8/23 TUESDAY MINORS FINAL: Rome hot, Mississippi not

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08-23-2016, 07:36 AM
rico43

8/23 TUESDAY MINORS FINAL: Rome hot, Mississippi not

Break up the Rome Braves! They have now won six straight, and 12 out of 14.

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Mississippi, on verge of clinching division, has scored only seven runs in its last 6 games

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TUESDAY'S MINOR LEAGUE RESULTS

CLASS AAA

Gwinnett 8, Buffalo 4
***Omigod! I just realized Casey Kotchman is playing 1B for Buffalo!!!***

WP: Blair (5-4) 5 IP, 6 H, 3 ER, 4 BB, 3 K
Hursh 2 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 2 BB, 2 K
Cunniff 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 1 K
Simmons 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 K

Rojas 2-4, 2B, HR (9th), 2 RBI
Bonifacio 1-5, HR (2nd), 3 RBI
Snyder 2-4, 2B, R, RBI, SB
Ruiz 1-4, 2B, R, RBI

CLASS AA

Biloxi 2, Mississippi 0

SP: Newcomb 6 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 4 BB, 5 K
LP: Morris (3-1) 2 IP, 3 H, 2 R, 0 BB, 2 K

Schrader 1-3, 2B
Meneses 1-3, 2B
Albies 0-3
Peterson DNP

ADVANCED CLASS A

Myrtle Beach 7, Carolina 0

LP: Franco (5-11) 5 IP, 9 H, 3 ER, 1 BB, 5 K
Moran 0.2 IP, 3 H, 2 ER, 1 BB, 0 K
Portuondo 2.1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 2 K
Navarro 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 0 K

Davidson 1-2, BB (.222)
Demeritte 0-3
Scivicque 0-3

CLASS A

Rome 6, Kannapolis 3

WP: Sanchez (7,-9) 7 IP, 4 H, 0 ER(1R), 3 BB, 9 K
Graham 0.2 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 1 K
Clouse (Save, 4) 1.1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 2 K

Castro 3-4, R, 2 RBI
Ellison 2-2, 2 2B, 3 R, RBI, 2 BB
James 1-4, 3B, RBI
Riley 1-4, R

SHORT-SEASON

Danville 6, Bluefield 5 (11)
Mooney walkoff HBP with bases loaded
BLOWN SAVE, allowed 3 runs in 9th

SP: Hellinger 6 IP, 6 H, 2 ER, 3 BB, 2 K
Hyssong 2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 1 K 90.56)
Webb (BS) 0.1 IP, 1 H, 3 ER, 3 BB, 1 K, HR
Gilmore 1.2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 3 K
WP Carroll (1-0) 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 0 K

Cruz 1-5, R, BB, SB
Mooney 2-5, 2B,2 R, RBI, HBP
Pache 2-5, RBI
McLemore 2-4, 2 2B, R, 2 RBI, BB
Cumberland 1-4, RBI

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GCL Blue Jays 5, GCL Braves 2

LP: Javier (4-1) 5 IP, 8 H, 5 ER, 1 BB, 4 K
Heredia 3 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 4 K
Guardado 2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 K
Vega 2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 0 K

Acuna 1-3, BB
Benson 2-4
Ventura 1-4, RBI
A. Salazar 0-3 (rehab)
J Fernandez 2-4, R

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Scheduled Game
DSL Braves 3, DSL Yankees 0 (7)

SP: Lopez 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 0 K
WP: Sepulveda (3-3) 3.1 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 1 K, 2 HBP
Santos 1.2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 1 K
Diaz (Save, 2) 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K

B. Vasquez 2-3
Lora 1-3, HR (1st), 3 RBI
Ramos 1-2, R

Suspended Game
DSL Yankees 6, DSL Braves 5 (7)

LP: Julian (0-8) 1.1 IP, 0 H, 4 ER, 4 BB, 1 K
Volquez 2.2 IOP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K
C. Javier 2 IP, 0 H, 1 ER, 2 BB, 1 K
Yankees: 6 runs on 2 hits

J.C. Encarnacion 1-3, 3B, R
Centeno 0-3, R, RBI
Adrianza 2-4, RBI
Lopez 1-1, 2 R, 3 BB, 2 SB
08-23-2016, 07:37 PM
msstate7

Blair...
4.2 ip 6 h 3 er 3 bb. 3 k

Newcomb...
4.0 ip 1 h 0 er 1 bb 3 k

Sanchez...
6.0 ip 4 h 1 r 3 bb 6 k
08-23-2016, 07:52 PM
bravesfanMatt

Quote:

Originally Posted by msstate7

Blair...
4.2 ip 6 h 3 er 3 bb. 3 k

Newcomb...
4.0 ip 1 h 0 er 1 bb 3 k

Sanchez...
6.0 ip 4 h 1 r 3 bb 6 k

Newk is through 5 with 2bb and 5k. But at 80 pitches. So probably one more inning is it. Getting closer though.
08-23-2016, 09:00 PM
msstate7

Quote:

Originally Posted by msstate7

Blair...
4.2 ip 6 h 3 er 3 bb. 3 k

Newcomb...
4.0 ip 1 h 0 er 1 bb 3 k

Sanchez...
6.0 ip 4 h 1 r 3 bb 6 k

Their finishes...

Blair...
5.0 ip 8 h 3 er 4 bb 3 k

Newcomb...
6.0 ip 2 h 0 er 4 bb 5 k

Sanchez...
7.0 ip 4 h 1 r 3 bb 9 k
08-23-2016, 09:45 PM
Enscheff

Walks walks walks. Same thing every single time.
08-23-2016, 09:46 PM
Managuarantano's Volunteers

Quote:

Originally Posted by msstate7

Their finishes...

Blair...
5.0 ip 8 h 3 er 4 bb 3 k

Newcomb...
6.0 ip 2 h 0 er 4 bb 5 k

Sanchez...
7.0 ip 4 h 1 r 3 bb 9 k

Great stuff from Sanchez, he seems to go back and forth with his starts from great to iffy. I'm hoping he stays looking this amazing.

Newk had a great game and could make it further without the walks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enscheff

Walks walks walks. Same thing every single time.

I hear you, but Newk only gave up 2 hits.

Sanchez with 9Ks today really makes up for his 3 walks too. If he can maintain a good K:BB Ratio, he could be at least a great reliever.
08-23-2016, 09:55 PM
bravesguy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ventura's Stolen Bases

Newk had a great game and could make it further without the walks.

I hear you, but Newk only gave up 2 hits.

I am not sure if it is a pattern, but we always comment on Newcome's high walk total, but this game he walked 3 in the last 1.1 inning. 3/4 of his walks came after ~80 pitches. The reason I noticed is that we had this same kind of discussion a few starts back when he pitched great and gave up 2 walks in his last inning.

Is it possible that he is "getting it" but when he starts to tire out, he loses his mechanics? Has anyone watched him in person?
08-23-2016, 10:36 PM
zbhargrove

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enscheff

Walks walks walks. Same thing every single time.

Just like nearly every high ceiling pitcher... Including Kershsaw
08-23-2016, 11:30 PM
cajunrevenge

We should draft pitchers with elite stuff who can control their stuff and don't get hurt. Those are easy to find right?
08-24-2016, 02:01 AM
bravesfanMatt

Quote:

Originally Posted by bravesguy

I am not sure if it is a pattern, but we always comment on Newcome's high walk total, but this game he walked 3 in the last 1.1 inning. 3/4 of his walks came after ~80 pitches. The reason I noticed is that we had this same kind of discussion a few starts back when he pitched great and gave up 2 walks in his last inning.

Is it possible that he is "getting it" but when he starts to tire out, he loses his mechanics? Has anyone watched him in person?

I completely agree and wanted to say this exactly. His strike to ball ratio is still to low but he is getting closer. His ERA has dropped below 4.
08-24-2016, 04:25 AM
UNCBlue012

I'm sick of hearing about walks. Great job Newcomb!
08-24-2016, 07:19 AM
DaneHill

Quote:

Originally Posted by rico43

***Omigod! I just realized Casey Kotchman is playing 1B for Buffalo!!!***

Wow, I thought he was long out of baseball. He's probably still pouting about being traded away from his beloved Angels.
08-24-2016, 07:27 AM
smootness

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enscheff

Walks walks walks. Same thing every single time.

Enscheff points out the walks. Same thing every single time.
08-24-2016, 07:28 AM
TheBravos

With Gant shaky, and Whalen about to be shut down...I wouldnt be surprised if Newcomb gets a Sept call up.
08-24-2016, 07:35 AM
Tapate50

The last hurdle to fall for Nuke Newcomb is the walks. He is dominating folks.
08-24-2016, 07:47 AM
msstate7

Newcomb vs sims in AA...

Newcomb (age 23)...
3.91 era 129.0 ip 106 h 56 er 68 bb 138 k .228 avg 1.35 whip

Sims (age 22)...
2.45 era 77 ip 48 h 21 er 49 bb 87 k .185 avg 1.26 whip

Which one has higher ceiling?
08-24-2016, 07:49 AM
Russ2dollas

sanchez has talent and is still young. He looks like he's starting to put things together.

With so many valuing patience I think we will see walk and strike out numbers go up. Players are going deeper in counts. And w/o watching these guys who knows what kind of zone they have. The MLB umps are terrible so imagine A ball on a Tuesday afternoon.
08-24-2016, 08:07 AM
smootness

Quote:

Originally Posted by msstate7

Newcomb vs sims in AA...

Newcomb (age 23)...
3.91 era 129.0 ip 106 h 56 er 68 bb 138 k .228 avg 1.35 whip

Sims (age 22)...
2.45 era 77 ip 48 h 21 er 49 bb 87 k .185 avg 1.26 whip

Which one has higher ceiling?

All I can go on is scouting reports, which suggest that Newcomb probably has the higher ceiling. But I don't think Sims is getting his due in prospect rankings.
08-24-2016, 10:14 AM
TheBravos

Sept. 1st bring them both up and see who sticks...I mean, it's not like there is anything to loose.
08-24-2016, 10:18 AM
UNCBlue012

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBravos

Sept. 1st bring them both up and see who sticks...I mean, it's not like there is anything to loose.

I think we need to keep Newcomb down, but bringing Sims up is a good idea.
08-24-2016, 10:22 AM
Tapate50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enscheff

Walks walks walks. Same thing every single time.

We got it at this point. We really do.
08-24-2016, 10:56 AM
Enscheff

Quote:

Originally Posted by bravesguy

I am not sure if it is a pattern, but we always comment on Newcome's high walk total, but this game he walked 3 in the last 1.1 inning. 3/4 of his walks came after ~80 pitches. The reason I noticed is that we had this same kind of discussion a few starts back when he pitched great and gave up 2 walks in his last inning.

Is it possible that he is "getting it" but when he starts to tire out, he loses his mechanics? Has anyone watched him in person?

I've seen someone bring this up ion the past before too. Would be interesting to dig in and see if this is indeed the pattern...walks late in the game.
08-24-2016, 11:27 AM
bravesfanforlife88

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneHill

Wow, I thought he was long out of baseball. He's probably still pouting about being traded away from his beloved Angels.

Well he could resign with them and instantly become their top prospect!
08-24-2016, 12:20 PM
Deester11

Quote:

Originally Posted by msstate7

Newcomb vs sims in AA...

Newcomb (age 23)...
3.91 era 129.0 ip 106 h 56 er 68 bb 138 k .228 avg 1.35 whip

Sims (age 22)...
2.45 era 77 ip 48 h 21 er 49 bb 87 k .185 avg 1.26 whip

Which one has higher ceiling?

Stat scouting sucks all by itself. I've posted numerous scouting reports on Sims and they still hold true. With Newk its walks, Sims too. Difference is, Sims tended to have Whalen-esque innings if someone got a hit. Confidence shot. He's better than before but it rears its head a lot. I don't think its a wide gap, but it's Newk slightly for me.
08-24-2016, 07:50 PM
Southcack77

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deester11

Stat scouting sucks all by itself. I've posted numerous scouting reports on Sims and they still hold true. With Newk its walks, Sims too. Difference is, Sims tended to have Whalen-esque innings if someone got a hit. Confidence shot. He's better than before but it rears its head a lot. I don't think its a wide gap, but it's Newk slightly for me.

Newcomb also has less pro experience and is left handed. Overall package a little higher upside. I think he probably would help himself by getting in better shape, but maybe it has nothing to do with it. couldn't hurt.
08-25-2016, 03:47 PM
Enscheff

Quote:

Originally Posted by bravesguy

I am not sure if it is a pattern, but we always comment on Newcome's high walk total, but this game he walked 3 in the last 1.1 inning. 3/4 of his walks came after ~80 pitches. The reason I noticed is that we had this same kind of discussion a few starts back when he pitched great and gave up 2 walks in his last inning.

Is it possible that he is "getting it" but when he starts to tire out, he loses his mechanics? Has anyone watched him in person?

I just went over Newcomb's game logs for his last 10 starts, during which he has walked 29 batters. Here is the breakdown by inning:

1st: 8
2nd: 5
3rd: 4
4th: 1
5th: 3
6th: 5
7th: 3

Unfortunately, it looks like he is just consistently wild, and it appears to have nothing to do with fatigue late in the game.
08-25-2016, 03:59 PM
bravesfanMatt

His strike to pitch % has been above 60% in every game since his debacle of .2 innings except for this last start.. I think that was 58%. He has been trending better, but still needs to stop running deep counts. He has only gone over 6 innings in 2 games I think. Those are the things I look for. I also think teams learned from the first meetings. He always seemed to fair worse the second time he faced an opponent.