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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    The coverage of Trump was accurate then in your eyes during this time?

    I think you are misremembering the coverage to suit the narrative you want to tell. Most of the reporting was ok specific facts related to the case. I recall no one just covering the story by saying "Trump is guilty of colluding with Putin". Maybe the very far left media that virtually no one watches like Maddow and MSNBC was but overall the coverage was not like you recall it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunrevenge View Post
    I think you are misremembering the coverage to suit the narrative you want to tell. Most of the reporting was ok specific facts related to the case. I recall no one just covering the story by saying "Trump is guilty of colluding with Putin". Maybe the very far left media that virtually no one watches like Maddow and MSNBC was but overall the coverage was not like you recall it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Oh boy.

    Comment from Cajun?

    BL?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
    Oh boy.

    Comment from Cajun?

    BL?
    Its going to be a rough year for them - Might have to check up on Cajun/BL every now nad again that they just don't end it all.

    Cajun has been noticeably less active the past few weeks. Even he sees the writing on the wall.
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    Lets all remember - We were promised collusion with Putin to takeover the US and now we are left with hearing about porn stars who perjure themselves.

    What a bait and switch!
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    It is much easier to establish whats been made up during the Trump term and post than what was actually proven.

    That should be all someone like cajun who "questions the establishment at every turn" (wink wink nudge nudge ) should need to know about who he should support for President.
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    When this all blows up in the lefts face I hope Trump doesn't go soft since he doesn't have to worry about re-election.

    All of these criminals should be behind bars starting with Hussein as he is the ringleader of all of this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    And this is the guy this entire case hinges on. A guy that has changed his story how many times now?

    It's abhorrent that anyone could believe that this case wasn't political hit job. If anyone thinks this case would have been brought up if Trump wasn't running for POTUS, they need their head examined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    And this is the guy this entire case hinges on. A guy that has changed his story how many times now?

    It's abhorrent that anyone could believe that this case wasn't political hit job. If anyone thinks this case would have been brought up if Trump wasn't running for POTUS, they need their head examined.
    This is the same with every single case with the caveat being the documents case because Hussein and his gang are desperate to keep the truth of crossfire hurricane from the world.
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    Man, I hope the jury is paying attention.

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    It’s bad.

    Senseless money spent trying to get the orange guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
    It’s bad.

    Senseless money spent trying to get the orange guy.
    It would interesting to know how much the total package of BS Hoax witchhunts cost the American taxpayer.

    All for nothing....

    Cheered on by many idiots on this forum.
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    Someone needs to check in with Cajun - I worry for his safety
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Someone needs to check in with Cajun - I worry for his safety
    After posting about it 15x a day and trusting his hefty chess skills on every Trump case, you'd think he'd be here assuring us they are legit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Discussion by some experienced lawyers:

    David French: Let’s start with a big-picture question. I have less trial experience than either of you, but this deep into a trial, I always had a sense of the momentum of the case, of who is winning and who is losing. Who is more pleased with the course of the trial so far — the prosecution or the defense?

    Rebecca Roiphe: In my view, the prosecution is happier about how things are going than the defense. They have established the backbone of the case, which is the false records, and they have provided a great deal of circumstantial evidence tying Donald Trump to those records and establishing his intent.

    Ken White: When you ask who is more pleased with the course of the trial, remember that Trump is usually pursuing a public relations and political strategy at the expense of good courtroom strategy. In that sense, I suspect Team Trump is happy that he’s getting lots of airtime to push his narrative that he’s a victim of the elites and that the trial doesn’t seem to have had much of an impact on his polling numbers.

    If you ask me as a trial lawyer, I agree with Rebecca that the D.A. is doing a solid job proving the elements of its case and telling the story in a way likely to grab the jury. So far, they are hitting all the necessary points.

    French: Let’s end with some lightning round questions. First, since the trial has started, in your view has the chance of conviction gone up or down?

    Roiphe: Up.

    White: Up significantly.

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    But this week, prosecutors ran out of diversions.
    They had to take the gamble of putting Cohen on the stand. Yes, Cohen is a convicted felon and a serial liar, but unless he links Trump to the reimbursements before the election, they do not have a case.
    So up Cohen went.
    His direct testimony was fine. But on cross-examination, Todd Blanche - Trump’s lead defense lawyer - destroyed him.
    Over and over, Blanche showed Cohen to be a liar. The New York Times - yes, the Times - wrote:
    "Todd Blanche is demonstrating that Cohen told lies, big and small, over a long period... Jurors might also need to consider a more philosophical question: can a liar sometimes tell the truth?"
    “Sometimes tell the truth?” Wow, the standard for a criminal conviction sure has changed! I thought it was “beyond a reasonable doubt,” silly me.

    But the most devastating moment in the cross-examination came relatively early, just before the lunch recess.
    Cohen had claimed that on Oct. 24, 2016, about two weeks before the election, he called Trump’s bodyguard, Keith Schiller, to talk to Trump and get Trump’s approval for the payments to Daniels.
    Blanche forced Cohen to admit that he had actually called Schiller because Cohen was upset he had been receiving prank phone calls and wanted Schiller’s advice in dealing with them. Cohen then claimed he thought he had also discussed the payment with Trump on the call.
    The problem for Cohen, and the prosecution, is that the entire call lasted only 96 seconds.
    As Anderson Cooper - yes, Anderson Cooper - said on CNN, in recounting the moment:
    It was incredible...lawyers want to build a box around the witness & slam it shut--that's what Todd Blanche did to Cohen...it was an extraordinary cross...Cohen was cornered in...a lie.
    And not just on any testimony, but on the issue at the heart of the case.

    The case is basically over now.
    Blanche will have a couple hours more to cross-examine Cohen Monday morning. Then the prosecution will have to choose whether to try to repair Cohen’s blasted credibility with a short period of additional “redirect” testimony - at the risk of emphasizing how bad Blanche made Cohen look.
    The defense indicated it will have few, if any, witnesses, so the jury could hear closing arguments as early as Tuesday.

    Over 86 percent of Manhattan voters supported Joe Biden in 2020, so Trump will have few if any fans on this jury. An outright acquittal seems very unlikely.
    But will all 12 jurors really convict Trump on the basis of Cohen’s words, after what Blanche just did? If even one refuses, the prosecution will have failed.
    Make no mistake, a hung jury would be a huge win for Trump. The case could not possibly be retried until after Election Day, and anything short of a guilty verdict would give him enormous ammunition to attack the prosecution as a politically motivated effort to distract him from his campaign.
    And that the blowback would be exactly what the prosecutors who brought this joke of an indictment deserve.



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    We'll see how it goes with the jury. But the prosecution has been aware of Cohen's issues as a witness and has taken care to corroborate his testimony as much as possible with documentation and testimony from other witnesses. I don't think the case turns on Cohen's credibility as a witness. Hicks, Pecker and Davidson laid out the case pretty thoroughly.

    I do think this is the one case among the four indictments where a reasonable person could believe there is selective prosecution due to the nature of the crimes, somewhat convoluted legal theory and time lapse. The case itself seems pretty solid to me. But there is room to wonder if it would have been brought to trial against someone else.
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    It would seem the prosecutors would want the testimony of Keith Schiller to corroborate Cohen's testimony. But he's never been contacted about testifying. How convenient.

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