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    Modern Era (1970-87) Committee's turn to vote on HOF

    On December 8th, the voting will be announced on the "Modern Era" Veterans Committee for the Baseball Hall of Fame. The "Modern Era" is considered to be 1970-87.
    An unofficial companion site to the Hall of Fame (HallofStats.com) has listed candidates on a points system. If they are anywhere near accurate, it means another year of disappointment for Dale Murphy. Their ratings have Murph tied for 34th among "worthy" candidatates.

    Their system has these rated as the top 10 candidates. Any candidate needs 75 percent of the vote to be admitted:

    (points in parentheses)
    1. Lou Whitaker (145)
    2. Bobby Grich (141)
    3. Rick Reuschel (136)
    4. Luis Tiant (129)
    5. Graig Nettles (126)
    6. Reggie Smith (125)
    7. Willie Randolph (124)
    Buddy Bell (124)
    Dwight Evans (124)
    10. Sal Bando (117)

    Among favorites of many fans and past campaigns include Bobby Bonds (14th, 112 points), Tommy John (17th, 106), Thurman Munson (20th, 102), Murphy, Jim Kaat (tied for 37th with 87 points); Dave Parker and Don Mattingly (tied in 50th with 78 points).
    Also a finalist: Ted Simmons (13th, 113), Steve Garvey (84th, 62), and non-player, Marvin Miller.

    ***PLEASE NOTE***
    I laugh at the system because it seems remotely attached to reality. That's because in the "regular" Hall of Fame vote for 2020, first-time candidate Derek Jeter (likely close to a unanimous pick) was ranked LOWER than 6 holdover candidates: Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, Curt Schilling, Larry Walker, Scott Rolen and Manny Ramirez -- and just one point ahead of Andruw Jones. Jeter is rated the same at Tiant (129).

    But it's a system, and one that could certainly generate plenty of debate. But I make no claim to it other than to use it to spark this forum.

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    For what it's worth, my gut is that Lou Whitaker (19 seasons, 2,369 hits, Rookie of the Year, 5-time all-star, 4 Silver Sluggers, 3 Gold Gloves) is certainly no less deserving that his DP mate Trammell.

    Luis Tiant (19 seasons, 239-172, 3.30 ERA career, 4-time 20-game winner, two-time ERA champ, 3-time all-star) was starting to build momentum in his final years on the regular ballot.

    Neither one would cause much of an outcry if named.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rico43 View Post
    For what it's worth, my gut is that Lou Whitaker (19 seasons, 2,369 hits, Rookie of the Year, 5-time all-star, 4 Silver Sluggers, 3 Gold Gloves) is certainly no less deserving that his DP mate Trammell.

    Luis Tiant (19 seasons, 239-172, 3.30 ERA career, 4-time 20-game winner, two-time ERA champ, 3-time all-star) was starting to build momentum in his final years on the regular ballot.

    Neither one would cause much of an outcry if named.
    Tiant deserves to get in simply based off of how dirty he is in Diamond Dynasty on MLB The Show. Most ridiculously filthy pitcher in that game.

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    Tommy John should go in just for his impact on the game from his surgery
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    Sadly Murphy is not a HOFer by almost any standard.

    Jeter is a HOFer but not nearly as good as his vote % will indicate.

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    It should just be Whitaker, but who knows. They let Lee Smith in last time *shrug*.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Sadly Murphy is not a HOFer by almost any standard.

    Jeter is a HOFer but not nearly as good as his vote % will indicate.
    The standard is that he was one of the top two or three players in the game for a period of time...about 5-6 years to be exact. And since Jim Rice is in now, the standard is that Murphy was better than Rice and should go in.

    Not that I'm biased or anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    If I watched the team through the 80's I might have a different opinion. I am pro Andruw for the Hall after all.
    As the greatest defensive outfielder ever Andruw should be a shoo in. The fact that we were worried he’d fall off the ballot in one year is a joke.

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