I personally believe Biden is the best candidate the democrats could run right now and the greatest threat to the republicans. He is actually a very likeable guy and comes across as being competent. His biggest risk is that he's tied to current issues. If the economy collapses he is done Carter style. His second biggest risk is that he's Trump light. He's not as good as Trump from an articulation perspective, but he's got a Trump like filter, but not as bad.
thank you weso1!
Originally Posted by weso1
I don't discount him - just despise him.
CrimsonCowboy (08-29-2015)
There's definitely a disturbing trend here.
He's also a moran
BedellBrave (09-05-2015)
Nt
It's a trend, but I'm too busy being amused by it to be disturbed.
"For all his tattooings he was on the whole a clean, comely looking cannibal."
I think he's got a hair sniffing fetish.
"Uncle Joe: A Democrat Republicans Can Believe In
There’s no way Joe Biden becomes the Democratic nominee, and P.J. O’Rourke has mixed feelings about that.
Joe, the Democrats don’t like you. That’s fine by me. I’m a Republican. I don’t like you either. But, to quote the universally acknowledged definitive study of practical politics, which starred Marlon Brando, “It’s not personal… It’s strictly business.”
Personally, I think you’re a great guy. But I’m scared that you, a Democrat, could get elected—by a wide electoral and popular vote margin.
So, Joe, you and I understand each other. What I don’t understand is your fellow Democrats. I’ve seen what they’ve been saying about you in the mainstream media…
Let me pause for a moment in writing this well-informed and insightful analysis and clear something up for readers.
Political pundits like myself speak a different language, “Punditese.” When a conservative political pundit says “mainstream media,” that’s Punditese for “ass-kissing pink-o milksops.” (The clever type of conservative political pundits sometimes alter the phrase to “lamestream media.”)
Likewise, when a liberal political pundit says “right-wing-fringe talk radio,” that’s Punditese for “clear-eyed, sober assessment of the facts.”
As I was saying, Joe, it doesn’t look good. You’d think you were a Republican, the way our liberal pals in politics and the press are letting you have it..."
O'Rourke makes me chuckle. Link
"...Joe, you’re a stand-up guy. It’s not like you believe in the same things as Edmund Burke. But Richard the Lionheart didn’t believe in the same things as Saladin, and they were both stand-up guys. Your Democratic opponents are a couple of worthless little “sits.” One was the baby sitter for two juvenile presidents and the other is an Occupy Wall Street protestor unaccountably holding his sit-in in Vermont.
And, Joe, you’ve borne more personal sorrow than all the other presidential candidates, Democratic or Republican, combined. Borne it manfully.
Indeed, you’ve known more grief than all the other presidential candidates combined will give to the poor electorate over the next 15 months. Which is a lot. And we Americans would be a happier people if you were in the race, even we Republican-Americans.
But you’re not going to be.
The Big Donkeys want you kicked out of the Democrat candidate stable. They say you’re “too prone to gaffes.”
Here are a few of your “gaffes” from a Time magazine feature, “Top 10 Joe Biden Gaffs.”
You said about Obamacare on live TV, “This is a big f______ deal.”
You told the House Democratic Caucus, “If we do everything right, if we do it with absolute certainty, there’s still a 30 percent chance we’re going to get it wrong.”
And when you were running against Obama for the 2008 nomination you described him as a “mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy.” And said of his candidacy, “I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”
Punditese doesn’t have a word for “truth.” And it’s hard to explain, in English, the meaning of “gaffe.” The closest I can come is “saying the thing that is so.”
But that’s not the real problem, Joe. The real problem is you’re an old, white European male. The Democrats are determined to elect “the first (fill in the blank) American president.”
They’ve checked off No. 1 (African-American) and are determined to go down the list in order of historical victimhood.
Democrats are liberals and—to their profound embarrassment—liberalism is a philosophy rooted in the thinking of old, white European males.
Liberalism is based upon the philosophical inquiries of John Locke, Jean-Jacques Rousseau, Thomas Paine and—oh, the shame of it—slave-owning, woman-exploiting Thomas Jefferson. America’s first great liberal populist was Andrew Jackson, perpetrator of the Tail of Tears and annihilator of the Second Bank of the United States—and hence of centralized economic control.
Plus liberalism is painfully un-hip. Say Great Society to today’s with-it young Democratic voters and they assume you’re being fashionably ironic and hear air quotes around the “Great.” Say New Deal and they think you’re talking about the Texas Hold‘em they play on their smartphones.
Joe, you’re the Democrats’ best choice not just because you’re a decent, intelligent and experienced man who is, by all accounts, cooperative with your political allies, respectful of your political opponents and considerate to your staff.
You’re the Democrats’ best choice because you’re so far ahead of every other candidate, from either party, in the “Road Trip Poll.”
“With which presidential candidate would you rather go on a road trip?”
In the 17 presidential elections since 1948, the Road Trip Poll has had an accuracy rate of 88.2% (with a 5.9% plus or minus margin of error).
Salty, poker-playing Harry Truman beginning each day with a shot of Old Grand-Dad or Thomas E. “little man on the wedding cake” Dewey?
Jolly golfer Ike or po-face Adlai Stevenson?
Charming, charismatic JFK or—no adjectives needed—Nixon?
Bullroaring longhorn LBJ or Barry “Nuke ‘Em” Goldwater?
Tricky Dick (at least he was a drinking man) or the sanctimonious RFK fill-in Hubert “Hump” Humphrey?
George McGovern or Trick? Tough one. Dick, I guess. McG’s VP pick Thomas Eagleton was a veteran of McGovern road trips and had to have electro-shock therapy.
Carter or Ford? Okay, we were wrong.
Happy-go-lucky Ron or Persimmon-Puss Jimmy?
Reagan or whoever that stiff was?
George H. W. Bush or “I have to go take a Dukakis”? (A word-for-word off-the-record quote from Bush 41 obtained on deep background.)
George Bush or Bill Clinton? “Toga! Toga!” to quote Bill’s Washington colleague, Sen. John Blutarski.
The guy in the Viagra ads or the guy getting his food laced with saltpeter by Hillary?
Al Gore—nickname “Albert”—or the frat boy from Yale’s DKE Animal House?
W. or Kerry, who’d be ordering Chateauneuf-du-pape (’90) at the Billy Goat Tavern in Chicago, wondering where the Ritz Carlton was located in Tucumcari, New Mexico, and worrying about getting stone chips on his BMW 7 Series?
Obama or McCain? Alright we were wrong again.
Obama or a Mormon wearing special underpants that, according to LDS church literature, provide “protection against temptation and evil”?
However, all that said, far be it from me to tell the Democrats how to avoid losing the presidency—and the Senate and the House—in 2016.
It’s the Democratic Party’s political funeral. And I’ll gladly decorate the grave, soon as I’ve had a six-pack of beer."
I know Hawk scolds me for quoting (or reading for that matter ) Daily Kos. But, this was too rich to pass up !!!
" If Donald Trump does, due to some unforeseen circumstances possibly involving space aliens irradiating the planet with an unstoppable stupid ray, somehow become president, I believe this would make him the first of America's presidents to own and operate his own beauty pageant. "
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/0...uins-the-brand
I mean that's essentially what most political elections are these days. Beauty pageants.
your republican leading presidential hopeful:
"For there is always light, if only we are brave enough to see it. If only we are brave enough to be it." Amanda Gorman
"When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross"
That depends on an electorate. Doesn't it ?
Would you consider Bernie Sanders a "beauty pageant" contestant ?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-go...b_8121026.html
If so - you might be the problem
I didn't consider Obama a Beauty Pagaent contestant.
Were you of those that elected Bush because you thought you might like to have a beer with him. Or, got a little chill when he landed on the aircraft carrier?
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Did you watch the last (R) debate? That, was a beauty pageant.
10 contestants paraded in front of you with a runner up phase.
Last edited by 57Brave; 09-11-2015 at 03:37 PM.
I think you missed it again. Not all that surprising. No Bernie is a rarity in politics. But the whole election itself is a beauty pageant. That doesn't change if you have an occasional fat girl in it. Or unfiltered candidate if you will.
And Obama was as smooth talking as it got in 2008. I don't vote based on who I would drink with.
Each day passes I'm convinced Trump is trolling the GOP. Every big named establishment guy is doing all they can to discredit Trump but not Carson (maybe they see him as a running mate)
The more fringe outlandish things Trump says, the more of the base he riles up and gets excited, the more the other GOP candidates have to move right to try and get that share of the vote.
The best part? If I recall, the Republican Party has made it so only Registered Republicans can vote, lSo independents can't bail them out by giving support to Jeb or Rubio, if Trump really really holds the base up until Iowa and New Hampshire, he may sweep the GOP primaries in the South (Carson is black, Rubio is hispanic, and Jeb is married to a hispanic and is pro-immigration reform).
You have the bottom feeders acting as attack dogs on Trump (Christie, Jindal, Walker, Perry) to try and position themselves for one of the non-Trump top dogs to maybe pick them as a Veep.
Forever Fredi
Trump isn't the candidate we need, but he is the candidate we deserve. I am really at the point where I will vote for a joke candidate like Trump or Kanye simply out of spite for how bad our political system is. What I really want to see is millions of people writing in "none of the above" out of protest for how bad our choices are.
There are no words for how much I want Kanye to be president. Maybe they might have the balls to take on police unions and the criminalization of the average American citizen.
"Donald Trump will serve a second term as president of the United States.
It’s over."
Little Thethe Nov 19, 2020.
You guys' thoughts on this perspective? It also goes along with the posts lately about helping Syrian refugees.
Yeah but when conservatives don't like him they don't ha e the "they just hate him because he is black" or the "they just don't like her because she is a woman" meme that was going to be used for Hillary. Not liking Biden because he is an old rich white guy doesn't really resonate with the base.
"Donald Trump will serve a second term as president of the United States.
It’s over."
Little Thethe Nov 19, 2020.
Umm excuse me but Biden is a SERIOUSLY CREEPY old rich white guy who doesn't resonate with the base.
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