The rate of myocardits from the vaccine is actually significantly lower than the death rate for Covid for people in their 30's.
The rate for myocarditis for Moderna is about 1 in 24,000. There have been a little less than 15,000 covid deaths of people in their 30's. I'll drop that to 10,000 just to eliminate the risk of overcounting. For the risk of death to equal the risk of myocarditis, you'd need there to have been 240,000,000 covid infections in the US among people in their 30's. There are about 45 million Americans in their 30s.
So if 10,000 Americans in their 30's died of Covid, for the risk of death of Covid to equal the risk of myocarditis from Moderna, you'd need every American in their 30's to have had about 5 covid infections.
So you're actually far more likely to die of Covid if you're in your 30's than you are to develop myocardits.
Oh, and the vast majority of mycarditis cases caused by the vaccine are mild.
https://www.reuters.com/business/hea...dy-2021-12-17/
Danish study. The rest is just statistics easily available online.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7035e5.htm
Interestingly, myocarditis hits about 150 covid patients per 100,000 (compared to 9/100,000 in the general population). And this is among unvaccinated individuals. They eliminated anyone with a vaccine from the study so as to eliminate any bias from vaccine related myocarditis.
So the risk of myocarditis from getting covid > risk of myocarditis from getting the vaccine.
Hey - When has the CDC released incorrect or misleading information lately?
But you're using the blended rate for all age groups:
In this study, the association between COVID-19 and myocarditis was lowest for persons aged 25–39 years and higher among younger (<16 years) and older (≥50 years) age groups, a pattern that has not been previously described in age-stratified analyses and that warrants further investigation. This finding might be partially explained by age-related differences in COVID-19 case ascertainment, because younger adults with less severe disease might be less likely than older adults to have a health care encounter with a COVID-19 diagnosis captured within PHD-SR. This age-related differential misclassification (underascertainment) of COVID-19 status might bias risk differences and risk ratios toward the null more for younger adults and could partially explain the observed age-related association.
Natural Immunity Croc
But lets also remember Strikers position that they know exactly what these experimental gene therapy treatments would do in the human body.
WE were told it would prevent spread. We were told you wouldn't get sick and that you wouldn't die.
How does that look now as we move on to a 4th shot?
Natural Immunity Croc
The young male stuff was based on an Israeli study.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2110737
It found incidences of myocarditis after the vaccine to be 2.3 cases per 100,000. There were 54 cases identified of the more than 2.5 million doses given.
So other studies put the incident rate in the same (or even lesser) neighborhood.
The myocarditis risk is minimal. European nations recommended young men take the Pfizer vaccine instead of the Moderna vaccine because, as you note, they are likely at higher risk of the complication and Pfizer is an equally available vaccine that has lower risk of this side effect.
it is a religion so there is no point where they stop
"I can't fix my life, but I can fix the world" said the socialist
RADICAL idea... sounds like a bunch of pro-covid traitors to me!
"I can't fix my life, but I can fix the world" said the socialist
No one was ever told it would prevent spread, that they wouldn't get sick, or that they wouldn't die. No one with an ounce of science education would ever speak in such absolutes. We were told it would limit spread, greatly reduce the risk of infection, and greatly reduce the risk of death. And the vaccines did all of those against Alpha, the strain they were designed to combat.
They also provided very good protection against Delta and are are still providing protection against Omicron, especially severe disease.
As for the number of shots, the one thing we were never guaranteed was the duration of immunity. How long your body will be immune to something is very difficult for scientists to predict. We still don't know how long immunity lasts from prior infections.
I actually see the end of the pandemic at this point. Omicron is a huge step in the right direction. As our immune systems become more accustomed to this virus and as it loses fitness with mutations (as viruses tend to do, there's actually pressure on them to cause less severe disease) it will become a far less severe endemic disease. Likely a seasonal flu though possibly just a bad cold. As people stop seeing friends and family getting put in the hospital and dying from covid, the fear will recede.
Even if there are people crying wolf out there, it can only be cried for so long before experience teaches people not to fear it. There wont be any clear line where the pandemic ended. No victory accomplished. Just a gradual fading into normal life.
The Chosen One (01-06-2022)