Dansby Swanson in the Futures Game.
Dansby Swanson in the Futures Game.
bravos4evr (06-29-2016), Garmel (06-28-2016), The Chosen One (06-28-2016)
Not trying to be Debbie Downer just curious on people's thoughts. If our system is so dominate why are our minor league records so poor? Serious question, just wondering.
I think we have some spotty bullpens in the minors, and not a ton of position-player depth, but I think the losing records have more to do with having prospects who are good enough to be playing while young for their level (perhaps taking some lumps in the process) and an emphasis on instruction/development (over piling up innings/wins) w/r/t young arms.
3Deans (06-28-2016), FreemanFan (06-28-2016)
dak (06-28-2016)
Thanks I understand that this is the most individual team sport there is, but I just figured we would be winning more games but that makes sense.
I did some research on this and there is zero correlation between farm system rankings and minor league team results. Think of it like this:
Let's say you have a great and deep farm system ranked in the top 3. That's still only 30 prospects, but those 30 guys are spread between 6 or 7 teams and 200+ players. So you may only have 3-4 on the upper level teams at any time and 2 of them might be starting pitchers who only contribute every 5 games. The rest of the team is org depth and journeymen types. Basically, winning in the minor leagues is more about how good your "never going to MLB" players are rather than the quality of your prospects.
"I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy"- Tom Waits
Garmel (06-28-2016)
I think we need to stop penciling in Gutierrez on our top prospect lists. Just about every report coming out at this point suggests that he has dropped off significantly compared to his peers and that the tools aren't great at this point. I think Cumberland and Herbert both should be easily ahead of him based on what is out there.
One name you didn't mention that I still am intrigued with is Leudys Baez. I don't think he'll be top 30, but I also think he has a chance to jump up quickly.
Last edited by mqt; 06-28-2016 at 05:06 PM.
Riley 2-3 this afternoon with a triple. Kid is starting to heat up.
Soroka is flat dealing too.
Tapate50 (06-28-2016)
Imo, Soroka is now our best pitching prospect. Dominating in a full-season league at 18.
Tapate50 (06-28-2016), The Chosen One (06-28-2016)
Soroka threw a CG in game one. They only play seven-inning games during a DH.
7 IP, 2 H, 1 ER/R, 1 BB, 7 K. Gave up a solo homer, his first homer allowed in over 100 innings as a pro.
bravos4evr (06-28-2016)
How would you feel if you are 20 games under 500 and facing Soroka and Fried in a seven inning double hitter.
The Chosen One (06-28-2016)
Why isn't Fried pitching? An hour before the game he was listed as the starter.