jpx7 (02-06-2018)
"Well, you’ll learn soon enough that this was a massive red wave landslide." - thethe on the 2020 election that trump lost bigly
“I can’t fix my life, but I can fix the world.” - sturg
jpx7 (02-06-2018)
Does wOBA have the highest r^2 value?
Natural Immunity Croc
i really don't understand the need to split hairs.
of course the market suppressed his overall money.
but if he likely wouldn't have signed for 2/17 anywhere besides NY, then he was willing to take a discount to stay there. we don't know if he turned down offers for 2/20 or what have you. but his known, strong preference to stay in NY allowed the NY teams to undercut his already down value. lordy!
"Well, you’ll learn soon enough that this was a massive red wave landslide." - thethe on the 2020 election that trump lost bigly
“I can’t fix my life, but I can fix the world.” - sturg
Knucksie (02-06-2018)
Sure. I think the initial assertion that AA or anyone else from the OP dropped the ball but not signing Frazier to such a deal is off base. That type of deal wasn't available to most teams. However I think if a team offered more then he would of signed somewhere else. In either case I don't think the Braves have the money to even offer him what the Mets did.
Miggle
3:30 What would Moustakas’ price have to fall to in order to get the Braves to bite?
Steve Adams
3:31 Well they just let Frazier go to a division rival for $17MM -- so probably even less than that. I don't see it.
It's silly to say the Braves won't sign Mous unless his cost drops to that of Frazier (he represents better value even at a higher contract value), but Mr. Adams agrees with the general premise that the Braves can't afford much.
Last edited by Enscheff; 02-06-2018 at 05:24 PM.
Whatever man... I'm super glad we didn't waste money on Frazier. There is nothing attractive out there we need man. You're just wanting to make a deal to make a deal... simply because you're bored. That's terrible business when there's not much chance to compete and we can't even get rid of Markakis to actually upgrade. If we can't compete why not play Camargo for at least half a year to see what we have? Just so you won't be bored?
TomahawkCult (02-07-2018)
Past off-seasons the front office has done stuff just to generate buzz...glad we are not doing that anymore
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Just like all the why didn't we sign Weiters talk went away, I think all the why didn't we sign Frazier or Mous chatter will go away when Camargo provides us a better value. Actually I just want Camargo out there so I can see him throw. If I were manager I might stick him out in RF sometimes, also just to see him throw.
I like Frazier a whole lot. BUT given our window to start succeeding odds are he would be near the end of his contract at that point, and who really cares?
If we were to have made a move for Frazier it would have 2 years ago via trade when we witnessed one of the players we gave the Dodgers used as a key part in that particular trade. THen sign him to a relatively team friendly deal and that's the only way you do it.
I'd rather make a play on Donaldson, maybe if Toronto is looking to sell offer some small parts for him and then work on extending him for 3 years or so. Like Frazier he's got age and declining health as risks, but unlike Frazier he's a difference maker. He isn't just a glove with some pop, he's a glove with a whole lot of pop and the perfect pairing for Freeman.
Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg