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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Maybe both are just really good?

    That would be a desirable outcome.
    That’s my whole thing, too.
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    They both have BB/9's that are too high, the difference is, while I think the head games are a little overrated, Newcomb seems to have a better head on his shoulders than Foltynewicz, and there's something else that causes his control to be shaky, not sure what, but it seems mechanical, given that he often seems like he's missing at the same place.

    Their starts vs Boston are going to be interesting. Given the way they've went and Boston's very likely a more patient team, while they could pitch well (in their patented 5-6 innings), they could very well BOTH end up having a 4 IP 3 H 3-4 ER 4-5 BB type start with 4-6 Ks.
    Aggression with prospects is fine, but being stupid is not. There should be a way to find a happy medium between a Pirates like idea of being overly cautious with prospects and going stupidly fast with prospects.

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    Newk and Folty are 11th and 17th respectively in the NL in fWAR.

    Also 10 of the top 17 pitchers in the NL in fWAR are in the East

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Newk and Folty are 11th and 17th respectively in the NL in fWAR.

    Also 10 of the top 17 pitchers in the NL in fWAR are in the East
    Pretty impressive for newcomb in particularly considering he only has 28 career starts. Bb rate at 4.10... if it gets in the 3s, watch out

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    newc and folty are both doing great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Pretty impressive for newcomb in particularly considering he only has 28 career starts. Bb rate at 4.10... if it gets in the 3s, watch out
    yeah, he becomes kershaw. can't wait to watch folty and newc progress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Newk and Folty are 11th and 17th respectively in the NL in fWAR.

    Also 10 of the top 17 pitchers in the NL in fWAR are in the East
    Lol there’s only like 40 qualified SPs in the NL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Lol there’s only like 40 qualified SPs in the NL.
    Taking the top 3 pitchers from each nl team is 45 pitchers. Newcomb being 11th is impressive

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    As the world turns so do the days of Folty and Newk

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    As the world turns so do the days of Folty and Newk
    Macdonald Carey's voice?

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    Why not both?

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    WE need a Soroka/Fried debate.

    Right now on our staff I have Folty 1a/Newc 1b, then Gohara, --------------------------------------------------- Teheran -------------------------------------------------------------- McCarthy

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    Quote Originally Posted by AerchAngel View Post
    WE need a Soroka/Fried debate.

    Right now on our staff I have Folty 1a/Newc 1b, then Gohara, --------------------------------------------------- Teheran -------------------------------------------------------------- McCarthy
    I think gohara may end being the best actually

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Lol there’s only like 40 qualified SPs in the NL.
    Being able to stay healthy/pitch innings has it's value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    That’s my whole thing, too.
    Amen, amen

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    this one is starting to tilt in a particular direction
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    this one is starting to tilt in a particular direction
    I am fine with keeping them both for the time being.

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    Looks like the light has just turned on for Folty over the last couple months.... he very well could be making the transition to legit ace. He looks filthy.

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    If I remember right scherzer started to dominate at a even later age than Folty. It’s possible.

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    i just want to say that trying to trade for an ace is a stupid idea...and the apparent desire to do so was one of the things that concerned me the most about the Hartcoppy regime
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