The Liberal Media Bubble

[sturg33]

Nate Silver has a great piece on the liberal media bubble and the dangers of groupthink.

I recommend you all check it out

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...-media-bubble/

[Hawk]

*is

[thethe]

The real shock to the liberal (not actually liberal anymore) bubble is when Trump is reelected.

[goldfly]

The real shock to the liberal (not actually liberal anymore) bubble is when Trump is reelected.

again, tell me where you want to put in escrow and we can meet to do it

[Runnin]

The real shock to the liberal (not actually liberal anymore) bubble is when Trump is reelected.

If Trump lasts 4 years it will considered a huge success.

[Hawk]

[Julio3000]

I'm not sure what this is supposed to signify.

Based on the graphic at the bottom, I assume it's referring to what Dmitry Peskov said on Fareed Zakaria's show on CNN. So it's based on a story reported on CNN, a major news outlet, yet one not included in that graphic. That might tend to undercut the case they're making.

If you'd like to get specific, let's look at Mr.Peskov's actuall words:

“Well, if you look at some people connected with Hillary Clinton during her campaign, you would probably see that he had lots of meetings of that kind,” Dmitry Peskov told CNN “GPS” host Fareed Zakaria. “There are lots of specialists in politology, people working in think tanks advising Hillary or advising people working for Hillary.”

Not only is that not "Clinton Team Also Met Russian Ambassador," it's . . . actually, it's nothing, without supporting information. What's the news that was made that the networks aren't reporting on? A Russian spokesman made an extremely vague statement. News at 11.

Did Fox do some awesome follow-up reporting that I missed? I mean, if there's a story here that's being buried, seems like they'd be all over it.

Did people at think tanks within X degrees of separation of Hillary Clinton meet the Russian Ambassador? I'd be shocked if someone didn't. I agree that there's been a degree of hysteria about meeting an ambassador in the ordinary course of his duties, but there's still this fundamentally dishonest elision of the fact that the salient story is that people around Trump (and Trump himself) have been consistently lying about those contacts.

So this looks like a dodge, designed solely to give cover to the WH, coming from a friendly media outlet. If you're posting this as evidence of liberal media groupthink (the principle of which I'm not disputing), my question is: what's the big story that's not being reported?

[sturg33]

I'm getting investigated for Russian connections after having a vodka tonic last night

[Hawk]

I'm not sure what this is supposed to signify.

Based on the graphic at the bottom, I assume it's referring to what Dmitry Peskov said on Fareed Zakaria's show on CNN. So it's based on a story reported on CNN, a major news outlet, yet one not included in that graphic. That might tend to undercut the case they're making.

If you'd like to get specific, let's look at Mr.Peskov's actuall words:

“Well, if you look at some people connected with Hillary Clinton during her campaign, you would probably see that he had lots of meetings of that kind,” Dmitry Peskov told CNN “GPS” host Fareed Zakaria. “There are lots of specialists in politology, people working in think tanks advising Hillary or advising people working for Hillary.”

Not only is that not "Clinton Team Also Met Russian Ambassador," it's . . . actually, it's nothing, without supporting information. What's the news that was made that the networks aren't reporting on? A Russian spokesman made an extremely vague statement. News at 11.

Did Fox do some awesome follow-up reporting that I missed? I mean, if there's a story here that's being buried, seems like they'd be all over it.

Did people at think tanks within X degrees of separation of Hillary Clinton meet the Russian Ambassador? I'd be shocked if someone didn't. I agree that there's been a degree of hysteria about meeting an ambassador in the ordinary course of his duties, but there's still this fundamentally dishonest elision of the fact that the salient story is that people around Trump (and Trump himself) have been consistently lying about those contacts.

So this looks like a dodge, designed solely to give cover to the WH, coming from a friendly media outlet. If you're posting this as evidence of liberal media groupthink (the principle of which I'm not disputing), my question is: what's the big story that's not being reported?

So let me get this straight. Flynn/Sessions (routinely) meeting with a Russian Ambassador is news because it fits your Red Scare narrative, but Clinton's team purportedly doing the same exact thing isn't news because ... no 'supporting information'.

I wonder who the onus is on to produce that information?

[BedellBrave]

Nate Silver has a great piece on the liberal media bubble and the dangers of groupthink.

I recommend you all check it out

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...-media-bubble/

Good read sturg. Wonder if he'll get the same treatment as Snowden and Assange from certain quarters.

[Krgrecw]

The real shock to the liberal (not actually liberal anymore) bubble is when Trump is reelected.

Trump can cure all forms of cancer and goldy and 57 will still **** on him.

[goldfly]

Trump can cure all forms of cancer and goldy and 57 will still **** on him.

you're an idiot

[thethe]

Shocked I say....shocked

[Julio3000]

Nate Silver has a great piece on the liberal media bubble and the dangers of groupthink.

I recommend you all check it out

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...-media-bubble/

Groupthink is an insidious affliction which uniquely affects liberals.

[BedellBrave]

Groupthink is an insidious affliction which uniquely affects liberals.

No it doesn't. :-)

[Julio3000]

"We have stated many times that there are no Russian troops on the territory of Ukraine. And while President Obama is saying that there are no doubts about it, officials from the U.S. State Department simultaneously with their president are saying that the U.S. does not have any evidence of the presence of the Russian military in the territory of Ukraine. This situation stresses the reluctance to rely on facts,"
Peskov said to the Russian News Service(September '14).

Seriously, y'all. A "probably" from this guy via a desperately spinning Fox News is not the place from whence great media criticism is born.

[Hawk]

"We have stated many times that there are no Russian troops on the territory of Ukraine. And while President Obama is saying that there are no doubts about it, officials from the U.S. State Department simultaneously with their president are saying that the U.S. does not have any evidence of the presence of the Russian military in the territory of Ukraine. This situation stresses the reluctance to rely on facts,"
Peskov said to the Russian News Service(September '14).

Seriously, y'all. A "probably" from this guy via a desperately spinning Fox News is not the place from whence great media criticism is born.

“There was no such wiretap activity mounted against the president, the president-elect, at the time, or as a candidate, or against his campaign,” James Clapper said on NBC’s “Meet the Press” Sunday morning.

vs.

"Does the NSA collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans?"

"No, sir." – James Clapper, under oath.

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FWIW, in the interests of an accurate media criticism, Peskov made his comments on CNN and they were newsworthy enough to be picked up by multiple outlets. Fox just chose to highlight the disparity of coverage on major American TV networks.

[Julio3000]

never been a vodka/tonic fan

now Hendricks gin and tonic, i'm on board with

I'd say "what are you, some kind of commie weirdo?" except--

[Runnin]

Rachel Maddow claims to have Thumper's tax returns. Real? Does it even matter at this point?

[Krgrecw]

Rachel Maddow claims to have Thumper's tax returns. Real? Does it even matter at this point?

Do you watch her show? I can't stand her