The Biden Presidency

[thethe]

And exactly what is your time frame on that? 4 years? 8 years?

What if Trump caves to public pressure on illegal immigration like he did last time?

What if Biden wins?

Depending on deportations to naturally push home prices down is foolish. Not to mention, rural areas of the country don't feel the strain of illegal immigration on our housing like big cities do. How is that supposed to drive down the prices in these areas?

The only things that are meaninfgul and long lasting happen over longer periods of time.

I am confident in Trump winning (as you are) and I am even more confident that the deportation of illegals will happen (since over 60% of population wants it).

[thethe]

“Basically” doing a lot of heavy lifting in this post

Not for someone with a reasonable IQ.

Its very clear what is about to happen in Florida/Texas as migration motivations change the next decade.

But thanks for providing an article that speaks to the risks of building too much.

[sturg33]

The demographic change of reliable Democrat voters will be permanent after Trumps four years.

Permanent? Wow.

He's going to be a much more effective president the second time, I guess

[sturg33]

That Trump doesn't have thethe has his top economic advisor is such a low IQ move. Not giving me confidence

[Carp]

Yeah - More fentanly killing kids and people being less healthy over the last 20 years.

These situtaions are not going to improve.

But life expectancy has improved. It bounced back to 77.5 from 76.4 during the pandemic. It's almost like a deadly virus that swept through the nation became less deadly and we're heading back to where we were before it started. Imagine that.


Also, deporting illegals and controlling the border won't affect fentanyl supply? Isn't that one of the main issues you've been harping on for closing the border?

[acesfull86]

In just a couple of pages we were shown the way on the next few decades of: housing supply stock levels, US life expectancy, interstate migration patterns, population trends, voting demographic shifts, blue collar employment levels…

Is “BL” available or already taken?

[chop2chip]

Not for someone with a reasonable IQ.

Its very clear what is about to happen in Florida/Texas as migration motivations change the next decade.

But thanks for providing an article that speaks to the risks of building too much.

Lower housing prices in Texas and Florida despite massive waves of immigration (illegal and interstate).

Texans and Floridians are quite happy.

Risks indeed.

[Carp]

PS, my wife and I are looking into relocating to FL directly because home new home prices are so much cheaper than they are here. Like 30% cheaper on average. Even land is the same way. I can get an acre of land outside of Jacksonville that is mostly cleared for under 50k. That same land in Chattanooga, TN would be over 100k most likely, and most likely not cleared.

Anyone got any hookups for a good company to work for in FL, let me know.

[chop2chip]

PS, my wife and I are looking into relocating to FL directly because home new home prices are so much cheaper than they are here. Like 30% cheaper on average. Even land is the same way. I can get an acre of land outside of Jacksonville that is mostly cleared for under 50k. That same land in Chattanooga, TN would be over 100k most likely, and most likely not cleared.

Anyone got any hookups for a good company to work for in FL, let me know.

You won’t need a realtor because there should be plenty of vacants for you to choose from!

Non sarcasm, what type of work do you do?

[sturg33]

In just a couple of pages we were shown the way on the next few decades of: housing supply stock levels, US life expectancy, interstate migration patterns, population trends, voting demographic shifts, blue collar employment levels…

Is “BL” available or already taken?

LOL

[thethe]

Lower housing prices in Texas and Florida despite massive waves of immigration (illegal and interstate).

Texans and Floridians are quite happy.

Risks indeed.

Of course they need massive housing increases. Pandemic inspired migration and hubs for illeagls.

Its not going to be pretty when migration motivations change and illegals are deported.

[thethe]

But life expectancy has improved. It bounced back to 77.5 from 76.4 during the pandemic. It's almost like a deadly virus that swept through the nation became less deadly and we're heading back to where we were before it started. Imagine that.


Also, deporting illegals and controlling the border won't affect fentanyl supply? Isn't that one of the main issues you've been harping on for closing the border?

Oh yes - I want life expectancy to go up and removing illegals, controlling the border and creating jobs is the easiest solution.

[Carp]

You won’t need a realtor because there should be plenty of vacants for you to choose from!

Non sarcasm, what type of work do you do?

I work in purchasing, almost exclusively in the manufacturing industry. I do have some experience working for the State of TN and in the trucking industry.as well, though that was over 10 years ago.

[Carp]

Oh yes - I want life expectancy to go up and removing illegals, controlling the border and creating jobs is the easiest solution.

Life expectancy is going up. Even if accounting for the COVID years, life expectancy is higher now than it was 10 years ago.

[chop2chip]

I work in purchasing, almost exclusively in the manufacturing industry. I do have some experience working for the State of TN and in the trucking industry.as well.

My best friend does purchasing for Adobe (he’s based in Utah). Next time I talk to him I’ll ask him if he has any insights on the Florida job market.

[thethe]

Life expectancy is going up. Even if accounting for the COVID years, life expectancy is higher now than it was 10 years ago.

Where are you getting your data?

https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2022/li...ning-in-the-us

In 2021, an American was expected to live 76.1 years—down 2.8 years from the 2014 peak of 78.9 years. This backslide has erased all life expectancy gains since 1996, according to recent data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

I'm trying to find osmething more updated.

[thethe]

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hs...om%20the%20CDC.

April 13, 2023 – U.S. life expectancy has declined to 76.4 years, the shortest it’s been in nearly two decades, according to December data from the CDC. Two experts from Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health—Dean Michelle Williams and Ariadne Labs’ Asaf Bitton—discussed the problem on WP Live, a podcast from the Washington Post.

“The numbers are shocking,” said Williams on the April 10 podcast. She noted that younger people in America are dying at high rates than their counterparts in other high-income countries, and that that the U.S. also has among the highest maternal and infant mortality rates among upper-income countries.

[Carp]

No - Your solution will lead to a massive deflationary event resulting in empty homes.

First we need to correct our population issues and then figure out what our supply/demand looks like.

We can't wait 10 years to MAYBE fix illegal immigration. And if you were honest with yourself, you would know we aren't going to "fix it" in any meaningful way. It's been an issue for decades and it will continue to be an issue 50 years from now regardless of who we elect.

We have issues with the housing market now. We have the means to fix it. This pie in the sky stance on immigration isn't going to fix anything.

[Carp]

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/n...changed%20rank.

"The death rate for the entire U.S. population decreased by 9.2% from 879.7 deaths per 100,000 population in 2021 to 798.8 in 2022. As a result, life expectancy at birth for the U.S. population increased from 76.4 years in 2021 to 77.5 in 2022."


https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/n...3/20231129.htm

"From 2021 to 2022, life expectancy at birth in the U.S. increased by 1.1 years (from 76.4 to 77.5). This did not fully offset the loss of 2.4 years between 2019 and 2021 that resulted mostly from increases in excess deaths due to the COVID-19 pandemic."


https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/...are-countries/

"In 2022, life expectancy partially rebounded in the U.S. while stabilizing in most comparable countries.... the CDC estimates life expectancy at birth in the U.S. increased to 77.5 years"



As you can clearly see, COVID killed a lot of people and the death rate went up and life expectancy went down temporarily. Now that COVID isn't under control, we are rebounding back to prior levels.

[thethe]

We can't wait 10 years to MAYBE fix illegal immigration. And if you were honest with yourself, you would know we aren't going to "fix it" in any meaningful way. It's been an issue for decades and it will continue to be an issue 50 years from now regardless of who we elect.

We have issues with the housing market now. We have the means to fix it. This pie in the sky stance on immigration isn't going to fix anything.

Never before has public sentiment on immigration looked this way. That’s a big deal.