The thing to keep in mind with Riley is power hitters rarely ever make any impact in the majors until about 23 years old. If Riley is ready at 21 (turns 21 in April) he’d be an elite superstar and I don’t think he’s in that category.
The thing to keep in mind with Riley is power hitters rarely ever make any impact in the majors until about 23 years old. If Riley is ready at 21 (turns 21 in April) he’d be an elite superstar and I don’t think he’s in that category.
jpx7 (01-15-2018)
Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...
Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?
Evad (01-15-2018)
drewdat (01-16-2018)
The last time you name dropped Holland he was getting ready to sign with the Rox according to you.
Just stop. You get the answers they give all annoying fans that approach them at the hardware store.
Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...
Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?
If the best offer for JD Martinez, who had an unbelievable year, is 5\100, he could represent the BEST value for LF. I'd go 6\125 backloaded a bit and get him in here this season for a run next year. The FA mkt being slow could help represent a bargain for some folks and it would keep us from 30M+ for other FA's next season.
He doesn't want to play 1B in Boston, and they currently have the top offer per rotoworld.
Ivermectin Man
Tapate50 (01-17-2018)
FG agrees that now might be a good time for the Braves to make some moves: https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-...-could-be-now/
The money quote is at the end, "A lot of teams appear to be sitting this offseason out. The Braves shouldn’t be one of them."
While his "trade for Yelich, sign Mous to a back loaded contract" thesis is not extremely likely to transpire, the overall logic is sound.
The Braves could sign Cain and Frazier to back loaded contracts. Frazier is projected for 2.5 wins, while Cain is projected for 3+ wins. If the Braves are a 77 win team now, adding ~5 wins gets them to 82...with upside for more.
So the decision comes down to this series of questions:
- Should the Braves be willing to give up on spending big next offseason to make a push for fringe WC contention this offseason?
- Are there any OFers available next offseason who are better than what Cain/Yelich project to be in 2019?
- Would it make any sense at all to upgrade the OF this year without also upgrading 3B?
- Are there any 3B available next offseason who are better than what Frazier/Mous project to be in 2019?
- Do the Braves want to forgo this chance to give Camargo a look, and potentially block Riley?
Overall, how much of a discount is needed for it to make sense for the Braves to spend now rather than next offseason? 10%? 20%? No amount makes it worthwhile before other teams jump in?
Last edited by Enscheff; 01-18-2018 at 01:00 PM.
If you acquire a 3B and OF this offseason there is no need to worry about next offseason as you'd be set everywhere except Catcher for thenext 3 years. You can decide between going after Grandal or resigning Flowers.
Since this talk of the "Big offseason of 2019" years ago I've thought it a bad idea for anyone outside of the Dodgers, Yankees, and other big boys to even care about. There's going to be a lot of money thrown around and mid market teams cannot get swept up in it. Donaldson would be great, but he'll be 33. Blackmon could be great, but he'll be 32 and the Colorado effect has to be considered. Pollock could be ideal, but he cannot make it through a full season.
comes down to cost...if the price drops enough we should be looking at guys like Frazier, Moose and Yelich.
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
I could see the Braves making the big trade for Yelich and signing Moustakas.
Inciarte CF
Albies 2B
Yelich LF
Freeman 1B
Moose 3B
Acuna RF
Swanson SS
Flowers/Suzuki C
btw that fourth year of Muk's contract is turning out to be something that is making a difference...little details like that add up
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
I don’t care about money discount. I do care about years. If the braves were looking at a guy wanting a 5 year deal and instead get a three or four year deal with options you have to look
The draft pick loss on top of the third round loss may stop us on mouse etc.
If you love Riley he could be a lf if needed
We have to be realistic about next years class. Have to figure out how to clear the 40 man usefully of guys with value but not a lot of value. See Ruiz, Simms, etc.
Getting a deal this year might be better than market next year.
If you could get Cain and moose on 3 year deals with option years then you have to beg liberty for the Santana loan
This article from an Indians fan makes the case that Cain could age well as he's lost little speed and if he increases his launch angle could increase his power as he ages.
https://www.letsgotribe.com/2018/1/1...n-lorenzo-cain
I still have a hard time thinking we're going to lose another pick in AA's first season to draft, but it's easy to like Cain especially if AA is dead set on a defense oriented roster as he proclaims.