Sherman: Braves offered Heyward 80M after 2013

[thethe]

Its pretty clear that everyone could be telling the truth here. They could have offered him the contract in the short discussion after the 2013 season and then never revisited after the 2 yr deal was signed.

But if the Braves offered Heyward an extension at the end of 2013 as reported by a non-Braves reporter then wouldn't that make what Heyward said in the offseason dishonest?

[thethe]

Since when did Sherman's track record become so good that we take what he says as the gospel? It seems to me that some here are fishing to call Heyward a liar.

Since when was his record so poor that we could completely dismiss something he reports?

[gilesfan]

I can't figure who is more stuck on Heyward, the people that wanted him here or the people that wanted him gone. That was just one of many deals that showed the Braves wanted to clean house.

[Braves1976]

Since when was his record so poor that we could completely dismiss something he reports?

He has a pretty mixed track record at best IMO.

[gilesfan]

But if the Braves offered Heyward an extension at the end of 2013 as reported by a non-Braves reporter then wouldn't that make what Heyward said in the offseason dishonest?

no

[Heyward]

'Til there's attribution to what Sherman wrote, I'm not going to give it any credence. Heyward is on the record with what he said.

So you believe Heyward more than an insider with credible sources?

[Heyward]

I can't figure who is more stuck on Heyward, the people that wanted him here or the people that wanted him gone. That was just one of many deals that showed the Braves wanted to clean house.

I wanted to keep him long-term but if he wouldnt re-sign, they had to deal with him.

But you'd think we traded a top 10 player in baseball the way some on here defend him.

[chop2chip]

I can't figure who is more stuck on Heyward, the people that wanted him here or the people that wanted him gone. That was just one of many deals that showed the Braves wanted to clean house.

There's definitely unnecessary resentment on both sides.

[thethe]

I can't figure who is more stuck on Heyward, the people that wanted him here or the people that wanted him gone. That was just one of many deals that showed the Braves wanted to clean house.

Honestly, my angle has little to do with Heyward and more on the way the front office was ridiculed in the offseason like they were a bunch of senile morons. I'd love it if Heyward came back in the offseason. I still remember the goosebumps when he hit that homerun off of Carlos Zambrano opening day.

I don't see many posters that irrationally hate Heyward at least in comparison to the crap that was said about JS and Hart .

[Braves1976]

The poster that goes by the username Heyward needs some new lines, he's done to death the same ones for far too long. Maybe someone that likes him can help him out. :)

[gilesfan]

So you believe Heyward more than an insider with credible sources?

Do you believe the person that would be involved in the discussion or someone that would not?

I simply can't believe some of the things your actually type.

[Braves1976]

Do you believe the person that would be involved in the discussion or someone that would not?

I simply can't believe some of the things your actually type.

Hopefully for his sake he's not actually thinking before he types out such nonsense. :)

[Heyward]

Do you believe the person that would be involved in the discussion or someone that would not?

I simply can't believe some of the things your actually type.

So Heyward wouldnt lie?

[Heyward]

Do you believe the person that would be involved in the discussion or someone that would not?

I simply can't believe some of the things your actually type.

I type some dumb things, thats obvious but i dont believe this FO or Wren never approached him about an extension.

They arent that dumb.

[gilesfan]

So Heyward wouldnt lie?

What incentive does he have to lie?

[gilesfan]

I type some dumb things, thats obvious but i dont believe this FO or Wren never approached him about an extension.

They arent that dumb.

According to you Heyward isn't worth the money he is going to get. So are they dumb or not?

[Heyward]

According to you Heyward isn't worth the money he is going to get. So are they dumb or not?

Just because i dont think hes worth 150-200 mil doesnt mean that.

A lot of the baseball world values WAR and saber-metrics which values Heyward than he should be.

[Julio3000]

So you believe Heyward more than an insider with credible sources?

It's not about whether or not I believe Sherman. He's no more or less believable to me than anyone in the business, as far as I know. It's that he's using an anonymous source. This isn't an issue of national security (or something genuinely important, like, you know, Bryce Harper or the Yankees). It's baseball chatter. Attribution or I don't give a ****.

[dak]

What I posted earlier was a quotation from Heyward stating they hadn't discussed a contract extension since the end of 2012 which seems to contradict what Sherman is reporting now.

Gotcha, I missed your earlier post but see it now. That's the article I remembered, but just had it in my head for some reason that is was 2013 offseason since that's when the other extensions were. I thought DOB and Bowman had also reported that the Braves discussed extension w/ Heyward after the 2013 season, but don't have time at the moment to look into this.

So I suppose anything is possible (Sherman source is wrong, Heyward misquoted / misspoke, Heyward purposely lied, etc.). If Heyward was indeed offered an extension after 2013 for $80m, it would seem to further his public relations case to say so (since it was a lowish offer), so the whole things seems odd. At any rate, I don't really have a dog in this fight. Heyward was my favorite Brave, but I thought they were smart to trade him when they did. Felt the same way about Prado.

[jpx7]

I just didn't care for the hatred directed towards the front office especially those that said they were snake in the grass liars.

I will always root for Heyward to succeed. I just wish posters were accountable for things they have said in the past that were clearly wrong.