The deal that didn't get done...Ian Kennedy for Wentz

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08-13-2019, 01:52 PM
Tapate50

The deal that didn't get done...Ian Kennedy for Wentz

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Ian Kennedy

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A source told Royals Farm Report that Kansas City had worked out a deal to send Ian Kennedy to Atlanta before the deadline, but that Royals ownership declined to pick up enough of Kennedy's contract.

One wonders just how much the Royals would have had to eat, given that the Braves took on the entire amount owed to Mark Melancon. The report indicates that the Royals would have gotten Joey Wentz in return for Kennedy. Wentz ended up being traded to Detroit along with Travis Demeritte for Shane Greene.
08-13-2019, 06:44 PM
Snowman

I don't actually need to vocalize the fact that I'd have rather spent the money on Kennedy than Melancon, right? I'd like to think this is incomplete reporting for that reason.
08-14-2019, 08:28 AM
Southcack77

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Originally Posted by Snowman

I don't actually need to vocalize the fact that I'd have rather spent the money on Kennedy than Melancon, right? I'd like to think this is incomplete reporting for that reason.

Would the Royals have taken Tristan Beck for him and chipped in 2.5m+?
08-14-2019, 08:45 AM
nsacpi

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Originally Posted by Southcack77

Would the Royals have taken Tristan Beck for him and chipped in 2.5m+?

By my calculation his contract is slightly under water even with the contenders premium. Which means they should be willing to chip in about $2M just to move him. So anything more is based on the value of the return. Tristan Beck and 2.5M is about right. But as I understand it this is not how the owner saw it. It is hard to make a deal when the counterparty is not being rational and dispassionate about valuation.
08-14-2019, 08:48 AM
Tapate50

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Originally Posted by nsacpi

By my calculation his contract is slightly under water even with the contenders premium. Which means they should be willing to chip in about $2M just to move him. So anything more is based on the value of the return. Tristan Beck and 2.5M is about right. But as I understand it this is not how the owner saw it. It is hard to make a deal when the counterparty is not being rational and dispassionate about valuation.

Right, and its like the Royals group doesn't exactly see that return as adequate, but that ANYTHING for a sunk contract in a losing year is likely a win. Much less an arm like Beck.
08-14-2019, 08:52 AM
Southcack77

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Originally Posted by nsacpi

By my calculation his contract is slightly under water even with the contenders premium. Which means they should be willing to chip in about $2M just to move him. So anything more is based on the value of the return. Tristan Beck and 2.5M is about right. But as I understand it this is not how the owner saw it. It is hard to make a deal when the counterparty is not being rational and dispassionate about valuation.

I agree it might have been a reasonable price, but the Royals evidently passed on Wentz and some amount of cash, which was probably a better prospect than Beck.

Kennedy might have made more sense from a L/R balance.

I suspect they added Melancon because they wanted a guy with a lot of big leverage experience (who could be a break glass closer).
08-14-2019, 08:55 AM
nsacpi

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Originally Posted by Southcack77

I agree it might have been a reasonable price, but the Royals evidently passed on Wentz and some amount of cash, which was probably a better prospect than Beck.

Kennedy might have made more sense from a L/R balance.

I suspect they added Melancon because they wanted a guy with a lot of big leverage experience (who could be a break glass closer).

The Melancon deal went down just a few minutes before the deadline. Which makes me think that AA was working on alternative or two that fell through. And Melancon was Plan B or Plan C.
08-14-2019, 08:59 AM
Southcack77

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Originally Posted by nsacpi

The Melancon deal went down just a few minutes before the deadline. Which makes me think that AA was working on alternative or two that fell through. And Melancon was Plan B or Plan C.

I suspect they tried to get one or more of the big relief arms and settled on Melancon when they fell threw.

I'm not really a fan of the Melancon deal any more than I would have been a fan of taking on Kennedy's money.

But, here we are with Melancon closing games...so the third BP piece might well have been a smart move by AA.