If we deal Justin, shouldn't we get players who are good?Originally Posted by blueagleace1
If we deal Justin, shouldn't we get players who are good?
Wut?
Profar isn't good? I mean he's young but he could be the best player int he game he's that talented.
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Huh???
You're talking about one of the games most talented prospects in Profar who would play 2B until Peraza is ready (would also allow you not to rush Jose) then shift over to 3B or LF when Peraza arrives, your CF of the future (unless BJ is moved this offseason) Martin would/could play RF now since he has the arm and would leadoff (stole 36 bases in 2013 and 31 this year) until Peraza is ready all while playing Gold Glove caliber defense in CF, and then another potential #2/#3 starter in Gonzalez.
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Profar is a good bet to be an average to above average player. Absolutely nothing about him other than age says star player. Reminds me a lot of Andy Marte.
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Respectfully disagree with you on Profar.
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emk418 (11-27-2014)
Hyperbole much? Look at the numbers. There's really not much there to support your statement.
I don't know much about Gonzalez. Martin might be a good get, but he's really nothing special. Profar hasn't hit much, has he? I don't know, just underwhelmed.
Wow. I can guarantee you Hart would make that trade in a heartbeat. Anyone who complains about that package is delusional. Too bad the rangers would not make that trade. I do really like a package around Profar.
I love Profars potential, reminds me of a much more disciplined Soriano at the plate, lightening quick bat through the zone.
And more importantly we could have a dynamic player and move him to 3rd and with Peraza at second to go along with Simmons and Freeman we'd have a great young controllable dynamic infield going in to the stadium and for years to come.
JohnAdcox (11-27-2014)
18 year old with an .883 OPS in A Ball, 19 year old with an .820 OPS in AA, and .807 OPS in AAA at 20. Showing good power all through the minors and good walking skills. Odds are his power based on his MLB numbers so far will improve by a healthy amount, he'll also see some boosts to his average, his OBP and tat will likely lead to a boost in average.
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Exactly. I like that package a lot but I think y'all are going to be disappointed if you think we're going to get that much (or better) back. I could see them trading us Profar and Gonzalez for Justin but we won't get all three. Plus Texas will probably keep Martin for centerfield so he's the least likely to be traded among that package.
Never hit .300 nor slugged .500. OPS declines significantly at every level, then a huge decline at the ML level. Looked remarkably average at the ML level in '13, OPS mid .600. Didn't play at all in '14.
You're counting on improvement because you like this player. Perhaps there are signs, but he hasn't done much yet.
cajunrevenge (11-27-2014)
It sounds like the M's are going to get one of Gattis, JUp, Kemp, Cruz or Cespedes. If Hart is going to make a move, now is the time to make it after Tomas signed.
I would like to see a move made to bring Kemp to Atlanta, depending on cost.
Last edited by Enscheff; 11-27-2014 at 02:39 PM.
"Depending on cost" indeed!
Matt Kemp cf
8 years/$160M (2012-19)
signed extension with LA Dodgers 11/18/11 (avoided arbitration)
15:$21M, 16-19:$21.5M annually
at signing, largest-ever deal for National League player and tied for seventh-largest ever
The Braves need middle of the order corner OFers, and Kemp is most certainly that. If Hart can get him plus a few million a year for Minor, I think that's a trade he needs to make. A middle of the order with Kemp and Freeman would be a pretty good start to building the 2017 team.
My best-case scenario has them Keeping Upton for at least this year and getting a Kemp. MMM.
I could even live with Gattis in left. How many homers could that outfield hit?
I'd set the over/under at about 75, but the OF defense would be abysmal.
Might be fun watching 10-8 games again. Maybe we should try to get ground ball pitchers?
Who cares?
The kid has been in pro ball for FIVE years -only played in FOUR of those years (didn't play this past year)- how can we judge anyone based on statistics in only FOUR years of pro ball (minors and majors)????
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