Lots of noise about an impending indictment for the Orange One. I am impressed he made it this long. Only question now is who gets indicted first. Matt Gaetz or Trump?
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Lots of noise about an impending indictment for the Orange One. I am impressed he made it this long. Only question now is who gets indicted first. Matt Gaetz or Trump?
Brazen, rich, entitled asshole criminals are still walking around free when a black or brown person fears for his life just walking down the street.
I'd give Trump, Gaetz, Manafort, Flynn, Stone, Louis DeJoy and all the other Trump swamp creatures three choices: Russia, Guantanamo or a firing squad. They don't deserve anything else.
That giant sucking sound you hear are people leaving the GOP. It's a thing of beauty.
I’m not sure you have any point of reference for any of those remarks.
The obsession is truly pathetic
Seems reasonable to be talking about a former president that might get indicted, no?
Though I appreciate that Biden largely ignores him. Three years into his term, Trump was mentioning Obama by name an average of 3x per day. Talk about pathetic.
Cool. Let’s see what happens
If Trump's indicted, expect a rush of Republican DA's across the country to try to come up with any excuse to indict Biden the second he leaves office. I'm not saying Trump doesn't deserve to be indicted. I'm reserving my judgment on that until I have more information. I'm just saying that it's going to set the precedent.
Ultimately it's fine if they want to play that game. I imagine those lawsuits would look a lot like the election lawsuits- lawyers know that if they lie to a judge or file frivolous suits without evidence, they'll lose their license. That's why you see people like Sydney Powell having to argue that 'no reasonable person' would believe her claims and other election attorneys confessing to judges that they 'aren't actually alleging fraud'.
On the flip side, if a DA (regardless of political affiliation) comes up with solid evidence that Biden committed a crime and should be indicted, we should all want that to happen.
Yeah, I'm with you about waiting to see all the evidence but if there is any I'll bet bet things play out a lot differently this time than in the impeachments. This time Trump won't have his own pit bull AG to clean up/redact any actual evidence or block witness testimony or put out their version of what really happened until the DUMAS American people use their MTV attention spans to decide on guilty/innocent.
Trump was a disgrace in my opinion, but William Barr was Trump x 1000. Oh and by the way trumpeters, you can have Joe and Hunter too. I have no use for any of them.
I want to see political de-escalation. I'd like to see the parties start moving back towards the center and away from their extremes. I'd gladly let Trump go to do that. I just fear that indicting him, even if 100% valid, will be viewed by many as being politically motivated. This includes a large number of DA's who could see indicting Biden as being a key to their political futures. So there's significant risk of creating a host of political problems here.
So my message is to tread lightly and don't indict unless you have overwhelming evidence. Prosecutors have discretion for a reason.
Agreed that there should only be an indictment if the evidence is clear. But if people (hypothetically) view someone being indicted and convicted as politically motivated, that is a problem with their demagoguery, not with the decision to indict.
I would love it for you to be right, but there's just too much money and power to be extremist assholes. Republicans talk all the time about Dems being divisive and I don't disagree but there's no way anybody is more divisive than what the Repubs have been since the inauguration.
Oh, I agree with you, but when was the last time you saw any politician ONLY interested in valid evidence? Trump actually admitted to at least half of the stuff the Dems impeached him for and his followers still defended him and denied everything carte blanche.
I for one would love to see Biden indicted but it isnt going to happen. Theres rules about thus stuff. Not for me or you but for the elite class and rich there is a thing called malicious prosecution.
One possibility is DeSantis blocks extradition and Trump essentially becomes a fugitive only able to travel to states with governors who dont have spines. If Trump runs in 2024 with that indictment he cant campaign. Assuming DeSantis would be VP we would have a situation where he would have to go he the main campaigner. I would have a shred of respect for DeSantis if he string armed Trump into being his VP or he will stop blocking the extradition.
It's very, very difficult to hold a prosecutor liable for some kind of malicious prosecution tort. Go look at the Rick Perry case. He was indicted for threatening to veto funds if a district attorney that got a DUI didn't resign. The case was absolutely outrageous. It violated both the Texas and the US Constitutions. But the bar is so low for prosecutors that there's not really much you can do about it.
You'd think with all the republican DAs and lawyers at least one of them would be able to articulate one law Hunter Biden has broken.
If he and Joe have broken laws, I say let's charge them. In the meantime I'm waiting for someone to tell me what those crimes are.
Time to disappear for a while.
https://scontent-itm1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...0c&oe=60C95585
Walls are closing in, again
He's been smart with his Trump money and is worth millions. Billions, I meant to write. Houses and property all over the place.
He looks exactly like you'd expect a dirty accountant to look. Yeah, with no evidence or real knowledge of him I think he's probably as culpable as his boss in whatever is coming down the pike. But the system will protect them both the way it has until now. The negative press and publicity will be the worst part of it.
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Even if he and Trump have to go to prison for tax fraud, they both still come out way ahead. It sometimes pays to be a crook.
This is happening because what’s being revealed in Maricopa county is damning. Have to switch the narrative off of their illegitimate administrative.
this has been happening for decades.
Only in the open now cuz he went all John Gotti
Let’s set a real countdown watch for this ? Someone with fancy internet skills get on this.
Or else we can do like a Super Bowl squares thingy
Walls are closed, this time
Maggie Haberman reporting Trump is preparing to be indicted
Whoa.
Big, and I mean BIG if true!!
Those walls just cannot close any further
I think about 85% of Americans are going to be thrilled when these indictments come out. Most of the GOP will be holding private celebrations.
The full weight of investigative power for the past 5 years and they’ve got fringe benefit accounting issues. Lol
I mean holy crap.
Fringe benefit accounting issues is the big bombshell? The OMB crowd just gets more and more pathetic.
We don't know the totality what they are going to be charged with yet, but I'd be willing to bet it's a lot more than an accounting issue. How about a systematic, decades long fraud carried out on the government, financial institutions and their clients? That's what I'm hoping for.
How many people in Orange One's orbit have been convicted since he was elected? We want to keep the number in single digits if possible.
So now that you are thoroughly embarrassed yet again in your delusional OMB tirade you have proceeded to flat out make up stuff that hasn’t been reported anywhere (even in left wing trash outlets like WAPO and the Times).
Got to be rough to realize that everything shoveled to you was a flat out lie and the fact that you are a mindless sheep easily manipulated is the only reason you believed it. Sad.
wondering what the take was yesterday
anyone know ?
You're funny. Saying all that doesn't make it true.
Fact: The Trump campaign colluded with Russia.
Fact: Orange One was guilty of abuse of power with Ukraine.
Fact: Orange One was impeached twice and is about to be indicted for a whole host of stuff.
Fact: Orange One has been sued about a million times and actually loses a LOT.
Fact: Orange One is a liar and a conman and will go down in history as one of the most infamous, corrupt and hated human beings.
Fact: A young D.J.T. was actually a character witness for disgraced lawyer and Joe McCarthy strategist, Roy Cohn. Let that one sink in.