Hopefully by 1/1/17 the good free agents next year won't be signed by then (Winter Meetings).
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http://www.baseball-reference.com/te...salaries.shtml
according to baseball-reference, we were right around $102m including projected arb raises/guaranteed contracts before this maybin deal. I saw somewhere that this deal saves us about $6mil in salary. so we would be roughly $96mil including arb money and guaranteed contracts.
Based on that information, where is everyone getting the information saying we have $25m to $30m to spend?
Because that website's numbers don't add up. Here is the actual roster:
AJP $3.0
Freeman $12.0
Peterson $0.5
Garcia $0.5
Aybar $6.0
Markakis $11.0
Bourn $14.0
Olivera $4.0
Swisher $15.0
CB $0.5
Toscano $1.0
Castro $0.5
Bench5 $0.0
Miller $4.9
Teheran $3.3
Wisler $0.5
SP4 $0.0
SP5 $0.0
Grilli $3.5
Viz $1.1
Shae $0.5
Krol $0.5
BP5 $0.0
BP6 $0.0
BP7 $0.0
total $82.3
Take away the $10M the Indians sent over for Bourn and Swisher, add in the few million the Braves gave the Tigers for Maybin, and the payroll is right around $75M, which jives pretty well with the ~$30M figure being tossed around. The current holes are one bench slot, 2 SPs, and a few BP guys.
I would expect about $10M-$12M to go towards a real starter for 3B or LF (think Freese or Parra), $10-$12M to go towards a MOR pitcher (think Lackey or Estrada), and $5M-$10M to go towards the BP (think Grilli and JJ v2.0). Pretty much the plan all along.
Last edited by Enscheff; 11-20-2015 at 06:28 PM.
Got us at ~$88,540,000 including Toscano and the $1,500,000 we're sending the Tigers to help pay Cam (and no Minor in that figure). Could be $10 million lower if they're applying the money sent by Cleveland to this year's budget - haven't seen anyone confirm whether they applied any of it to last season's budget.
Last edited by clvclv; 11-20-2015 at 06:58 PM.
Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...
Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?
Might be the worst 90 million dollar team ever constructed.
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Agree Jeffrey. That team cost 90 million? Wow. Worst 90 million ever spent.
I think using the word "constructed" is overselling the effort that went into this team.
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Looks like bref isn't accounting for cash considerations sent to us by Dodgers and Indians. So take off 15 mil or so from that 96 million. We've probably got 20 million or so available for this season. Actually looks like Dodgers cash is there, but not Indians
Last edited by weso1; 11-21-2015 at 08:56 AM.
thank you weso1!
Constructing a "bad" team with a 100M budget can be a good strategy. The idea would be to use the 100M to take on bad contracts accompanied by more useful assets. We did that with the Toussaint deal and to some extent with the Bourn/Swisher deal. Some of the details of recent deals have not been consistent with this theme. For example getting some money back in the Simmons deal. Why not accept paying Aybar's higher salary and getting more valuable prospects in return.
I understand that. I just remember when JS was barely able to construct our team at $85 million when AOL cut payroll. Now we're at around 90 million with a team that might make 3rd place in the division if lucky. Just goes to show how far the stinky economics of baseball have come.
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