GDT Thurs, 7/5 vs Brewers

[jpack1]

[QUOTE=msstate7;513971]

You didn't ask me, but seems odd you guys single out the 8-hole hitter on a night the braves have 3 hits total. Yeah, all Swanson's fault...

Swanson definitely needs to hit better though

Certainly I’m not talking about 1 night. Braves are just getting beat tonight. But Swanson’s bat has been dead since April. And it’s a problem going forward.

[TheBravos]

Lol

As long as he plays good D...I’m ok with him. It really is crazy that he was a #1 pick. I still keep thinking he will “click” and be a decent hitter...not great...just decent.

[sturg33]

Winkler definitely been less dominant the last month... need bullpen help

[msstate7]

The Brewers are a good team. So are the Yanks

Yeah, fo sho.

Nats are probably as good as both when right. I think the Phillies add some big pieces to close the gap considerably or all together

[TheBravos]

Last 11 winkler appearances...
9.1 ip 13 h 7 er 4 bb 9 k

His high leverage days may be behind him

Well when you put it that way...

Let’s just say he’s slumping lol.

[sturg33]

Yeah, fo sho.

Nats are probably as good as both when right. I think the Phillies add some big pieces to close the gap considerably or all together

I still don't trust our SP... and yet, I don't want to use resources on acquiring considering we have so many young options

[nsacpi]

I still don't trust our SP... and yet, I don't want to use resources on acquiring considering we have so many young options

we have a lot of options...just need a couple to have a good run of form...

[jpack1]

That was an absolute bomb

[msstate7]

Last 11 winkler appearances...
10.0 ip 14 h 9 er 4 bb 11 k

His high leverage days may be behind him

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[sturg33]

Dansby sure can field it though

[nsacpi]

need Folty to be our stopper tomorrow

[Julio3000]

"Dansby sucks" is not the construction I'd go with. Let's fully appreciate that he's playing great D AND the fact that he's got a sub-.700 career OPS. Just cause he looks like he should be better doesn't mean we should buy in if he doesn't produce between the lines.

I mean, after a couple weeks in April, this season is him going 2-18 with 5 Ks, then having a multi-hit game to the chorus of "bae has it going now," followed by another 2-18. That just seems to be who he is. Fewer walks than you'd expect from a dude who seems to have decent strikes zone judgement. More Ks than a guy with his limited pop can sustain. If he weren't a 1/1 playing great defense we'd be collectively calling for an upgrade. Hell, right now we're talking about replacing a piece, in Camargo, who's been significantly better for 2 seasons.

[jpack1]

Braves offense is going to continue to scuffle until Freddie gets it going again.

[msstate7]

Dansby sure can field it though

Which is what we need in an 8-hole SS. What we really need is FF to snap out of it. Since June 8th (not tonight), FF is .205/.295/.410 (88 PA) with k rate at 27.3.

[nsacpi]

"Dansby sucks" is not the construction I'd go with. Let's fully appreciate that he's playing great D AND the fact that he's got a sub-.700 career OPS. Just cause he looks like he should be better doesn't mean we should buy in if he doesn't produce between the lines.

I mean, after a couple weeks in April, this season is him going 2-18 with 5 Ks, then having a multi-hit game to the chorus of "bae has it going now," followed by another 2-18. That just seems to be who he is. Fewer walks than you'd expect from a dude who seems to have decent strikes zone judgement. More Ks than a guy with his limited pop can sustain. If he weren't a 1/1 playing great defense we'd be collectively calling for an upgrade. Hell, right now we're talking about replacing a piece, in Camargo, who's been significantly better for 2 seasons.

a lefty hitting infielder would allow us to get the best out of Camargo and Swanson

[TheBravos]

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This is what is scary about relievers. They can fall as fast as they rise.

I hope this isn’t arm trouble for Winkler. He was so nasty for while...where did that go??

[sturg33]

Which is what we need in an 8-hole SS. What we really need is FF to snap out of it. Since June 8th (not tonight), FF is .205/.295/.410 (88 PA) with k rate at 27.3.

Dansby needs to hit better than he has the last two seasons to justify a starting spot on a playoff team. Especially when arbitration kicks in

[jpack1]

"Dansby sucks" is not the construction I'd go with. Let's fully appreciate that he's playing great D AND the fact that he's got a sub-.700 career OPS. Just cause he looks like he should be better doesn't mean we should buy in if he doesn't produce between the lines.

I mean, after a couple weeks in April, this season is him going 2-18 with 5 Ks, then having a multi-hit game to the chorus of "bae has it going now," followed by another 2-18. That just seems to be who he is. Fewer walks than you'd expect from a dude who seems to have decent strikes zone judgement. More Ks than a guy with his limited pop can sustain. If he weren't a 1/1 playing great defense we'd be collectively calling for an upgrade. Hell, right now we're talking about replacing a piece, in Camargo, who's been significantly better for 2 seasons.

Pretty much everything agrees Bae can play D. Which ironically is what some thought in his minor league career was the question mark. But he’s been pathetic with the bat. Just pathetic for a year and a half now.

I’m pulling hard for the guy. He plays hard as hell. Runs hard, takes extra bases, has surprising power, he’s potentially a very exciting player if he could hit at all.

[sturg33]

a lefty hitting infielder would allow us to get the best out of Camargo and Swanson

I could get behind getting a solid lefty 3B, playing Ozzie at SS and Camargo at 2b against righties, and using Dansby against lefties and late-inning defense

[USMA76]

I could get behind getting a solid lefty 3B, playing Ozzie at SS and Camargo at 2b against righties, and using Dansby against lefties and late-inning defense

Isn't putting Camargo's arm at 2B sub optimal especially since most pitchers are RH? Not arguing, just asking.