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Is it just correlation or is it causation?
Personally I think it's causation because the more divided that we are made the common sense decision (like CEOs making way too damn much money, college is way too damned expensive, Citizen's United being a giant sham, etc.) becomes harder.
US is in a bad situation. We have worse income inequality than the UK who literally has an aristocracy. Let that sink in for a little bit.
Oligarchies rules this land. Get use to it.
Job stagnation. But if you want more pay, they will outsource or give it to a foreigner with lower skills just to make a quick buck.
I'm not really sure why this bothers anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by zitothebrave
The thing is that the American consumer has the power. Even in our dying times, the middle class has the power to dictate the market. Company ships jobs overseas don't buy them. Companies like Walmart that rape American workers, don't buy from them. There needs to be a consumer revolution.
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Originally Posted by AerchAngel
A) every form of government has big divisions between the haves and have nots
B) capitalism will always have a bigger inequality spread than others, just by definition
C) technology is the main reason for the big income inequality in America.
D) if any of us were ceo's we'd be doing the same things with jobs that CEOs do now.
I'm not sure why it doesn't bother everyone? Wealth is not like love, there isn't some kind of infinite well.Quote:
Originally Posted by acesfull86
Throw another analogy. If you are starving on an island with 4 people and someone takes a third of the pie would you not make a stink about it?
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Originally Posted by acesfull86
Because People are ****ing jealous. Notice how they call out CEO's for making so much but do they mention that Will Smith gets 20 million per a movie or how much athletes make? Nope. But they'll call out CEO's
So the Germans, Japanese, Canadians, South Koreans, Norwegians, and Dutch make everything with hammer and chisel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Krgrecw
The problem isn't that the super rich can buy nicer things than us common folk, but that they can buy law makers to skew the balance of power further in their favor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Krgrecw
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Originally Posted by zitothebrave
Nope. But which of those countries have the same percent of minorities that America has?
The income equality between just whites in America is no worse than any other civilized and modern country. The overall numbers in America are skewed due to the massive amount of uneducated minorities in this country.
There is some truth to this. I get railed on about athletes making obscene amount of money but we have equal idiots that pay for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Krgrecw
You are pushing it, my friend, with me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Krgrecw
There are reasons why this is so and I don't think you want to dance with me on that subject.
Lets just say that European blacks do educate themselves and have same and equal pay as their white equivalents, but they did not come over as slaves and conditioned to live a lifestyle inbred for 150 years.
The income pie isn't fixedQuote:
Originally Posted by zitothebrave
So you believe there is an unlimited supply of resources?
I'm just gonna say it, what the flying **** does that have to do with the price of tea in China?Quote:
Originally Posted by Krgrecw
US had minorities in the past, and we made money and didn't have the same level of income inequality. Were minorities magically smarter back in the 60s and 70s? I mean it basically follows 2 trends in the US history, we'll see if we follow the trend again. **** gets bad, banks get out of hand, rich people shave money off, yada yada yada, then the bottom falls out and the stock market crumbles. The average joes revolt and change happens. Things go good for sometime, then the rich find a way to consolidate wealth again and so it continues. We're dealing with here a country who didn't properly invest in the future. The reason the Krauts, Japs, etc. (wanted to see if I could be as offensive as you in a post, did I succeed?) are succeeding is their determination to provide quality education. They don't do the **** that we do. They invest in the future and that's why they're the premier resources in the global market. WHen we built the best products sure there was a premium associated with it but it was worth it. We lost that skill advantage and now there is no premium associated with it.
It couldn't have anything to do with the trillions of dollars the fed reserve prints and sends straight to banks could it?Quote:
Originally Posted by zitothebrave
No. Never
Will Smith doesn't close up factories that employ thousands of American workers and outsource the work using slave labor in China so we can get a cheap POS inferior product for the same price.Quote:
Originally Posted by Krgrecw
Is that the CEO's fault or the lawmakers we have selected's fault?Quote:
Originally Posted by keithlaw