Joyce vs Muk

Joyce xwOBA .351 wOBA .360

Muk xwOBA .348 wOBA .336

And for good measure I'll throw in Rafael Ortega xwOBA .355 wOBA .322

Not sure how this will play out, but I think there is a case for giving most of the playing time to whoever is swinging a hot bat.

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Originally Posted by nsacpi

Joyce xwOBA .351 wOBA .360

Muk xwOBA .348 wOBA .336

And for good measure I'll throw in Rafael Ortega xwOBA .355 wOBA .322

Not sure how this will play out, but I think there is a case for giving most of the playing time to whoever is swinging a hot bat.

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What's interesting is that with limited playing time, Joyce has actually done well against lefties this year batting .375 in a mere 16 at-bats. Obviously an extremely small sample size.

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Originally Posted by zbhargrove

What's interesting is that with limited playing time, Joyce has actually done well against lefties this year batting .375 in a mere 16 at-bats. Obviously an extremely small sample size.

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Be very careful with small samples of splits data. Joyce should not be hitting against lefties in any sort of high leverage situation.

Markakis has a ton more PAs against LHP than Joyce. If Joyce were exposed to more than a handful of PAs against lefties the numbers could look very different. So it's hard to draw conclusions now.

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Originally Posted by nsacpi

Joyce xwOBA .351 wOBA .360

Muk xwOBA .348 wOBA .336

And for good measure I'll throw in Rafael Ortega xwOBA .355 wOBA .322

Not sure how this will play out, but I think there is a case for giving most of the playing time to whoever is swinging a hot bat.

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who's worse on defense? i'd assume Markakis.

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Originally Posted by Super

who's worse on defense? i'd assume Markakis.

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I'm not too trusting of a single year of data but the 2019 numbers show Markakis as significantly worse. More likely he is slightly worse.

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Originally Posted by nsacpi

Be very careful with small samples of splits data. Joyce should not be hitting against lefties in any sort of high leverage situation.

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Fully agree and never insinuated he should be in there regularly against lefties.... it just surprised me

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Originally Posted by zbhargrove

Fully agree and never insinuated he should be in there regularly against lefties.... it just surprised me

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It isn't uncommon for hitters with significant splits to have a season or two in their careers which it looks different. When this happens it is almost always just statistical noise. It takes more than a season for splits data to normalize. There were a few months last year when Muk was putting up good numbers against lefties. It had no predictive significance whatsoever. A couple years ago Inciarte was doing well against lefties. Again just noise.

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Originally Posted by nsacpi

It isn't uncommon for hitters with significant splits to have a season or two in their careers which it looks different. When this happens it is almost always just statistical noise. It takes more than a season for splits data to normalize. There were a few months last year when Muk was putting up good numbers against lefties. It had no predictive significance whatsoever. A couple years ago Inciarte was doing well against lefties. Again just noise.

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And again... I fully agree and completely understand.

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Originally Posted by zbhargrove

And again... I fully agree and completely understand.

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i think you need to remember and understand that the sample size is small. Joyce has done fine in limited ABs, but probably wouldn't with more, and he shouldn't be used against lefties when it really counts.

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Originally Posted by Super

i think you need to remember and understand that the sample size is small. Joyce has done fine in limited ABs, but probably wouldn't with more, and he shouldn't be used against lefties when it really counts.

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lol