http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/10/politi...men/index.html
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In Alabama Senate race, Republicans fear they may lose even if Roy Moore wins
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From their perspective, Tuesday will yield one of two unhappy results.
Either voters will elect a Democratic U.S. senator from one of the most deeply conservative states in the country, slicing the GOP's slender majority to a bare 51 to 49; or the Republican Party will seat Roy Moore, an accused sexual predator with a history of outlandish statements who, if Democrats have their way, will effectively serve as running mate for every Republican seeking office in 2018.
With President Trump forcefully backing Moore, "it gives Democrats the ability to drive a narrative that starts with the president and runs through the United States Senate about what the Republican Party stands for," said Matt David, a GOP consultant. "That's defending accused pedophiles and embracing conspiracy theories."
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i don't know if i have ever labeled myself as a progressive
left leaning libertarian sure
secularist, again sure
some friends and i joke that i'm the most capitalist communist ever to point out that it depends on the topic to where i fall on political spectrum but i digress
not that i have a problem with progressivism overall but what you are describing isn't that
i'm not sure what dots are you are trying to connect at the end but it seems like rubbish
what the orange dotard is doing isn't changing america in anyway that is close to progressive and it should be laughed at for you trying to say that
but as i said with [MENTION=266]Hawk[/MENTION] and maybe others, the odd thing with this idiot in chief is that he could actually bridge the gap and bring people to together if he tried but he either is too stupid or just doesn't care to do that. I guess it could be both though as well
The moral high ground certainly hasn't helped in Alabama recently. Their governor got embroiled in a sex scandal and traded the Senate appointment to the guy who had taken over investigating him. Their House speaker got re-elected under a multi-count corruption indictment. Now Roy Moore is probably going to win despite being ... well, everything that he is even before taking his alleged Lolita thing into account.
I don't think it's going away, though. Every Republican who hasn't distanced themself from him is going to be answering questions about their support for a guy who thinks that everything beyond the 10th Amendment is superfluous and that homosexuality should be criminal and that federal court orders are optional and that women shouldn't hold office for, er, biblical reasons (he apparently worked with a non-profit on developing "educational" materials that asserted thus). He's poison and the national Rs would win by losing in this case, but they've apparently decided to bet on the short run... which probably indicates that they think they're ****ed in 2018 regardless.
btw to amend to the end there of my last post
i do think a few years ago with the things he said about President Obama and when he started down that path, he reached a point of no return of bringing a lot into the fold even if he was to reach across and try to bring people together
and he only has his himself and his vitriol to blame for that
This race has become a must win for the GOP if they have any hope of advancing their agenda through the Senate. Given how gutless they have been in doing so, I think I agree with them that it isn't worth it. They've had Trump out front with a huge bullseye on his back literally begging them to go big while he takes the hits, but they still won't do it. They've wasted what may have been their last best chance for a long time.
Regardless, I couldn't vote for Moore.
How would y'all feel if Roy Moore used black slave labor at the governor's mansion to keep costs down? That the kind of person you would vote for?
Just make sure you two don't vote for any unicorns
because of me believing and knowing of some horrible things we have done in the world
i also understand geopolitics and that sometimes your hands have to get dirty etc etc
but that doesn't in anyway back up your false equivalency
or the bull**** distraction of changing the topic or attempting to spin it to an unrelated matter (ie me)
Suddenly changing a belief you've had since I've been posting on these boards. At the very least that's 12 years so I assume you've held that belief for your whole life
You're that willing to change your view on such a strongly held belief because of the person that agrees with it?