TUESDAY MINORS FINAL 8/7/18: Whitley (remember him?) makes rehab start

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Originally Posted by wowbobwow

If the same gun is not being used in every single one of those reports you are referencing, then those numbers are unreliable for comparisons. Minor league velo reports are incosistent, at best, and generally shouldn't be trusted to compare from source to source. If it's the same source every single time, then that's one thing...but sounds like a pretty uncontrolled study to me... Regardless, your basic premise that he might've been overthrowing is as good of a theory as I've heard yet. The extra adrenaline alone might've been enough to bump his arm speed a couple mph.

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Well hell, all I can tell you is the reports on his velocity were in one band for the first few years of his career and then this year the reports were that he was throwing harder.

I don't have access to reliable minor league data on pitch velocities beyond what is reported on twitter, so I would agree that you shouldn't present my observations in a scientific paper or call me as an expert on the matter at trial.

My best guess though is he was throwing a little bit harder this year.

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I have no idea what his throwing regiment was before or after he got to Atlanta so I'll totally bow out on that one. Could be.

I think shoulder injuries are probably pretty random though rather than some systematic defect in a team's approach. Also just a guess.

I ran across Whitley's ESPN player card yesterday. Glad to see him on the comeback trail.

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Originally Posted by wowbobwow

The Soroka shoulder injury is by far the most troublesome for me... no way a guy that big & that strong, with those clean mechanics, should be experiencing a career-threatening injury at that age. This injury and the days on the DL are a glaring stat for me, one that points to a management philosophy that is severely flawed

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Career threatening?

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Originally Posted by Onlyonegoal

Career threatening?

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well, yeah... Braves FO and beat reporters aren't gonna come out and paint it that way, but... just by nature of the beast, I'd say any shoulder injury that requires a 60day DL stint should be considered career threatening.

Nothing is out yet and is unlikely to be out for at least another two months I bet, but I saw someone hint that there suspiciously seems to be more to it with Soroka and the Braves are hiding something there for now.

Said there are odd comments coming out on him, and it doesn't seem like it's Mike's words.

Ian Anderson to Mississippi. First start scheduled for Sunday.

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Originally Posted by wowbobwow

well, yeah... Braves FO and beat reporters aren't gonna come out and paint it that way, but... just by nature of the beast, I'd say any shoulder injury that requires a 60day DL stint should be considered career threatening.

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you can believe their initial statement or not. It sounded like a downplay to me.

But they were clear that they were shutting him down for extended period because his shoulder pain had recurred and that the combination of the layoff and getting back to starting stamina would require at least 60 days.

I haven’t seen any recent statements. What’s new?

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Originally Posted by GeorgiaGirl

Yes.

It was before surgery that he was a 93-94 guy.

Story remains simple, if possible, try to not bring him back, send him to Driveline over the offseason.

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It sucks because he'd be so freaking good if his stuff was still 93-94. Hell, 92-93 would be solid.

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Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt

The staff has dealt with a lot of shoulder issues this season. Mostly guys who spent time in the bigs. Could chuckie have them doing things that is not good for pitchers to do. Not a pitching expert but seems more guys are having shoulder issues than normal.

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I just think we need to shut guys down and start fresh next year. No reason to push. i know we're in the thick of things, but we're ahead of schedule and there's no need to screw 5-6 years of possible success for one.