jpx7 (08-28-2017)
"For all his tattooings he was on the whole a clean, comely looking cannibal."
I'm suspicious of that meeting we didn't get to see conclude between him and Cersei. He was acting really strange after that. Watch him when he walks back out to the meeting grounds and in the war room.
He knows that the baby is the only chance the Lannister line has of continuing, and we didn't see any of the conversation after he learned that bit of information.
I wouldn't think they get blindsided by Euron and the Golden Company coming in... Surely Tyrion wouldn't think his sister is being true.
Also- CY if Tyrion had a child he could continue the line himself? No?
Ivermectin Man
Yea, I think there's clearly something there—and it may or may not connect with his corner-creeping at the end of the episode—but it's difficult to surmise what it might be (and, especially, how it might connect). Moreover, given Cersei's unceremonious dismissal of Jaime (and I think she ironically came closer to ordering his execution than Tyrion's), Jaime-less machinations with Tyrion strain credulity. So, there seems like there's a potential bombshell there, but I'd imagine (unlike Jon's true parentage) it's out of left-field and not (yet) been lampshaded.
Side note: Is Tyrion sterile? That may be a biographical detail I missed or forgot; but, if not, Cersei's child is not necessarily the only chance of prolonging the Lannister line—and certainly they married him off to Sansa in the hopes of creating a power-consolidation (which usually requires progeny) I still doubt that his virility has anything to do with Khaleesi (or probably even Sansa, at this point, for that matter), but it seems like it's nevertheless relevant when discussing a Lannister dead-end.
"For all his tattooings he was on the whole a clean, comely looking cannibal."
"For all his tattooings he was on the whole a clean, comely looking cannibal."
I'm not sure it would really be in-character for him there to actually be something there (regarding a deal between him and Cersei). But, I wouldn't put it past the writers at this point. They seem more interested in plot twists and fan service than realistic character development and well-developed plot threads. It should be interesting though.
Last edited by CyYoung31; 08-28-2017 at 02:07 PM.
I definitely agree, which is why I said it would strain credulity. I think it's much more likely that what we missed was some key detail, rather the formations of a deal—though, as you've said, some of the writing choices have strained credulity recently, so anything's possible.
And on that credulity note, I'm fine with little things like the Gendry Sprint—they weren't supposed to be too far from Eastwatch, anyways. It's more things like Jaime only now deciding to bail on Cersei, when it hasn't been clear for a full season—even before he knew about the pregnancy—why he was still hanging around King's Landing. Or the Stark children's ploy, which seems like it could've been effected a couple episodes ago, saving us the ham-fisted bait-and-switch of the sisters' (presumably staged) disagreements and threats. In both cases (along with Sam conveniently showing up to make Bran understand it's not as simple as Snow-to-Sand), it just seems like the show was obsessed with "saving" things for the season finale, when they used to be entirely comfortable dropping big news and events mid-season, or at least episode 9.
"For all his tattooings he was on the whole a clean, comely looking cannibal."
Any thoughts on why Lyanna Stark broke her oath of betrothal to Robert to marry Rhaegar?
If it was simply a matter of love then that was rather selfious of her considering what it did to the realm.
bravesnumberone (08-28-2017)
It seems the current batch of Starks are much better people than their predecessors (aside from Ned, though he wasn't very smart).
My only theory is that it was an arranged marriage with Robert, and akin to Robb Stark, she was like, "**** that." And it screwed everyone.
Dalyn (08-29-2017)
But that's sort of a recurring theme in the narrative—pursuing real love versus not screwing everyone / everything up—so it's probably a pretty good theory.
And it is, moreover, a tension could that potentially bubble up at the coming Sansa/Tyrion reunion—certainly a consummated Stark/Lannister marriage would be strategically helpful to both houses, if Tyrion hopes to reclaim his house from his mad sister—as well as illuminate whatever windfall there is from that coupling of everyone's favorite sexy aunt and nephew.
"For all his tattooings he was on the whole a clean, comely looking cannibal."
The Olivera trade was still worse than the dragon for a white walker trade.
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best line:
"Seems every bad idea has some Lannister c.unt behind it."
"For there is always light, if only we are brave enough to see it. If only we are brave enough to be it." Amanda Gorman
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