More apeaceful Protesting in Baltimore

[jpx7]

Apparently "criminal" is too harsh of a characterization.

What's for goose be good for gander—and yet the police committing criminal violations don't like the "criminal" characterization any more than the murdered or protesting citizens.

[bravesnumberone]

I think there's a big difference between saying "thug-like behavior" and branding everyone as "thugs" in one swoop. Yea if you steal liquor bottles and burn someone's business who did nothing wrong, you're a piece of crap. But just throwing out "thugs" seems like a convenient way to ignore the bigger problems and issues at hand here.

[Hawk]

What's for goose be good for gander—and yet the police committing criminal violations don't like the "criminal" characterization any more than the murdered or protesting citizens.

This is all too true. The notion that police are above the laws they are tasked to uphold is all too often accepted as a necessary evil when it should be something we actively seek to eradicate.

I think this nationwide push to require officers to wear body cams is a step in the right direction.

[Carp]

I've agreed with this. Can't we treat these as two separate decisions though that are both wrong?

I don't think anyone has said otherwise. Of course the guy was wrong to run. But the point is, him running should have nothing to do with whether or not he is alive or not. So the fact that he ran is irrelevant to the discussion.

[Krgrecw]

I wouldn't expect a self-described "actual racist" to understand the nuances of coded language.

Obama didn't backtrack from his comments from calling these people thugs.

The people that rioted and looted are 'thugs' You can say that I am implying a different word than thug but obamas doing it too.

[Carp]

Again, this is not blaming the victim. Its acknowledging the victim did something wrong here.

Saying things like he "brought it upon himself" is definitely placing blame on the victim.

[jpx7]

I'm like an alcoholic extolling the virtues of drinking.

So. Many. Virtues.

[cajunrevenge]

This is all too true. The notion that police are above the laws they are tasked to uphold is all too often accepted as a necessary evil when it should be something we actively seek to eradicate.

I think this nationwide push to require officers to wear body cams is a step in the right direction.

The police unions fighting against body cameras tells us all we need to know about how corrupt they are. Its near impossible to hold police accountable without video evidence so they fight it. This is why I say that the idea of good cops is a fallacy, the good ones willingly turn a blind eye to the bad cops makes them part of the problem. I think the FBI should be sending people undercover into police stations just like they would any other criminal organization. If they are innocent they have nothing to hide right? Or does that only apply to non-cops? And if any arrests need to be made of Cops make sure and raid their house with a SWAT team at 3 am and shoot anything that moves like they do to people.



They should make a video game of whats its really like to be a cop. Like shooting someone, then checking to make sure theres no surveillance cameras before lying in the police report to justify the shooting. Getting a dog to fake alert so you can search a car, then if you dont find anything you have the option to plant drugs. You get bonus points for arresting people trying to film you too.

[thethe]

I don't think anyone has said otherwise. Of course the guy was wrong to run. But the point is, him running should have nothing to do with whether or not he is alive or not. So the fact that he ran is irrelevant to the discussion.

Its very relevant to the discussion because the less often police are put in precarious spots the less often they will have a chanc eto show how stupid many of them are.

[AerchAngel]

Screw this thread, the mother that popped her kid upside the head is the real hero. My mom was like, yep, I would have done the same thing. This is the reason why the school wants her to return to instill discipline into kids as they are fed up with it. Kids nowadays have no respect for any authority, mouth off to both teachers and parents in front of principal and if they expel them, the board will just reinstate them. What is more alarming that more than 50% of the rioters were teenagers? Kids that should be in school. Where are the other parents?

[thethe]

Screw this thread, the mother that popped her kid upside the head is the real hero. My mom was like, yep, I would have done the same thing. This is the reason why the school wants her to return to instill discipline into kids as they are fed up with it. Kids nowadays have no respect for any authority, mouth off to both teachers and parents in front of principal and if they expel them, the board will just reinstate them. What is more alarming that more than 50% of the rioters were teenagers? Kids that should be in school. Where are the other parents?

The recurring cycle of poverty and crime is continued by poor decisions. Take some ownership of your own screw ups and better your lives.

[thethe]

Saying things like he "brought it upon himself" is definitely placing blame on the victim.

And completely ignoring the victim did something wrong doesn't solve this problem either.

[gilesfan]

Eh. Sorry, I don't think non-violent offenders should be in jail. legalize and tax it.

Legalizing heroin sounds like a fantastic idea.

[sturg33]

Legalizing heroin sounds like a fantastic idea.

Agreed

[gilesfan]

John Angelos (Orioles COO):

Yes, he's an advocate for Baltimore. What do you expect him to say?

[gilesfan]

friend who is a lawyer wrote this recently:

"Of all the police-related killings of citizens recently, only ‪#‎MichaelBrown‬'s falls within the purview of a justified action, in that the allegations are and were that the officer met force with force. Whether you believe this to be true is a completely different story, and I've written for The 11th Hour on how affirmative defenses should be raised in public trials, not in backroom grand jury proceedings, so the public can evaluate the candor of the accused.
Make no mistake: ‪#‎FreddieGray‬, ‪#‎EricGarner‬, ‪#‎WalterScott‬, and others had the right to have a judge and jury determine their guilt and their sentences. Regardless of their transgressions, past, present, or ongoing, none of them committed any offense for which the state had the authority to take their lives. So, while conservative pundits go on their tirades defaming the dead, remember they died for probationary offenses, not for capital offenses."

We do not have the facts on Freddie Gray so I wouldn't include him.

Putting an officers life in jeopardy is a capital offense.

[sturg33]

We do not have the facts on Freddie Gray so I wouldn't include him.

Putting an officers life in jeopardy is a capital offense.

I just heard on CNBC in the background, that that it is being classified as a murder, and that the officers didn't have cause to arrest Gray, and that Gray requested medical help twice.

Doesn't sound good

[zitothebrave]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-10217973.html

[gilesfan]

What was he arrested for?

[Hawk]

Agreed

Brilliant.