TUESDAY MINORS FINAL 7/18 ... Four rainouts, one game

[rico43]

TUESDAY SCOREBOARD

CLASS AAA

Lehigh Valley 5, Gwinnett 3

SP: Wisler 7 IP, 6 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 4 K
Cabrera 1 IP, 1 H, 1 ER, 3 BB, 0 K, WP
Minter 0.1 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 1 K
LP: Peterson (BS, 1-2) 1.2 IP, 3 H, 0 ER(2R), 1 BB, 2 K

M. Johnson 1-2, 3B, R, RBI, 2 BB
J. Peterson 2-4, R, SB
Franco 2-4, RBI
Albies 3-5, BB
Acuna 0-3, HBP, 2 K

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CLASS AA

Mississippi, idle

ADVANCED CLASS A

Lakeland @ Florida (34-55), ppd.

CLASS A

Rome, idle

SHORT-SEASON

GCL Braves (9-10) @ GCL Yankees, suspended, first inning

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Greeneville @ Danville (12-13), delayed start

SP: De La Cruz (0-0)

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DSL Braves (11-25) @ DSL Red Sox, ppd.

All Times Eastern

[chipchildress]

touki last ten starts. not so bad, lots of walks.. he just turned 21 so still plenty young.
DATE OPP W L ERA SV IP H ER BB SO
05/18/2017 TAM 0 1 6.92 0 6.0 4 1 1 8
05/25/2017 CLR 0 1 6.80 0 6.0 6 4 3 6
05/31/2017 @CLR 0 0 6.84 0 5.0 10 4 3 4
06/05/2017 STL 0 1 6.32 0 5.2 5 1 5 6
06/12/2017 DBT 0 0 5.77 0 7.0 5 1 3 5
06/19/2017 @TAM 0 1 5.74 0 5.0 7 3 5 5
06/24/2017 FTM 1 0 5.72 0 5.0 2 3 2 6
06/30/2017 @BRD 0 1 5.90 0 5.1 5 5 3 5
07/05/2017 JUP 0 0 5.80 0 6.0 4 3 3 7
07/13/2017 @LAK 0 0 5.46 0 7.0 6 1 3 10
TOTALS 1 5 4.03 0 58.0 54 26 31 62

[smootness]

Yeah, the walks have ticked back up, but this has still been a really positive year overall for him. As his peripherals are normalizing, his ERA is gradually coming down. He's actually pitched a little worse than he did to start the year, but overall a positive step. Next year is huge for him.

[striker42]

Touki is another that I wonder if he might be a better fit long term out of the pen.

[Super]

Touki is another that I wonder if he might be a better fit long term out of the pen.

Of course that's highly possible. But no reason not to have him starting games until it's certain he can't.

[striker42]

Of course that's highly possible. But no reason not to have him starting games until it's certain he can't.

I agree completely. It's not uncommon at all to keep guys you believe will eventually move to the pen in starting rotations in the minors to give them innings to work on their stuff. You keep him in the rotation for that if nothing else. Maybe he takes a big leap forward and shows he can stick in the rotation. Completely possible.

[thethe]

Touki has had a fantastic developmental year. No need to contemplate anything other than starting right now.

[Horsehide Harry]

Touki will probably benefit from better umpiring as he moves up as well. I have to believe his curve probably gets missed a lot.

[Enscheff]

Touki will probably benefit from better umpiring as he moves up as well. I have to believe his curve probably gets missed a lot.

Didn't everyone say the same thing about Newk? Yet here he is, walking just as many at the MLB level as he was in the minors.

Touki is young, but let's stay realisitic...he is wild because he is wild. He needs to improve, not the umps.

[bravesfanMatt]

Didn't everyone say the same thing about Newk? Yet here he is, walking just as many at the MLB level as he was in the minors.

Touki is young, but let's stay realisitic...he is wild because he is wild. He needs to improve, not the umps.

Newk is way less wild so far in the Majors. He has 14 BB and 2 were intentional and at least 2 more were selectively intentional. This is a stat sheet scouting comment at its best. Newk in his short sample size has been more victim of command not control. He has been getting ahead of most hitters.. He has only gotten to 3 balls on 29 hitters. That is not coming up and being wild

[smootness]

Newk is way less wild so far in the Majors. He has 14 BB and 2 were intentional and at least 2 more were selectively intentional. This is a stat sheet scouting comment at its best. Newk in his short sample size has been more victim of command not control. He has been getting ahead of most hitters.. He has only gotten to 3 balls on 29 hitters. That is not coming up and being wild

Well, considering that all of our scouting of Newcomb in the minors was stat sheet scouting...

Newcomb hasn't really been wild, no. But he has walked more than you like. Command or control, it's an issue he needs to continue to fix.

[smootness]

Didn't everyone say the same thing about Newk? Yet here he is, walking just as many at the MLB level as he was in the minors.

Touki is young, but let's stay realisitic...he is wild because he is wild. He needs to improve, not the umps.

Agreed. I don't know where this talk about better umpiring has come from. It makes logical sense that umps in the majors are better, but couldn't that also mean umps in the minors are more inclined to call a ball a strike as well?

We have plenty of history to show that pitchers don't suddenly start walking fewer batters once they hit the majors.

[Horsehide Harry]

Didn't everyone say the same thing about Newk? Yet here he is, walking just as many at the MLB level as he was in the minors.

Touki is young, but let's stay realisitic...he is wild because he is wild. He needs to improve, not the umps.

My thinking is that he supposedly has a 70 curve. I would think minor league umps don't see many 70 curves. If your best pitch gets called better as you move up and the umps get better in calling the pitch then I think it helps a pitcher. I think it is a harder case to make for a guy with a 70 fb because it's a straighter pitch and they see more of them. Of course, that's all supposition on my part.

[Enscheff]

My thinking is that he supposedly has a 70 curve. I would think minor league umps don't see many 70 curves. If your best pitch gets called better as you move up and the umps get better in calling the pitch then I think it helps a pitcher. I think it is a harder case to make for a guy with a 70 fb because it's a straighter pitch and they see more of them. Of course, that's all supposition on my part.

Newk has a 60 curve. I'm going to guess all umps at AA/AAA have seen plenty of those.

[Enscheff]

Albies 3-5, but all singles?

Probably drops him out of the Top 50. Trade him for more pitching.

[jpack1]

Wisler with another solid performance so far thru 6. Hrs earning another shot after the deadline. Probably his final opportunity to impress.

[bravesfanMatt]

I can't watch the wisler game but am listening to it. Sounds like he is being aggressive. Going right after these guys.

[msstate7]

Acuna now 0-3 in SB at AAA. Stealing bases lil tougher now

[bravesfanMatt]

Minter gave up a bad defense double, then a line drive hit after K'ing the first guy. Then gets pulled. I wonder if they have a strict pitch count for him. My stupid tv feed went out, so just listening. But the let Fat Mo walk the bases loaded and then give up tieing run.. Minter was hitting 96.. so I know it is not injury.

[clvclv]

Acuna now 0-3 in SB at AAA. Stealing bases lil tougher now

The dirt at the AAA level is thicker - slows everybody down a step.