Newk to open season

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03-17-2018, 11:15 PM
salmagundy

Newk to open season

in rotation. It's official now!!

Left-hander Sean Newcomb will open the year in the Braves’ rotation, Gabriel Burns of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution writes. He’ll be part of a quintet that should also include Julio Teheran, Brandon McCarthy and Mike Foltynewicz, though it’s not yet clear who will occupy the fifth spot. The 24-year-old Newcomb debuted in the majors last season and recorded a 4.32 ERA/4.19 FIP across 100 innings, also posting a promising K/9 (9.72) but a troubling BB/9 (5.13). Braves manager Brian Snitker is impressed with the progress Newcomb has made since last year, saying: “Amazing where he’s at to me right now from where he was a year ago. How much improvement that guy’s made. The confidence, his mound presence, the competitiveness, the whole thing from a year ago today. It’s so much better.”
03-17-2018, 11:16 PM
msstate7

I had no idea this was even a question
03-18-2018, 01:33 AM
Enscheff

I think there was some question as to whether Kaz or Newk would be the #4. I guess this means Kaz is the long man in the BP until they need him to start on the 10th.
03-18-2018, 08:01 AM
nsacpi

Kazmir will be the 8th guy in the pen until the 10th.

I'm guessing the other 7 will be Vizcaino, Minter, Freeman, Ramirez, Winkler, Moylan and Gomez.
03-18-2018, 08:04 AM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by nsacpi

Kazmir will be the 8th guy in the pen until the 10th.

I'm guessing the other 7 will be Vizcaino, Minter, Freeman, Ramirez, Winkler, Moylan and Gomez.

When is Lindgren expected back?
03-18-2018, 08:11 AM
nsacpi

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Originally Posted by msstate7

When is Lindgren expected back?

Not for a while. He is a candidate for the 60-day DL.
03-18-2018, 08:36 AM
Oklahomabrave

Guessing they don’t think showcasing Kazmir will do too much to increase the likelihood of him being traded. I’m guessing he is traded with 95% of his salary eaten to someone like the Mariners or released in the next month.
03-18-2018, 08:52 AM
nsacpi

Gohara is reported to be ahead of schedule recovering from the ankle injury. Will probably still need most of April to get the arm in shape.
03-18-2018, 10:09 AM
clvclv

Quote:

Originally Posted by nsacpi

Kazmir will be the 8th guy in the pen until the 10th.

I'm guessing the other 7 will be Vizcaino, Minter, Freeman, Ramirez, Winkler, Moylan and Gomez.

The same 8 I have projected.

Gomez' outing yesterday gives me a little pause, but as long as he gives them a few good innings before the end of camp it's hard to believe they're not sold on the upside - especially since this is the year to try to develop as much upside as possible. Have to think that we see Soroka for a few starts before the end of the season as well since they're trying to answer as many questions as possible before opening the checkbook next winter.

I think Freeman's going to be a really interesting guy to watch as an extension candidate along with Vizcaino this season. With Minter under control for awhile, locking those two up could give you a pretty strong back-end relatively cheaply.
03-18-2018, 10:12 AM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by clvclv

The same 8 I have projected.

Gomez' outing yesterday gives me a little pause, but as long as he gives them a few good innings before the end of camp it's hard to believe they're not sold on the upside - especially since this is the year to try to develop as much upside as possible. Have to think that we see Soroka for a few starts before the end of the season as well since they're trying to answer as many questions as possible before opening the checkbook next winter.

I think Freeman's going to be a really interesting guy to watch as an extension candidate along with Vizcaino this season. With Minter under control for awhile, locking those two up could give you a pretty strong back-end relatively cheaply.

Corbin clouse will be knocking on the door soon
03-18-2018, 10:39 AM
Enscheff

Quick poll:

Sam Freeman is a BP arm who is already controlled through his age 33 season. Who thinks he is an extension candidate?
03-18-2018, 10:48 AM
Tapate50

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Originally Posted by Enscheff

Quick poll:

Sam Freeman is a BP arm who is already controlled through his age 33 season. Who thinks he is an extension candidate?

I laughed.
03-18-2018, 11:10 AM
clvclv

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Originally Posted by Tapate50

I laughed.

Because all extensions are about adding years?

Making some of these players cost-controlled isn't the worst thing when compared to going to arbitration with them - especially the ones you can lock-up inexpensively. If you can set their salaries where you're comfortable with them it's not a bad idea. 4 years for $8-$10 million if he has another good year certainly gives you more flexibility than going to arbitration and paying him what middle relievers received this year.

Ask Folty about that arbitration enjoyment.

(Obviously they're not the same player, but the number-crunching Astros appear to have done pretty well with their initial Altuve extension. Making sure you KNOW what players' salaries are going to be makes plenty of sense - even if you don't get their free-agent years as part of the deals. I'd imagine AA would love to know how much Acuna and Albies are going to be making 3-4 years from now when he starts writing checks next winter.)
03-18-2018, 11:24 AM
Tapate50

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Originally Posted by clvclv

Because all extensions are about adding years?

Making some of these players cost-controlled isn't the worst thing when compared to going to arbitration with them - especially the ones you can lock-up inexpensively. If you can set their salaries where you're comfortable with them it's not a bad idea. 4 years for $8-$10 million if he has another good year certainly gives you more flexibility than going to arbitration and paying him what middle relievers received this year.

Ask Folty about that arbitration enjoyment.

(Obviously they're not the same player, but the number-crunching Astros appear to have done pretty well with their initial Altuve extension. Making sure you KNOW what players' salaries are going to be makes plenty of sense - even if you don't get their free-agent years as part of the deals. I'd imagine AA would love to know how much Acuna and Albies are going to be making 3-4 years from now when he starts writing checks next winter.)

His arm could explode next week and we’d be locked into an extension. Cmon dude
03-18-2018, 11:55 AM
bravesfanMatt

You could just do series of one year deals to avoid arb hearings instead of an extenting him long term. Don’t assume the risk if you don’t have to. I don’t see much benefit in a long term deal with a middle reliever coming the end of his prime.
03-18-2018, 12:28 PM
Enscheff

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Originally Posted by clvclv

4 years for $8-$10 million if he has another good year certainly gives you more flexibility than going to arbitration and paying him what middle relievers received this year.

Let this comment sink in for a second...

Being able to non-tender a BP arm that’s already in his 30s that will make, at most, $5M-$6M in the next 2 seasons is about as flexible as a scenario can be.

Yet somehow, locking him in with a guaranteed 4 year deal provides the team with MORE flexibility?

Quick poll:

Who thinks giving a controlled player guaranteed money adds flexibility?
03-18-2018, 12:43 PM
chop2chip

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enscheff

Let this comment sink in for a second...

Being able to non-tender a BP arm that’s already in his 30s that will make, at most, $5M-$6M in the next 2 seasons is about as flexible as a scenario can be.

Yet somehow, locking him in with a guaranteed 4 year deal provides the team with MORE flexibility?

Quick poll:

Who thinks giving a controlled player guaranteed money adds flexibility?

Signing Chris Johnson to an extension provided Braves with the flexibility to fire their GM to install a banana republic.
03-18-2018, 12:51 PM
Enscheff

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Originally Posted by chop2chip

Signing Chris Johnson to an extension provided Braves with the flexibility to fire their GM to install a banana republic.

Well to be fair to clvderpclv, extending Freeman isn’t quite as bad an idea as extending CJ was haha.
03-18-2018, 01:57 PM
zbhargrove

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Originally Posted by Enscheff

Quick poll:

Sam Freeman is a BP arm who is already controlled through his age 33 season. Who thinks he is an extension candidate?

Lololololol... oh clv... at least with thethe it's unabashed optimism and fandom... clv it's just... I don't know what it is...
03-18-2018, 06:49 PM
mfree80

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Originally Posted by zbhargrove

Lololololol... oh clv... at least with thethe it's unabashed optimism and fandom... clv it's just... I don't know what it is...

It would really be okay to just disagree with someone without mockery and ridicule. The board would be a much more civil place.
03-18-2018, 07:20 PM
zbhargrove

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Originally Posted by mfree80

It would really be okay to just disagree with someone without mockery and ridicule. The board would be a much more civil place.

Well considering the point of every clv post is to ridicule someone, it's hard not to
03-18-2018, 08:17 PM
Carp

Other than trading Freddie Freeman, signing a middle reliever with 1 good year to a guaranteed 4 year contract is the worst idea I've ever heard. I am not even crazy about extending Viz either and he's the closer.
03-18-2018, 09:45 PM
JohnAdcox

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Originally Posted by Enscheff

Well to be fair to clvderpclv, extending Freeman isn’t quite as bad an idea as extending CJ was haha.

Have you two looked into couple's therapy?