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    Josh Hamilton

    This does not sound good. Multiple reports saying that he is going to New York to meet with MLB and the Angels are bracing for penalties against him. Ken Rosenthal asked a baseball executive if it has anything to do with with PEDs and was told "worse". The executive did not elaborate.

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    Josh Hamilton's father-in-law Michael Chadwick said player has ``hit a bump in the road, keep him in your prayers.''
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    Worse than PEDs? Gambling on baseball?

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    Gotta be substance abuse again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalyn View Post
    Worse than PEDs? Gambling on baseball?
    I'm guessing it's hard drugs again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeezus View Post
    I'm guessing it's hard drugs again.
    Didn't know baseball considered that worse than PEDs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalyn View Post
    Didn't know baseball considered that worse than PEDs.
    Well, I'm not sure they consider it worse for baseball, but it is certainly a more troubling life development. I guess it depends on how you interpret "worse."

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeezus View Post
    Well, I'm not sure they consider it worse for baseball, but it is certainly a more troubling life development. I guess it depends on how you interpret "worse."
    Worse for him on a personal level, I guess, but that's the nature of addiction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonCowboy View Post
    Ken Rosenthal asked a baseball executive if it has anything to do with with PEDs and was told "worse".
    no, blow isn't worse for the game than PEDs
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    no, blow isn't worse for the game than PEDs
    Right. He prefers to go by Melvin now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    no, blow isn't worse for the game than PEDs
    as i said earlier, he clearly meant "worse" as in more concerning for his life.

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    I'm sorry but I just can't sympathize with him. I've seen and experienced first hand what drug addiction can do. His social status makes him readily available to excellent resources to combat this addiction and this is the 2nd or 3rd time he relapsed. He admitted it because he probably got caught. Just imagine the times he's used that no one knows about. Come on dude, you are a millionaire, utilize those top of line resources. Ridiculous and time to grow the FCK up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsebe10 View Post
    I'm sorry but I just can't sympathize with him. I've seen and experienced first hand what drug addiction can do. His social status makes him readily available to excellent resources to combat this addiction and this is the 2nd or 3rd time he relapsed. He admitted it because he probably got caught. Just imagine the times he's used that no one knows about. Come on dude, you are a millionaire, utilize those top of line resources. Ridiculous and time to grow the FCK up.
    Something tells me by your reply that you meant second hand. While his social status "makes him readily available to excellent resources," it also makes excellent drugs available to him and in his face on a regular basis. And PLENTY of addicts go for help after a binge without getting caught. Most of them want help because it really stopped being all that much fun years and years ago. Growing the **** up has more to do with your post than his situation, in my opinion.

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    I actually really like Josh Hamilton, so this sucks. He seems like a pretty good dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalyn View Post
    Something tells me by your reply that you meant second hand. While his social status "makes him readily available to excellent resources," it also makes excellent drugs available to him and in his face on a regular basis. And PLENTY of addicts go for help after a binge without getting caught. Most of them want help because it really stopped being all that much fun years and years ago. Growing the **** up has more to do with your post than his situation, in my opinion.
    Well said!

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    I would be highly disappointed if MLB disciples him for relapsing and he confessed of his own free will. This has nothing to do with MLB and everything to do with his well being as a person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsebe10 View Post
    I'm sorry but I just can't sympathize with him. I've seen and experienced first hand what drug addiction can do. His social status makes him readily available to excellent resources to combat this addiction and this is the 2nd or 3rd time he relapsed. He admitted it because he probably got caught. Just imagine the times he's used that no one knows about. Come on dude, you are a millionaire, utilize those top of line resources. Ridiculous and time to grow the FCK up.
    Ah yes - money cures all!!!

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    Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsebe10 View Post
    I'm sorry but I just can't sympathize with him. I've seen and experienced first hand what drug addiction can do. His social status makes him readily available to excellent resources to combat this addiction and this is the 2nd or 3rd time he relapsed. He admitted it because he probably got caught. Just imagine the times he's used that no one knows about. Come on dude, you are a millionaire, utilize those top of line resources. Ridiculous and time to grow the FCK up.
    What an ignorant a**hole post. Whether you choose to believe it or not, drug addiction is a legitimate disease and a nasty one. Its not something you can just turn on and off with a switch. When I was in rehab, many of the others there had been in other programs... sometimes 6 or 7 times. With relapses in the double digits. When these people are clear headed and sober, they are some of the most delightful people you would ever come across. No one wants to ever go back to using, but unfortunately, we all go back to the same friends... same family members... same circumstances in life. I was lucky because I was able to completely cut EVERYONE off and move away to a new place with new positive influences. Most do not have that luxury. And BECAUSE Hamilton is a millionaire, you can bet he has a TON of terrible influences around him daily... its also very stressful to be constantly in the public/media eye. If anything, Hamilton's circumstances make it MUCH EASIER to relapse than the average person trying to get clean. Sometimes it takes relapsing 10 times... sometimes it takes one... sometimes it takes completely hitting rock bottom and becoming homeless... but I don't think Hamilton would give two sh*ts if you sympathize with him or not... and its definitely not for your judgmental a** to condemn the man.

    The one time I relapsed... I went immediately to my wife, confessed, and got back into counseling. If I had wanted to hide it, no one else would have ever known... but I knew that would be against my program and I'd have to live with that failure... but I guess you may as well call me a liar as well. I may sound angry, but its because I am... because I HAVE lived it and you're an arrogant prick who knows dick about this issue. Your attitude is EXACTLY what's wrong with a large part of our society and one of the main stumbling blocks to actually helping the problem. You're not an addict, so why do you give a FCK, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    What an ignorant a**hole post. Whether you choose to believe it or not, drug addiction is a legitimate disease and a nasty one. Its not something you can just turn on and off with a switch. When I was in rehab, many of the others there had been in other programs... sometimes 6 or 7 times. With relapses in the double digits. When these people are clear headed and sober, they are some of the most delightful people you would ever come across. No one wants to ever go back to using, but unfortunately, we all go back to the same friends... same family members... same circumstances in life. I was lucky because I was able to completely cut EVERYONE off and move away to a new place with new positive influences. Most do not have that luxury. And BECAUSE Hamilton is a millionaire, you can bet he has a TON of terrible influences around him daily... its also very stressful to be constantly in the public/media eye. If anything, Hamilton's circumstances make it MUCH EASIER to relapse than the average person trying to get clean. Sometimes it takes relapsing 10 times... sometimes it takes one... sometimes it takes completely hitting rock bottom and becoming homeless... but I don't think Hamilton would give two sh*ts if you sympathize with him or not... and its definitely not for your judgmental a** to condemn the man.

    The one time I relapsed... I went immediately to my wife, confessed, and got back into counseling. If I had wanted to hide it, no one else would have ever known... but I knew that would be against my program and I'd have to live with that failure... but I guess you may as well call me a liar as well. I may sound angry, but its because I am... because I HAVE lived it and you're an arrogant prick who knows dick about this issue. Your attitude is EXACTLY what's wrong with a large part of our society and one of the main stumbling blocks to actually helping the problem. You're not an addict, so why do you give a FCK, right?
    Great post... Just know you have support here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsebe10 View Post
    I'm sorry but I just can't sympathize with him. I've seen and experienced first hand what drug addiction can do. His social status makes him readily available to excellent resources to combat this addiction and this is the 2nd or 3rd time he relapsed. He admitted it because he probably got caught. Just imagine the times he's used that no one knows about. Come on dude, you are a millionaire, utilize those top of line resources. Ridiculous and time to grow the FCK up.
    I'm sorry, but money has very little to do with it...other than it being readily available. You have to understand addiction. It never goes away.

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