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    Among the most perplexing features of Donald Trump’s surge to victory has been the enthusiastic support of evangelical Christians for a man who can barely name any books of the Bible. Now that Trump’s nomination has forced me to consider soberly the real possibility of casting a vote for that man, I’m finding the Christian groundswell behind Trump ever more mystifying. One of my most pressing objections to voting for Trump is that I can’t see a way to do so as a Christian. I’m starting to think Trump’s ideology might represent the actual opposite of Christianity.

    Here’s what I don’t mean by that. I don’t mean that Trump is such a meanie and my sweet, precious Jesus would never tolerate all that yelling. Reports of Christ’s niceness have been greatly exaggerated. Flip through the gospels and you’ll find a much rougher, scrappier character than you may have been led to expect–upending tables, talking back to his mother, fiercely vituperating his best friends. The use of the term “Christian” to mean “cuddly” is one of the more distasteful banalizations of that word in American popular culture. “Unchristian” isn’t a synonym for “uncouth.”
    No, my problem is that Trump’s worldview is pretty much diametrically opposed to the one inherent in Jesus’ life story. By his own gleeful admission, Trump is all about “winning, winning, winning.” This means that from the bedroom to the electoral college, he defines human value in terms of material and worldly success. Who’s got the hottest wife, the biggest fortune, the most votes? These are the questions that, for Trump, determine which members of our species are worthwhile. The losers–prisoners of war, victims of violence, the disabled–don’t count.

    By contrast, perhaps the single most anomalous aspect of Christianity is that it united a global movement behind the biggest loser in history. This is what disgusted Nietzsche about our faith and what inspired the martyrs of the early church to march to their disgraceful deaths singing hymns of triumph and joy. In earthly terms–the terms Trump understands–Jesus was a poor, homeless failure who never managed to cash in on his initially promising popularity campaign. He had charisma, but the bottom line is that he ended up humiliated and killed. Trump, one may surmise, likes religious leaders who don’t get nailed to a cross.

    Christianity is loser-worship. That’s what makes it a radical paradigm shift unlike anything before or since. The crucifixion places God firmly on the side of mankind’s write-offs–it counts him chief among their numbers. In so doing it utterly negates the power-driven systems that have governed human society since its inception. Prisoners, women, the mentally ill: we thought these were the rejects. In fact, they are among the first invited into intimate relationship with the most high God. We were sure that those who suffer inexplicable calamity are under the judgment of heaven; it turns out they are in the company of its king.

    What Trump stands for amounts to the opposite of this, and that matters. It matters because, paradoxically, Trump’s success represents an uprising of America’s outcasts. His voters are the ones denied admission to the in-crowd. The chattering classes and the political establishment and the professional predictors all failed to foresee the rise of Trump for one simple reason: not one of them has a clue what the unexceptional, everyday folks outside of their refined inner ring are thinking and feeling. Reasonably frightened by the very real threat of Islamic terrorism, unemployed in a limp Obama economy, utterly sick of being lied to by self-righteous cultural ideologues: the people Peggy Noonan called “the unprotected” are making themselves heard.

    The wealthy, educated elite who produce and consume the media–among whom I include myself–will be just fine no matter who gets elected. But there are scores of people whose lives depend on this, and we had no idea how badly they were hurting. They are desperate for the security and prosperity Trump claims he can provide.

    Only in a fallen world would those people rally behind a man so constitutionally disdainful of them. Granted, their options weren’t great. Hillary Clinton lied to their faces, and Bernie Sanders promised to infantilize them until the country went broke. But Trump expressly mocks their poverty and rejects the whole premise of the one philosophy that exalts them as children of God. Christians are called to serve a king whose kingdom is not of this world, as Trump’s so manifestly is.

    The words “President Hillary” nauseate me a little. But how can I vote for Trump and still glorify the loser who saved my soul?

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    The only thing I'd dispute here is that "Bernie Sanders promised to infantilize them until the country went broke". The left's desire for a more robust welfare state is no more infantilizing than the New Testament's championing of the meek and marginalized. And, indeed, leftist policy proposals are engaged in the same sort of radical "loser-worship" as this author implicates for Christ, but merely at work in Caesar's domain as opposed to God's.
    "For all his tattooings he was on the whole a clean, comely looking cannibal."

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    Depends I suppose on how it actually played out. But I get your point.

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    Whats weird about religious people blindly following who they are told to?
    "Donald Trump will serve a second term as president of the United States.

    It’s over."


    Little Thethe Nov 19, 2020.

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    And then there's this, which some of my oldest and most respected friends claim contains reasons why Christians can and should vote for Trump. It's also nothing but racist BS but whatever. (eyerollers for me in bold)

    New York Times bestselling author and radio host Eric Metaxas explained Monday why he thinks conservative Christians should vote for Donald Trump.

    Metaxas, the author of the recently released book If You Can Keep It: The Forgotten Promise of American Liberty, was interviewed by The Daily Caller's Casey Harper at the Republican National Convention in Cleveland and spent most of the interview discussing the presumptive GOP presidential nominee.

    As a number of conservative evangelicals are still trying to decide whether to vote for the thrice-married real estate mogul or stay true to the #NeverTrump movement, Metaxas asserted that the consequences of not voting for Trump could be disastrous for the future of America.

    Metaxas wrote in his book that the United States is in grave danger of becoming "America in name only," stressing that the election of presumptive Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton will only help make that danger a reality.

    "If Hillary Clinton is elected, I do not believe that we will get a second chance," Metaxas said. "We are at the edge …"

    Fearing that Clinton would nominate liberal Supreme Court justices who would "legislate from the bench," Metaxas warned that the Democrats are trying to keep an open border and allow illegal immigration so that the country will never "be able to demographically elect somebody who is a constitutionalist again."

    "We are just not going to have the numbers," he said. "It's that desperate."

    "We need to understand that if you care about this country, you care about the rest of the world, you need to take this election very seriously," he added. "Beyond that, I don't think Trump is going to save America. I think Trump would pull us back five feet from the cliff so that we have bought ourselves a little time to keep the republic. I think if Hillary Clinton is elected, we are not going to have that ability."

    Metaxas stated that he doesn't think Trump is a great American leader like George Washington, but noted that Americans still have an "obligation to vote."

    "We have an obligation to say that 'if I don't vote, I understand that I am allowing Hillary Clinton to become the president if I don't vote for Donald Trump,'" he contended. "It is one of these things that you don't have to like voting for Trump, you can even hate Trump, but you better be sure that you understand what a Hillary Clinton presidency brings."

    While Metaxas would not vouch for Trump's virtue, he said that he believes Trump loves America and doesn't believe that Trump is seeking to "line his own pockets" through corruption.

    "We are not talking about sexual ethics. We are not talking about being a narcissist or being humble. We are talking about something really fundamental," Metaxas explained. "When you are in a war mentality, you say, 'Who is going to stand up where we need to stand up?' I do believe [Trump] cares about the country. I do believe he will appoint judges that are constitutionalists. When people say, 'Oh, you have know idea what he is going to do.' But, you know what Hillary Clinton is going to do."

    "I have been attacked on this and I am baffled because if you love America, sometimes you have to hold your nose and vote for the person who is going to do the least damage or who is going to pull you back from the brink," Metaxas continued. "I am genuinely convinced that means voting for Trump."

    (the article continues where he says he doesn't think Trump is a racist.)

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    ^^^ Not that.

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    Maybe the best thing the new daily show has done:

    http://www.cc.com/video-clips/st6k1m...f-donald-trump
    "For there is always light, if only we are brave enough to see it. If only we are brave enough to be it." Amanda Gorman

    "When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross"

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    That clip about sums up my attempt the last few days to talk my family out of voting for Trump.
    "Donald Trump will serve a second term as president of the United States.

    It’s over."


    Little Thethe Nov 19, 2020.

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