Around Baseball Offseason Edition - Derek Jeter will retire at seasons end

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Originally Posted by thethe

I agree completely that this new fielding system is going to change everything. I just believe that the method of evaluating defense at this point in time is guesswork at best. Yes, its easy to say that Simmons/Heyward are great defenders. But how great? Thats up for debate.

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I wouldn't call it guesswork. The data they use for UZR and DRS is real. The more data available however the better these stats will become.

Kershaw to the DL

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Fister is supposed to miss how long now?

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Originally Posted by thethe

Fister is supposed to miss how long now?

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Williams was quoted as saying it was a moving target but did mention 3-4 weeks.

Pitchers are just dropping like flies.

pitchers break...all the time

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Originally Posted by nsacpi

pitchers break...all the time

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Yup, that's why the extensions the Braves have given (young position players) makes sense and extending pitchers doesn't.

How many people clammored for extending Beachy and/or Medlen? Both are now second TJ patients and their careers could potentially be over. I'm not saying they will be but I think the number of players who've had long productive careers after 2 TJs is pretty small.

I think its fair to say that Medlen/Beachy will never be impactful major leaguers again. That sucks.....

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Originally Posted by zitothebrave

Yup, that's why the extensions the Braves have given (young position players) makes sense and extending pitchers doesn't.

How many people clammored for extending Beachy and/or Medlen? Both are now second TJ patients and their careers could potentially be over. I'm not saying they will be but I think the number of players who've had long productive careers after 2 TJs is pretty small.

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Also why Teheran's was the only extension I didn't care much for.

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Originally Posted by thethe

I think its fair to say that Medlen/Beachy will never be impactful major leaguers again. That sucks.....

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Bullpen is about as much as one should hope for.

I can see Meds maybe coming back from it since he doesnt rely on velocity, mainly location/command.

But odds are slim he's most likely a set-up man at best the rest of his career.