MINORS THREAD TUESDAY 5/16: Harrington Seeks 5th Win

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05-16-2017, 10:05 PM
jimsnores

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Originally Posted by nsacpi

He had one great start in AAA last year. Which seems to have unduly affected some people. Maybe unduly affected the FO since he was called up shortly thereafter.

Had one great start in MLB, too, didn't he?
05-16-2017, 10:10 PM
Pachoo

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Originally Posted by Pachoo

Thanks, wasn't sure. So Albies was semi well regarded. Looks like we unearthed two treasures in both 2013 and 2014, outperforming many guys who signed for millions those years.

That 2013 class was loaded, though: Eloy Jimenez, Gleyber Torres, Rafael Devers,Victor Robles, Sandy Alcantara. According to one list I found, Albies was the 44th ranked international prospect that signing class.

The 2014 class appears to not have been as good: Anderson Espinoza,Franklin Perez...can't think of anyone else. Who am I missing? Was that really it so far? I know the Yankees went nuts that year, spending over $30 million on bonuses but so far that entire class hasn't done much of anything for them. Acuna might end up the best international signee from 2014.

Btw, our lone big money signing in 2014 was Juan Yepez, for I think $1 million. Acuna signed that year for $100k. Robles signed for $225k in 2013, another example of a lesser recognized prospect at the time who might end up one of the best players in his class.

Along with the seven big bonus international signings for us last year (players who received $1M or more), we also signed 27 other players for bonuses less than $300k. Those 27 guys are lottery tickets to me, guys who can hopefully add on 20 lbs of muscle and explode and/or grow four or five inches (these are 16 year olds we are talking about, afterall).

Fangraphs highlighted two of these lesser known signees of ours in their top prospects list. Guillermo Zuniga - starting pitcher, was older for this class (is 18 already) so they expect him to carve up the rookie leagues this year, says he has a good arsenal. Braulio Vasquez - shortstop, they said he showed up to training camp 15 lbs heavier than when we signed him, something to watch.
05-16-2017, 10:10 PM
rico43

Blair's best outing of the year?
05-16-2017, 10:13 PM
Pachoo

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Originally Posted by rico43

This thanks to Walk-Off Walk:

Placed on DL: Carlos Castro (#49)...One day, he's hitting three homers in a game. The next, he gets blasted in the face and is headed to the DL. That was Castro's week. The three-homer barrage occurred last Wednesday and was part of a 5-for-5 day. He came out of nowhere to hit 17 homers last year in just 84 games and Wednesday's effort gave him six on the young season. Now, he's out for an undetermined amount of time as he suffered a facial fracture when Lakeland's Endrys Briceno came high-and-tight against him.

That seriously blows, had no idea he got hurt. A facial fracture can't be an easy thing to recover from, especially mentally.
05-16-2017, 10:16 PM
Pachoo

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Originally Posted by jimsnores

On base four times. Despite his recent rough stretch, he's reached a level of pretty much league average in hitting, in a league where he's the youngest player. I am hoping he'll get hot and hit like he did in AA last year. Unless the unthinkable happens and the Braves are in a playoff race after call ups are available, I hope he finishes the year in AAA, and posts full season stats that are excellent.

I think we are underestimating the effects of the season ending injury and recovery Albies has gone through. I am not convinced that he has fully recovered yet.
05-16-2017, 10:39 PM
Deester11

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Originally Posted by Pachoo

I think we are underestimating the effects of the season ending injury and recovery Albies has gone through. I am not convinced that he has fully recovered yet.

Thank you. As been stated by many..myself included..his bat to barrel skills are uncanny. Thinking about his injury, it's got to be scary with his wrist and forearm torque. I broke the radial head bone in my forearm and you literally can't rotate your hands, wrist..forearm.

Prospect fatigue is real, but Albies is still our best prospect. I've seen some thinking he is Peraza 2.0 but to me he's much more.
05-17-2017, 12:34 AM
GovClintonTyree

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Originally Posted by Pachoo

That seriously blows, had no idea he got hurt. A facial fracture can't be an easy thing to recover from, especially mentally.

Ask Jason Heyward.
05-17-2017, 06:52 AM
nsacpi

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Originally Posted by jimsnores

Had one great start in MLB, too, didn't he?

Yup. Herein lies a reason not to trust small samples.
05-17-2017, 06:59 AM
TheBravos

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Originally Posted by Deester11

Thank you. As been stated by many..myself included..his bat to barrel skills are uncanny. Thinking about his injury, it's got to be scary with his wrist and forearm torque. I broke the radial head bone in my forearm and you literally can't rotate your hands, wrist..forearm.

Prospect fatigue is real, but Albies is still our best prospect. I've seen some thinking he is Peraza 2.0 but to me he's much more.

I would guess it will be two full years until you start seeing the old Oz
05-17-2017, 07:13 AM
nsacpi

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Originally Posted by TheBravos

I would guess it will be two full years until you start seeing the old Oz

June 2018 is the correct date for him being called up.
05-17-2017, 07:19 AM
thethe

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Originally Posted by nsacpi

June 2018 is the correct date for him being called up.

1.5 years in AAA? Even if he finishes this year with a strong performance?
05-17-2017, 07:41 AM
Hudson2

If Albies ends the year on a high note I see no reason he won't be the favorite for the job going into spring training.
05-17-2017, 07:46 AM
thewupk

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Originally Posted by thethe

1.5 years in AAA? Even if he finishes this year with a strong performance?

Super 2 cutoff would not be a concern for me. But I see no reason to call him up before the first couple of weeks of 2018.
05-17-2017, 07:49 AM
TheBravos

If Phillips continues as is...he will be traded by the deadline.
05-17-2017, 07:52 AM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by TheBravos

If Phillips continues as is...he will be traded by the deadline.

He's fell off lately... .699 ops 0.0 bWAR
05-17-2017, 08:03 AM
nsacpi

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Originally Posted by thethe

1.5 years in AAA? Even if he finishes this year with a strong performance?

Yeah. And I'm not too worried his feelings will get hurt, causing him to be ill-disposed to a team friendly extension at some future date.
05-17-2017, 08:03 AM
thewupk

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Originally Posted by TheBravos

If Phillips continues as is...he will be traded by the deadline.

If anybody wants him
05-17-2017, 08:06 AM
thethe

I see no way Albies isn't on the opening day roster. He is probably up in September.
05-17-2017, 08:11 AM
sturg33

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Originally Posted by thethe

I see no way Albies isn't on the opening day roster. He is probably up in September.

You're probably right with this front office
05-17-2017, 08:12 AM
thewupk

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Originally Posted by thethe

I see no way Albies isn't on the opening day roster. He is probably up in September.

And that would be a mistake just like calling Swanson up was.

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