Govt. Shutdown

[zitothebrave]

Boehner already letting off Obamacare and talking entitlement reform.

I have a pretty simple entitlement reform. Remove (or raise) payroll tax caps. It's something that will only effect a small portion of the population (as it's only payroll and capped at 100K) that small increase (which hasn't changed in years and more people are exempt than originally) would easily make SS viable through the boomers as long as government isn't irresponsible with the money.

[weso1]

Boehner already letting off Obamacare and talking entitlement reform.

I have a pretty simple entitlement reform. Remove (or raise) payroll tax caps. It's something that will only effect a small portion of the population (as it's only payroll and capped at 100K) that small increase (which hasn't changed in years and more people are exempt than originally) would easily make SS viable through the boomers as long as government isn't irresponsible with the money.

My daughter's chalk drawing will stay on our driveway through 2015 as long as it doesn't rain before then.

[The Chosen One]

My daughter's chalk drawing will stay on our driveway through 2015 as long as it doesn't rain before then.

You're such an awesome dad that you'd probably restore it with new chalk if it started fading.

[The Chosen One]

[CK86]

Both sides come out of this looking like children.

[yeezus]

"Hey, let me burn your house down."
"Uh..no."
"Ok, how about just the couches and tables?"
"No."
"At least let me blow up your car."
"No!"
"You're not comprimising!!!"

[zitothebrave]

Both sides come out of this looking like children.

As someone who hates both parties the repubs are looking much worse and lost their leverage they could have gained in the debt ceiling. They could have said we'd pass the budget with some concessions for the debt ceiling. But they bet the house on the budget and no matter what happens they will look bad.

[57Brave]

Maybe this isn't about "both parties" or at least the "both parties we are used to talking about
http://www.salon.com/2013/10/09/righ...e_already_won/
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Thanks to a confluence of three events, the S-word – secession – is once again in the air. In Washington, new questions are emerging about whether the United States can function as a unified nation after a partial government shutdown was engineered by a largely regional party – one whose home territory looks eerily similar to the Confederacy. Adding to the questions about the viability of the post-Civil War union is the fact that the shutdown has been orchestrated by a Texas legislator whose state party stalwarts – including its governor – seem to support secession, to the point of taking concrete legislative steps to prepare for independence. On top of all that, in states across the country, incipient secession movements have sprung up only a few months after secession petitions flooded the White House website.

[CK86]

"Don't screw it up, okay? Don't screw it up."

[cajunrevenge]

I agree with Secession only if Libertarians can get a small state or two of our own. We could probably sustain the whole economy just by making drugs legal and then selling them to the Democrat and Republican countries. The fact that it would still be illegal in those countries would only drive the price up and make us richer.

[CK86]

Isn't like 86% of the government still open and operating? Is it really a shutdown with only 14% not working?

[Tapate50]

Boy, Dems have really pizzed of DC reps.

[57Brave]

Isn't like 86% of the government still open and operating? Is it really a shutdown with only 14% not working?

How many of those 86% are furloughed and working without pay with the threat of jail if they don't?

[57Brave]

Boy, Dems have really pizzed of DC reps.

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[cajunrevenge]

Isn't like 86% of the government still open and operating? Is it really a shutdown with only 14% not working?

The reason they are so scared is because the longer this goes on the more people will realize that we will be just fine with the government "shutdown".

You can't claim to be shut down but still be able to wage multiple wars.

[CK86]

I've gone 10 days without the 14% of the government and not felt anything different. Perhaps that says something about the size of the government.

But hey, at least those WW2 vets got shown whose the boss by Obama and the Dems! They showed us!

[Tapate50]

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Quite the exchange with DC locals and Reid

[weso1]

So the furloughed workers are gauranteed back pay thanks to the House unless of course Reid and Obama are really that evil. So for those who were responsible and created a nest egg it's like having a nice long vacation. I think some are getting unemployment as well. Really not a bad gig at all for some folks.

Those who weren't responsible... Well they learned a valuable lesson. Make sure you have a nice little nest egg... not too big though.

[57Brave]

this was all about teaching people how to manage their money?
I'm confused -- I thought it was about defunding and repealing Obamacare

I think there are only like, 15 people left in the universe that think this shutdown is / was a good idea. My problem is, they all seem to be Braves fans

[Tapate50]

If that's your biggest problem, you sir are living the high life. Then again most in RI are already.