Folty (5 starts)
11.42 k9, 4.50 bb9, 2.77 era, 3.75 FIP, 0.3 fWAR, .295 babip
Newcomb (5 starts)
11.06 k9, 4.55 bb9, 4.23 era, 3.65 FIP, 0.4 fWAR, .343 babip
Folty (5 starts)
11.42 k9, 4.50 bb9, 2.77 era, 3.75 FIP, 0.3 fWAR, .295 babip
Newcomb (5 starts)
11.06 k9, 4.55 bb9, 4.23 era, 3.65 FIP, 0.4 fWAR, .343 babip
Swanson sucks
squint...not much to choose from based on the data
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
jpx7 (04-27-2018)
Newk hanging out just below the magic 5.0 BB/9 line.
Question for Enscheff or other more statistically knowledgeable posters. If Newk could sustain the slight improvement over a significant sample and maintain a 4.5 BB/9 or thereabouts, does that significantly change his expected career outcome or his comps? Or would he still be in fringe starter/ reliever territory? Maybe a better question is, where does his BB/9 need to be before his projectable outcome is more in line with what the Braves need out of him?
Before we give up on him either way, I'd like to see if a change from a pitching coach whose calling card seems to be teaching guys how to increase their walk totals would help.
Last edited by DirkPiggler; 04-27-2018 at 10:06 AM.
Newcomb probably needs to get his BB/9 to at least 3.5 or so to truly be a weapon. Still, as is, he's a decent starter.
JohnAdcox (04-28-2018)
DirkPiggler (04-27-2018)
Folty would benefit from a new pitching coach that could help him figure out a different approach because the approach he has is not working and never has been at the major league level. He consistently gets hit hard the third time through.
Newcomb seems like he has a mechanical issue that causes him to miss armside at times with the drop of a hat.
Aggression with prospects is fine, but being stupid is not. There should be a way to find a happy medium between a Pirates like idea of being overly cautious with prospects and going stupidly fast with prospects.
DirkPiggler (04-27-2018)
FreemanFan (05-06-2018), JohnAdcox (04-28-2018)
Both are MLB starting pitchers. Both are maddening. Both will probably never be great even though Their stuff is very good. If they can improve their command/control the would be very good, although unlikely at this point significantly.
jpx7 (04-27-2018)
If not for the two-out, three-run homer by Votto yesterday, Newk’s ERA would be around 2.90 or so. It happens. Both guys need to get those walks down, though.
Ventura's Stolen Bases
Not surprised the stats back up that newk is better. It's pretty clear to me when I watch.
jpx7 (04-28-2018)
Fried doesn't have much hope as a starter, or pitcher at all in the majors because of how straight his fastball is. A "well located fastball" at 90-92 can be hit by anyone.
Aggression with prospects is fine, but being stupid is not. There should be a way to find a happy medium between a Pirates like idea of being overly cautious with prospects and going stupidly fast with prospects.
I'll politely disagree with your last statement to an extent. In the current era, most hitters can make contact with a fastball between 90 and 92. But that's where location comes in. Fried profiles as a ground ball pitcher and the problem with a lot of ground ball pitchers is that when their fastball gets up, if only by a smidgen, it gets ripped by, like you say, almost anyone. Fried's minor league HR numbers were solid, but that hasn't held at the big league level. Add to that his iffy control and it's obvious he has a few hills to climb before he can be a consistent major league pitcher. Fried is going to have to rely on better location at the major league level than he has shown to this point. If he gets that, I think he can contribute.
Jaw (05-03-2018)