, I agree.
Put it this way: they treated him and then he do the same thing. They treated him and he does the same thing again and again.Quote:
Originally Posted by zitothebrave
I have to pay for it. Why do I have to keep paying for it. Let the liberals pay for it, but you know what, they don't want to, never have, never will, they want the RICH to pay for it. They do all the crimes all the crap we have in our country but yet want the RICH to take care of it. Why can't an individual be responsible for their own actions and yet the RICH have to take care of it.
Why don't you volunteer at a jail or prison facility and teach these men to be responsible.
What you mean is he wasn't charged with a crime. Reports were he was mixing cocaine and large does of herbal viagra, whatever that is.Quote:
Originally Posted by AerchAngel
I think Odom and the dude that died in jail should be getting the same level of care.
ummmm. no. Unless you want to volunteer and pay for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Runnin
Do you not think Odom will get a substantial bill and pay for it?
Why should I or anyone else pay for a criminal. The criminal did CRIMES AGAINST OTHER PEOPLE.
The people that were hurt, do you think they like paying for his care? Do you think they would, well have issues I forgive you? No one care for my cousin getting gunned down in a drug transaction. No one cared for my aunt who had a crack overdose. No one cared that my uncle died from a heroin overdose. Because he died jail this is a story. They chose that life, we tried to help but blacks are not as forgiving as whites when you make stupid mistakes because as my dad said, you make the choice you suffer the consequences, be it jail or six feet under. He is a hardcore Democrat and he thinks like that. He has no pity for those in jail or on drugs, none, whatsoever. It is their choice he says and you should only ask to help and if they don't want it, grow thick skin to ignore it. Many times in our big family we tried to help and if they tell you to eff off, you eff off and when they die, they get a pine box and buried.
Best advice a dad can give. You make choices in life, good or bad, it is on YOU. He threw me out because I made a bad choice, it made me a better person in the end and understand the TOUGH LOVE of parenting.
8 dollars to my name and on the street and he told the family that no one to take me in. I need to learn a lesson about life and decisions.